VCR ALERT: JK on CSPAN-3!!

[Noisy Democrat]

CSPAN is re-running JK's Senate floor speech on the eve of Gulf War I. It'll show at 3:27 AM and 8:25 AM Eastern time today. I'm going to TIVO it and can make some copies. You can also watch it on the computer when it's streaming.

[JI7]

1. interesting

will try to catch it. i wish cspan had shown the many clips of him other than Vietnam last year. it would have been nice to see them play his committee hearings when HE was senator.

[karynnj]

2. They did at least once have a show based on excerpts of his Senate

career. He really did look very young at the beginning.

[TayTay]

3. Also this, later on today

Speech
Tommy the Cork: Washington's Insider
Woman's National Democratic Club
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 182500 - 06/29/2004 - 0:50 - $29.95

Monagan, John, U.S. Representative, D, Connecticut
McKean, David, Author

Mr. McKean, Senator John Kerry's chief of staff, talked about his book, Tommy the Cork: Washington's Ultimate Insider from Roosevelt to Reagan, published by Steerforth. In the book, the author examines how Thomas Corcoran became the first powerful Washington lobbyist. Mr. Corcoran began his career as a law clerk for U.S. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. He later worked with Franklin Delano Roosevelt during the New Deal era, and became acquainted with such notable figures as Sam Rayburn, Joseph Kennedy, Evita Peron, Lyndon Johnson, and Ronald Reagan. Mr. Corcoran represented various interests in Washington for nearly forty years.


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How Dems Lobby and are clean, as opposed to some of Them

In 2004, David McKean, a veteran Senate aide, published a critically praised book on Thomas “Tommy the Cork” Corcoran, perhaps the most successful Washington lobbyist of the 20th century. But the Senate ethics committee advised him not to disclose on the dust jacket the name of the senator he worked for, John Kerry, lest he be seen as using his position for commercial gain.

The restriction hampered his ability to promote his book. Indeed, when a Washington bookstore inadvertently identified Mr. McKean’s position in an advertisement, he had to cancel an appearance there. A very small victory, one would guess, for the capital’s reputation.

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Sigh! We follow the rules, they don't.

[ProSense]

5. This is pretty interesting.

I'd love to read this book.

[ProSense]

7. You know what I don't want to hear?

All thes Republican liars talking about lobby reform. Frist? Please! They are going to pretend they weren't familiar with the inner workings of their own party (and the Bush campaign). Give me a break. Rant over.

[ProSense]

4. Thanks for the alert! n/t

[TayTay]

6. Gawd he looks good

And he never gained a damn ounce. And this speech applies even more to this war than to Desert Storm. (Wow! only 47, my age, and just wow! Yum!)

Read to us again, oooooowwwwww, glasses.

[ProSense]

8. Yup!

Fiery! I'm glad they're replaying it.

[whometense]

9. Oh man.

I tried to listen on the computer but the connection kept bugging out, so I didn't hear more than the first five words. Can this be downloaded anywhere? Or can you watch it online?

[TayTay]

10. It's on again tomorrow

But only on C-Span3. For me, that means internet only, cuz Dish Network doesn't have C-Span3. (But I have a lot of channels for home shopping that I never look at, sigh!)

[whometense]

11. Internet only for me too.

I hope it's working better tomorrow. x(

[TayTay]

12. Oh Whome, you should see this

It's so cool to get in the time machine and go back for a tiny bit of time. That was waaaaaaay cool and a wonderful, wonderful speech. The part at the end just gets me.

[ProSense]

14. TayTay

Do you know if there is a transcript of this floating around anywhere?

[TayTay]

16. Not that I could find.

It's not in Thomas at least not that I coud find.

[ProSense]

20. Thanks.

I tried searching there too, but couldn't find it.

[whometense]

15. I really want to.

I got a teaser of a screen shot - but no action. He looked wonderful...

Isn't there a website somewhere where these videos are archived?? I thought I remembered it, but can't seem to find a link anywhere.

[Noisy Democrat]

17. I'll make you a copy

I'm a very slow mail-er but I will get it done, I swear. :) I have the speech on TIVO and I'll run off a copy for you too.

