ASTB - 12/19 -- Anyone here?

[SharonRB]

[RevCheesehead]

1. Hi, Sharon.

I'm here, but about to go fix dinner.

Good to see you! :hi:

[SharonRB]

2. Hi, Rev

Looks like I'm going to be lonely.

[Botany]

3. I will send in some EDVs for you.

They are hunting bush.

I am willing to bet you that the spying was not only on
"terrorists" but on threats such as John Kerry. In his OH
HQs our computer were hacked into many times ..... we had really
good I.T. people too. The hacks got through up to 6 firewalls.

I read today that Boxer is now looking into impeachment.

[SharonRB]

6. Yes, she is.

She's talking to John Dean and other presidential experts.

I'm sure we're all on a big list somewhere. I can't wait to see tomorrow's story about how they're spying on protesters, etc. It's bad enough when they spy on terrorists -- at least they can try to justify it. When they spy on everyday Amurcans, that's a whole nother kettle of fish.

[Patsy Stone]

24. Since you've protested, you at least have a *chance*

of being on the list. Me, I can only hope somehow the'll find me through the Kerry campaign or just a plain old DUer. :(

[SharonRB]

29. I figure all 80,000+ of us are on it

We need to get you to a protest!

[RevCheesehead]

34. Serves those freepers right...

...if they end up getting investigated because they trolled DU. :evilgrin:

[Patsy Stone]

39. What a nice by-product

that would be. Excellent point!

[Patsy Stone]

37. Yes, but I agree

Let's do it when it's warmer. :)

[Clark2008]

44. I hope they're spying on me and finding out what a smart

little boy I have (who hates Shrub), how loyal I am to Wesley Clark's campaign to point out all Shrub's lies and, most importantly, what a great sex life I have (I bet that makes the fundies stew!).

However, I would also like the shits to know that I'm well-informed of the Fourth Amendment and would sue their asses if they DID spy on me. :)

[Patsy Stone]

4. In and out

but I wanted to tell you guys that I wasn't on that seaplane. :hi:

[SharonRB]

7. I doubted you were, but I'm glad to hear you weren't.

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

10. Only if it took off

from my office. No flying today. I'm stuck here. :)

I'm glad it's Alison. I didn't hear her coverage of the speeches and the spying, because I was on the phone.

Alison: :loveya:

[WolverineDG]

8. thanks for checking in, pats!

:hi: a terrible thing to have happen, but i'm glad you weren't heading for the bahamas today. :hug:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

12. Nope, sadly (gratefully), I had to go in the opposite direction.

A horrible accident. Hi, WDG, how's things?

[WolverineDG]

13. just fine

the house smells like chocolate because i'm making fudge again. :) i've vented about the "surprise, you have jury duty" phone call....

dg

[gkhouston]

101. so, were you making fudge before the phone call

or did you decide you needed a chocolate hit as part of the venting? ;-)

[WolverineDG]

112. during

i was just starting the dissolve stage at that point, so just needed to keep stirring. my mom's recipe is very detailed (heat until 234F--know any candy thermometers THAT exact?), except it says at the end "beat until no longer shiny" but doesn't define "not shiny." :shrug: so, every year, i guess & somehow it comes out all right. :)

dg

[gkhouston]

116. I know what "not shiny" looks like (beat until your elbows give out)

and isn't 234 the soft ball stage? Candy thermometers have a marking for that.

[WolverineDG]

117. not any that i've seen lately.

and i've looked. :(

dg

[gkhouston]

119. well, my Mom's did

then again, Mom still has Tupperware from 1950. :scared:

on edit: I usually use the soft-ball-in-ice-water test. Don't have to worry about where your thermometer's resting in the pan (and it's such a damned nuisance trying to stir around them) and you get a preview of coming attractions. :-)

[WolverineDG]

122. i tried that once

ended up making fudge glass. x( i broke down & got a thermometer.

my mom's thermometer also had the different markings (it was ancient).

dg

[gkhouston]

124. have you tried King Arthur's website

they have a catalog with all sorts of nifty baking things you don't see everywhere... like a springform pan that's 13x9.

on edit: That's King Arthur Flour, not the dude with the sword. Here's the link to the baker's catalog associated with King Arthur:
http://shop.bakerscatalogue.com

And look, here's a candy thermometer that appears to have some markings in addition to the regular temperature notations:
http://shop.bakerscatalogue.com/detail.jsp?id=6274&pv=1135110173159

[WolverineDG]

125. thanks, gk!

i live in an area where there are no fancy kitchen stores. :)

dg

[gkhouston]

126. that's easy on the budget

but hard on you when the Suzy Homemaker fit strikes. :-)

[WolverineDG]

5. sorry, i was busy

making fudge & fuming over a phone call i just got from the federal courthouse. i have to report for jury duty "no later than 7:30 a.m." TOMORROW. THANKS FOR THE ADVANCE NOTICE!! :grr: :nuke:

and they wonder why people hate jury duty?

dg

[SharonRB]

9. You JUST found out tonight?

Or was it one of those deals where you have to call in the evening to see if they need you or not?

