Check out this thread in GD

[NV Whino]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1163019

More found photographs by an obscure (and excellent) photographer.

[postatomic]

1. Wow! Mother Jones has become a real 'junk' site

Enough phishies and cookies to have a party.
:party:

I've already voiced my feelings on this matter. And the story is constantly changing. It went from bidding on a storage locker to "Auction House" and "Estate Sale". The "found" Ansel Adams large format negatives are also still being debated.

I think John Maloof is an opportunist who would sell his own mother for a buck and the Ansel Adams negatives are not real. I read here that someone said that no one from that time period took the kinds of photos that Adams took. I could post some B&W landscape photos taken from the 1930's that are as good (or better) than what Adams took.

Despite the poor economy antique and vintage photographs are selling well and I think there are people out there who will do anything to cash in on this at the expense of the memories of Maier and Adams.

I'm not directing this angst at you. You're just the messenger. Just expressing my feelings.
:hi:

[Alameda]

2. why so negative? the article is very good and the photographs spectacular

[postatomic]

4. I'm not being negative. Not at all

Yes, the photographs are spectacular. But the "article" conpletely contradicts the original story that John Maloof told. That's factual and is certainly not being negative.

If you think the earth is flat and I tell you that it is not, is that being negative? To you, perhaps.
:shrug:

[NV Whino]

3. My apologies

I must have missed your rant... I mean thread.

[postatomic]

5. I'm tired of pissing matches.

If I can't express my feelings without having it perceived as a "rant" then I guess the lessons I've learned on human communication have failed, or maybe they just don't apply to the internetz where everything is fact and god smite me down if I contradict the internetz. :eyes:

PROVE to me that the article is 100% accurate. PROVE to me that some jerk "found" Ansel Adams negatives at a garage sale 11 years ago.

I've met people like John Maloof. He is an open book. Very easy to understand. He's an opportunist that manipulated his story to best fit his needs. He has openly lied.

[NV Whino]

8. You know what...

I posted this so the photo group could see some wonderful photos. Period.

And, yes, your lessons in communication have failed. You might want to take another course.

[postatomic]

11. Sorry for the delay in responding

Trying to get tons of stuff done before the weekend. If you believe that I am not able to communicate properly can you recommend a good course?

I made it clear that you had nothing to do with my comments. You were just the messenger.

If your objective was to share the photos why didn't you link the actual website? Also; I probably helped your goal more by adding my poorly communicated :eyes: comments. :P

Here:

http://www.vivianmaier.com/

Hope you have a wonderful Memorial weekend.
:hi:

[regnaD kciN]

6. What does Maloof have to do with the Adams story...?

:shrug:

It seems like you're pissed-off over two different matters, and going at everyone indiscriminately.

Are you asserting the Maier photos are all works by someone else? I will grant that there are cases of such an hoax in other fields, most notably the Joyce Hatto affair, but I don't see that there's any reason to believe, absent some proof, that Maier's "body of work" is made up of other people's photographs.

[postatomic]

7. Again. I'm not pissed off. See.... I'm smiling

:D

Both involve people who don't have a clue what they have but do have a clue about how they can profit from it. John Maloof didn't "discover" Vivian Maier. This had already been done. But ol' Johnny Boy lawyered up so he could own the Vivian Maier name. I could go on but I'm done with this issue. Vivian Maier? Never heard of her. John Maloof? Never heard of him.

That's it. Nothing more. I'm not angry. I'm not pissed.
:hi:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. I concur...I think perhaps he just is miffed at Liberal news sites

[ElsewheresDaughter]

10. well would you call the BBC news site "a real junk" site too

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12247395

[postatomic]

12. Hi cupcake

A 'junk site' is one that tries to send nasty little internetz critters to you. When I watch my filters going crazy I call it a 'junk site'. I won't return to that site. Kinda' ironic actually that a publication like MJ has whored itself so badly to the google monster. My comments had nothing to do with the content of the site in general.

I piss blue urine so please try actually reading what was said and try thinking before you prejudge. Not very liberal of ya'.

:smoke:

[Mira]

13. Here is a Communication lesson from the Slang Dictionary:

cupcake
Definition
noun American

1. a cute or attractive woman. A deliberately humorous or (consciously or unconsciously) patronizing male term of endearment. ‘Cupcakes’ are small, usually iced, buns.

2. an eccentric person

Here is the suggested lesson:
The best way to start communicating more effectively is to look stuff up before you use it.

In my experience it's a good way to learn a language since you will learn about double, alternative and finer shadings of meanings especially when using the vernacular or slang.

This will prevent you from ever looking like a rube for it won't let you use inappropriate and disrespectful terms in public. Especially with strangers of the opposite sex.

:)

[postatomic]

14. ......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=280x90271#90465

[Mira]

15. Of all the potential comebacks....this was a very very good one.

Now I have to go study what it means if the genders are reversed.

:thumbsup: to you

[ElsewheresDaughter]

16. Love ya, Mira....Pharaoh has been a personal friend for many years, he is as sweet as a "cupcake"

he has also been a DUer since 2004 and finally started posting his photos in the Photography Group.

:yourock:

[Mira]

18. It just shows how little I know about what is really going on.

I doggedly go by what I see and read, and catch nothing of what underlies it until my periphery expands.

This Gentleman and I sadly got off to a really rocky start.

One thing though enriches my life: You and I will remain sisters forever.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. hmmmm?