[TayTay]

18. Oooh, I want one too!

That was soooooo ahm, great. (Can you see now why he always had such high votes among women. Sigh!)

[Noisy Democrat]

24. No problem

I'm running off copies as fast as I can -- it's taking up space on my friends' TIVO, but they're mostly cool with that so long as I don't leave it there forever. Right now it looks like I need to make 5 copies, including yours.

If anyone else wants a copy please speak up or forever hold your peace!

[whometense]

19. Oh, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And don't worry - since the speech is - ummm - old news - there's no need to rush at all!

[ProSense]

13. Definitely a speech of beauty.

I didn't get to see the whole thing, but I taped it.

[FreedomAngel82]

21. I saw it!

I turned it on there and saw him at the end. :D He looked so different compared to now. I think he actually looks pretty good now days. :9

[ginnyinWI]

22. why now, I wonder?

Why pull up something from the beginning of Desert Storm? I know it's related to today's occupation of Iraq, but didn't think anyone was focused on that right now.

[karynnj]

23. Unless they are preparing for Kerry comments on the current

situation when he returns. That speech is a very powerful argument against war except as a very last resort.

[TayTay]

26. They were doing a historical retrospective on Desert Storm

They had the speakers lined up that were pro-war back then and made the case for the first Pres. Bush's actions after the invasion of Kuwait by Saddam Hussein in Aug of '90. They needed an alternative voice that made the case against going to war. Kerry's speech was very powerful and garnered a lot of attention at the time.

[globalvillage]

25. Is this it? This is from tomorrow night's schedule.

11:27 PM EST
0:37 (est.)
Senate Proceeding
Senate Session
U.S. Senate
John F. Kerry , D-MA


03:27 AM EST
0:37 (est.)
Senate Proceeding
Senate Session
U.S. Senate
John F. Kerry , D-MA

[ProSense]

27. deleted starting new thread

[globalvillage]

28. This replays tonight.

11:27 EST

[ProSense]

29. I have now watched this four times since yesterday.

This is a brilliant speech, it nails everything that's wrong with the current Bush administration, from the rush to war to overreaching powers.

I know I'll watch it again, besides Kerry is so damn cute. :loveya:

[TayTay]

30. Well, in his next election after this speech

he got 80% of the 18-29 year old women's vote. Gee, I wonder why? (This speech was in '91, the next election for him was '96. Mass women are neither stupid nor blind.)

[whometense]

31. I finally got to see it.

Two things: what passion. I got chills.

And, did it strike anyone else how pointedly anti-Bush this speech was? Does anyone think little Georgie, daddy's enforcer, forgot about this speech?

[TayTay]

32. It also points to his consistency

That speech could have been delivered about this Iraq War. The objections and the fear of the consequences of a 'rush to war' were all there then, just as they are now. Wow!

[whometense]

37. Certainly does.

It was absolutely prescient.

[TayTay]

38. Whome, he looked scrumptious

I am so, so shallow.

[whometense]

40. Well, if you are,

then you're not the only one! :evilgrin:

[ProSense]

42. You know this infighting is what's bringing the party down

Oh, sorry, wrong speech. Unity, um...yum!

[wisteria]

33. Apparently, I don't get C-span 3 so I didn't get an opportunity to

watch it. Can it be downloaded from the C-span site?

[jillan]

34. I don't get CSpan 3 either

I would love to see this.

[whometense]

35. I don't get it either -

had to watch online. It was a thing of beauty.

[TayTay]

36. I don't think you can download from C-Span 3

I wish you could. I would love to see this famous speech on the big screen. (Damn, he looked good. Still does. And he was thin as a rail back then. Boy, THK has been good for that man.)

[whometense]

39. No question.

He did not eat well before Teresa came along.

But, man, he sure could talk...:loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

[TayTay]

41. His quoting from the 'Johnny Got his Gun' book just gets me

That was widely quoted around he-yah when it was made. That was a remarkable speech. Just remarkable. There aren't 5 people in the Senate now who could make that speech, not like JK does. Sigh! :loveya: