Anyone heard of Eleanor Clift?

[politicasista]

Doesn't she write for Newsweek or Time Magazine?

Hope no one's blood pressure rises, but she was on Faux's Insanity and Colmes tonight totally dissing Kerry. When asked if she voted for him, she said yes, but she doesn't think Kerry is the right person for 2008, putting her in Hillary's camp. Colmes wasn't impressed I heard.

The rest of the recap is at kerrygoddess' forum.

With this and that ugly e-mail, the knives are definitely out for Kerry for both sides of the aisle. It's scary. :scared: :grr:

[saracat]

1. Former Clinton girlfriend , so rumoured. She is the one that

pushed Monica over the edge she was so jealous of her.

[politicasista]

2. OMG!

What a petty-laden woman!

[saracat]

8. Well what I meant was that Monica was jealous of Elenor. I don't know that

Eleanor ever did anything to Monica. I just meant Monica was so jealous of Clinton meeting with Eleanor that it drove her to do stupid things like turn in the blue dress! Thee one that was petty, AND dysfunctional IMHO was Monica.

[karynnj]

13. Wow! I never heard this

(Though why she would chase Clinton in the 90s when there was a far more attractive single Senator in the early 90s, is beyond me.)
Years ago, I liked her on McLaughlin group - where I agreed with her more than others. I had simply thought the dislike of Kerry might just come from Newsweek - where there seem to be lots of liberals who really have tried to stab him in the back for years.

She clearly is completely excited about Hillary - I think she was in 2004 as well.

[Dr Ron]

3. She writes for Newsweek

Writing for Newsweek is probably her main job, but she does get around. I don't know if she still is, but years back when I used to watch the McGlaughlin Group she was the token liberal on the show.

[politicasista]

4. She is clearly after Kerry in favor of Hillary.

[Dr Ron]

5. So what? Nobody supports Kerry

Just like in 2004 when nobody supported Kerry, and we saw how that turned out.

[politicasista]

6. True, Ron.

but as I said with her and that ugly e-mail, the knives are out to get Kerry.

[ProSense]

10. I'm really starting to think

That all these Huffington and far left types are just as worried about a shake up of the corporate structure as the Republicans. What the hell is there problem anyway. They seem more interested in hamstringing Kerry than they are in holding Bush accountable. And let's not forget the Republican Party is still out their pining to retain power in 2006. The Democrat haters seem to be jockeying for power with the Democrats, aren't in any position to actual do chit but make noise, and rarely spend their energies pointing the finger at the Republicans. Maybe someone should begin looking at their purse strings.

[MH1]

11. I think you have something there.

Worth taking a look at.

[ProSense]

9. Everyone's echoing the noisiest bunch.

They make no sense and are just posturing for position and the pundits are trying to appear in tune. The ridiculous assertions they make and attributes they have attached to candidates literally being pulling out of thin air is amazing. Between the polls, the issues, the scandals, the time frame, if people actually looked at some of the stuff they're stringing together, they see a useless pile of what ifs.

[karynnj]

14. Also, for 1 year after the election, I think Kerry is as well positioned

as is possible. He has been a center of calm, dignity and doing the right thing all year - even with no fanfare or favorable media. The media is intent on setting up Hillary/McCain which could be a very flamboyant interesting race. With Elenor Cleft, it might just be the excitement of a historic first woman President story.

I don't get what makes Hillary such a star candidate - until Bill was caught with Monica, she was not well liked as first lady. I am biased, but seeing her speak at the LIHEAP press conference, the Rosa Parks memorial and the RFK memorial, (all coincidently immediately before Kerry) - seeing more of her will remind people that they didn't like her. The odd thing is that I think Kerry needs more people to really see him, while Hillary benefits by being seen less and spoken of as the inevitable choice.

Her health care imitative was a failure - possibly because she had few skills working with others. She and Corzine became Senators at the same time - what has Hillary done as Senator. (Corzine wrote much of Sarbanes/Oxley to prevent some Enron type abuses.)

[ProSense]

7. The McGlaughlin Group used to be staple watching.

She was very liberal. Sometimes she'd even win the point, that is to say, stick with the debate and not let the facts get drowned out by the rambunctious Repthugs.

[Mass]

12. She adored Dean in 2003 and said the same nasty things about Kerry.

IMHO the worst of the McLaughin Group, very poorly articulated and generally very counterproductive. She is the token liberal in the show.

She can spew after Kerry as much as she wants. She is totally non representative of the majority of Americans or of real people out there (no more than DU or kos are).

[wisteria]

15. Yeah, I have read her. She references KOS a lot.

She writes on line at MSNBC. I don't respect her at all. She doesn't check her facts and seems to put a finger to the wind when commenting.

[beachmom]

16. Like the others said, she writes for Newsweek and is on McLaghlin Group

I think you can like people in some circumstances and not in others. She is good on McLaughlin because she is willing to scream to be heard to counteract the B.S. from Tony Blankly and Mortimer Zuckerman (U.S. News). In that context, I'm okay with her.

Newsweek is quite another story. Remember that Election 2004 hit piece by Newsweek (although there were definitely some catnippy moments within the nonstop snarks)? Well, there was a follow up to it, when they visited Kerry in his Beacon Hill home. It said that Clift was present. I thought the follow up was highly unfavorable, and realized that as a liberal she would be no friend of ours.

In regards to Huff Post, Kos, and the rest, I have to say that there is a term Rush Limbaugh uses that I agree with (embarrassing as this is to admit): Merlot Democrats. A lot of the anti-war Left types (I'm talking about the ones who spew hatred toward Dems and especially Kerry) live comfortable lives, but are angry at the * doctrine of pre-emptive war. But in the end, these people do benefit from corporate America and don't really want the status quo to be messed with. Kerry, of course, does not play that game, even when he is called a "DLC Democrat". In fact, he is not, as his voting record shows. So they hate him: he is centrist in foreign policy where they're radical left but he is more liberal when it comes to helping workers where they're in favor of continuing business as usual. Maybe I'm stereotyping but I just think these people don't have much of an ideology, except being against the Iraq War. They're not really Democrats, but anti-Repubicans. BIG DIFFERENCE, in my view.

[karynnj]

17. I agree on the description of the radical left as

mostly anti-war and not pro-workers. THe only thing I would add is that they are very liberal on all the social issues, abortion, gay rights etc, where Kerry is personally liberal, but far less radical. Also, many have a problem with Kerry's good manners - describing them as old fashioned.

[TayTay]

18. Remember, 2008 is a wide open race.

There will be all kinds of jockeying for position, while people try to balance the need for unity in Congress in order to make gains in '06. This is going to be a very wild cycle.

Btw, who has Bush mentioned, albeit obliquely, whenever he has been criticizing Senate Democrats. Who has been pushing withdrawal plans and the irritating Amendment asking for the clandestine prisons to be reported on to Congress. The Rethugs may talk about Hillary, but then are actually actively trying to discourage a few Senators from pursuing an agenda of accountability and responsibility in Congress. Ms. Clinton ain't among them. Hmmmmmmmm.

I still think that there are only 6-8 people total in the country who are actually credible candidates for President of the United States. There will be a lot more who will explore the possibility of running, but they won't really go anywhere. Kerry is one of those people who can make a credible run for President. He proved it last time, without a whole lot of support from official Washington. That's good enough for me.