[WolverineDG]

11. i've been calling in for weeks now

last message i got was thursday night to call back in on monday after 6. well, they rang ME at 6:30...you know, they could have let people know during business hours. it's not like i sit around all day on my thumbs. i have 3 cases set for tomorrow morning, two of them final hearings, no one to cover for me & no way to call my clients now to tell them their cases will be reset for next year. :nuke:

dg

[Patsy Stone]

14. Wow

That completely sucks. No consideration. That's the government for ya.

[SharonRB]

16. That's unbelievable.

What are you supposed to do with your clients?

[WolverineDG]

18. hope someone tells them in court tomorrow

if i don't get excused soon enough.

dg

[Patsy Stone]

15. She kept the cow...

She has no idea what she's going to do with it, but she knows she's not going to eat it.

:rofl:

[Botany]

17. Snark!

Alison :loveya: Stewart

Burning sex toys and major shrinkage ...... Snark Snark

her outfit tonight :puke:

[Patsy Stone]

19. Very nice to see her back.

I like the idea of the outfit, but I'd change the color of the camisole to something a tad deeper in hue. In fact, it could even be the same color she's wearing, just another tone.

Good shrinkage snark. :thumbsup:

[Botany]

holy God

I switched over to watch * on CSPAN he is nutz!

[Patsy Stone]

25. Stop that!

Was it this morning's gab fest? Oy. Save yourself. Don't do it.

[Botany]

32. I only heard part of it on Steph's show.

I am watching it now ......

FUCKING MADNESS! "I hope people have hopes ........ lots of hopes down there." something about Katrina's
victims.

[SharonRB]

36. That's all I heard, too

Maybe I'll switch over there now. I'm sure I won't miss much for the rest of CD.

[Botany]

42. be strong

it is a visit to the looney bin.

[SharonRB]

43. I know

But I could use a good laugh. Although I'll probably just :puke:.

[Botany]

48. no laughs

he is just nutz

Speeds up slows down licks lips calling male reporters stretch .......

I won't talk it will help the enemy. Guaranteed he used the NSA on Kerry .... he is nervous.

[SharonRB]

50. Yeah, I've got it on now

He just makes me so sick.

I can't believe he's twisted it around to make whoever leaked it at fault. Forget the fact that what he did was illegal. He's just pissed he got caught.

[Botany]

55. action jackson?

when calling on reporter David Jackson :puke:

this is not a Frat House!

[Patsy Stone]

52. Stretch

is David Gregory, I think.

[SharonRB]

53. I'll tell you what's not in the best interests of the country,

you, you, Fucktard. (Not you, Botany.)

[Patsy Stone]

54. Just as I shored myself up to see it

it was over. Now I can see the Dems, who I didn't see. Yay!

[Botany]

59. Complete Sentances!

I really think bush knows that this spying might be fatal to him.

They can get a court order in under 1/2 an hour ..... there is a Judge inside the dept. of justice .... for just such
cases.

[Patsy Stone]

62. Of course they can

He's spying on us to protect us, okay? Just get it through your head. :spank:

http://www1.toastedlemons.com:5001/blogs/uploads/sentences.jpg

ed: pic.

[SharonRB]

64. Great bumper sticker

:rofl:

[Botany]

I bet you that the his spying goes right to J. Kerry

I worked for him in Ohio and our computers were always being hacked ......
we had 6 firewalls.

This is just fascist b.s..

Go Russ Feingold ...... if they want to tap a phone they can and than they have 72 hours to
get to a judge.

[Patsy Stone]

70. Back after dinner, but

I have no doubt. I'm hoping, as I told Sharon, that's how they'll find me. :mad: The Dems are giving me hope.

[gkhouston]

98. better than that -- they can get one RETROACTIVELY

if they do it within the first 24-48 hours. NPR had a great segment on this issue this morning (Tuesday, Morning Edition, I think it was just after 8am Central). And the special court they go to has almost never said no, and if it does, they can quickly go to an appellate court, and from thence to an in camera session of the Supreme Court. There is no way they need to break the FISA law to do the sort of snooping they say they're doing, which leads to the inevitable conclusion that they must be doing some other kind of spying that they know isn't going to fly with a judge.

[SharonRB]

69. A couple of landsmen, Pats

How about an all-Jewish ticket in '08? Yeah, right, like that will ever happen.

[Patsy Stone]

87. I'm plotzing

I just love both of them. :cry: Go, Russ! Go, Carl! Go, "Guy from RI"! :)

[Botany]

58. LOL

i know ... he puts me on edge too.

This AM he got NASA



confused w/ the NSA



"I checked with NASA."

[SharonRB]

56. Oh, good, now a couple of voices of reason

My senator, Carl, and Russ Feingold.

[RevCheesehead]

78. Your senator, and MY senator...

Russ :loveya:

[WolverineDG]

20. interested in a new march on washington

calling for impeachment? check in here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5641098

dg

[SharonRB]

22. I saw it.

No way would I go in the middle of the winter. If they do it in the spring, I'd consider going again. I'll have enough miles to make it a free trip by then, too.

[SharonRB]

26. I liked the April 15 date -- it will be warmer by then in DC.

I see a lot of people liked your idea of January 20. It's perfect, but I won't be going if that's when it winds up being.

[WolverineDG]

61. upside to 1/20

it's close enough to the discovery that they've been spying on us so everyone's still riled up about it.

downside, it's freakin' cold outside!!!!!!!!!!!!! :scared:

dg

[SharonRB]

65. Exactly --

and I've got too many trips coming up within weeks of that date.

[WolverineDG]

80. well if ends up being in april

i know the place to stay! :)

dg

[SharonRB]

88. And where would that be?

[WolverineDG]

94. the courtyard i stayed at. :)

[RevCheesehead]

21. Mmmmm..... 3 Cheese Tortellini.

This is about as close to cannibalism as I get. :9

[Botany]

23. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav EDV

[RevCheesehead]

27. Would you like some?

Pardon my manners, I should have offered right away. :blush:

[Botany]

38. Thanks buddy

I need it I am watching * on CSPAN now .... the man is nuts

connect the dots? Senators from New York, L. A., and Las Vegas ......

Get me a beer buddy?

[Olney Blue]

28. Hi everyone!

:hi:


Been missing you guys- work is CRAZY.

[SharonRB]

31. Hi, Olney

:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

30. Why did you need to burn everything up?

:rofl: Ewww. How bad did all that burning latex smell?

[SharonRB]

33. G-d's money in the first place?

So THAT's where it comes from. Go figure.

[gkhouston]

100. couldn't she have just switched over to religious sex toys

New... the Shepherd's Crook Vibrator... guaranteed to send your G spot straight to heaven. With this handy accessory at your bedside, you shall not want. (Also available as part of the special S&M "thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me" package.)

Excuse me, I'll step outside now and wait for the lightning bolt...

[RevCheesehead]

102. *furiously scribbling notes*

Can you tell me where to find one of these?






:rofl:

[gkhouston]

104. which size would you like?

:evilgrin:

[RevCheesehead]

105. Oh, I'm not a size queen.

Whatever Santa deems best is fine by me! :bounce:

[gkhouston]

107. well, since he knows if you've been good or bad

presumably he knows who you've been bad with, and will therefore know how to make a good fit. ;-)

[RevCheesehead]

108. Could be.

But I think I'd prefer the real thing person.

[gkhouston]

121. Well, duh.

(although things with batteries have fewer neuroses... unless you're Marvin from Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.)

[RevCheesehead]

123. Aw, he don't need no batteries.

Just lots of lovin'... :loveya:

[Clark2008]

35. Why did this woman burn that stuff?

So she could get free publicity for doing it. Best $6500 in public relations she ever spent. Duh.

:hi: all.

Ramzey's sick, so I'm not here long. Sad to be sick on Christmas vacation, but at least I'm on vacation, too, and had no problem staying up all night long with him (could nap with him today, as well).

I see that Keith is also on vacation - which sucks - especially with all the news.

[SharonRB]

40. Hi, Clark!

:hi:

Tell Ramzey I hope he feels better soon.

[Olney Blue]

47. I hate this Tom and Katie crap.

They bore me!

[Patsy Stone]

49. They bore everyone.

But here's a little Keith. Telling us he gets "agita" from them. :)

[Olney Blue]

57. Patsy, I really need a "refreshment" tonight!

What cha got?

[Patsy Stone]

60. Sounds like you need a

Long Island Iced Tea?



That and Carl Levin tellin' it like it is on C-SPAN should do you fine. :hi:

[Olney Blue]

63. Perfect!

:beer:

I feel better already!

:hi:

I admire Carl Levin more and more everyday!

[SharonRB]

66. I'm so glad he's my senator.

[Olney Blue]

72. My two senators are Mikulski and Sarbanes-

quiet, effective Dem workhorses.

So, I can't complain.

[SharonRB]

73. No, you really can't.

They're okay.

[Patsy Stone]

67. He's great.

Sharon's lucky. I have sucky Senators. Bill Nelson, a Democrat, but you don't always know it; and Mel Martinez, conservative fuckwad.

Glad it helped!

ed: punct.

[SharonRB]

71. I'm glad I've got Carl and Debby

I hope she can keep her seat next year and I hope Carl doesn't retire too soon.

[RevCheesehead]

41. Awww....

"feel better, little trooper." :patriot:

Excellent point. There may have been some altruistic motives, but why did she agree to go on camera?

[gkhouston]

99. I was wondering what kind of porn she was selling

if she was truly concerned about people buying her stuff and then going out and molesting kids. We're supposed to think that she used to sell kiddie porn and then she found Jesus and saw the error of her ways? Or are we supposed to infer that any kind of porn makes you want to "do" kids? And I guess Christians don't do horny? :shrug:

[RevCheesehead]

103. Horny Christians?

Ummm.... I think I need to plead the 5th here. :blush:

[gkhouston]

106. just because have a collection of

faux hollowed-out bibles to carry around your "tools of the trade" for special "pastoral visits"? I understand some of your clientele adamantly refuse to give up the King James version. :rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

111. Not only that, I happen to own this:

Last Supper Longbox
The original Last Supper is unquestionably one of the greatest paintings of all time, but who hasn't looked at it and said, "Eh, I could do better than that." That's where the Paint-by-Numbers Last Supper Longbox comes in. This 11-1/4" x 5" x 2-1/4" metal longbox gives you the power and glory of Jesus' last meal mixed with the blurry kitsch of homemade art. With metal fixtures and a black plastic handle. Each bagged.

Last Supper Longbox
item 11073
$7.95 ea.

[gkhouston]

118. heh. Did you see that advertised in The Door?

I remember the Last Supper Clock, where a different Apostle announced each hour, but this lunchbox is new to me.

[RevCheesehead]

120. Archie McPhee.

My source for everything Jesus-kitsch:
http://www.mcphee.com/index.html

Oooh, now I want a Disciple Clock, too!!

[Olney Blue]

45. Keith was wonderful last night covering the chimp.

He deserves a break today!

[Patsy Stone]

46. Hey, Clark

Get Well Soon to Ramzey! :hug:

I liked Alison's snark back when she teased the story. "A woman gave up porn for JAY-zus." :)

[RevCheesehead]

51. If this is what the rest of the week is going to be like...

(fluffy crap), you probably won't be seeing much of me. After all, 'Tis the Busy Season. :)

[Berry Cool]

68. You won't see much of me, either.

I'm glad I watched what little of him was on the show tonight, but it's very easy for all of you to excuse him tonight for doing such a wonderful job last night, when you actually SAW him last night--and I didn't.

Me, I just have to tell myself the man deserves to Christmas shop, and he'll be on the radio anyway. *sigh*

Bush...I can't even talk about him. He's too infuriating.

[RevCheesehead]

75. Berry -

Just remember, he's buying something for his mom. And he probably wants to spend a little time with her, too.

Can't begrudge him that, can you?

There will be more Keith, I promise. :hug:

[Olney Blue]

79. Hi Berry!

:hi:

Yes, he brings out the infuriation gene in all of us!

[Botany]

74. but we need the Rev ......

for our holiday blessings

[RevCheesehead]

77. OK...

"May the God or Goddess of your choice be with you, and bless you during this holiday season. Or not."

Happy now? :hi:

[Botany]

84. yes

[Patsy Stone]

91. Aw, Bot...

:cry: That was beautiful.

[Botany]

92. sure was

I am one sweet little s.o.b.




eat up! Night

[SharonRB]

76. Looks like Conyers is making some kind of big announcement

On Stephie's show tomorrow, during the third hour.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2323220

[Botany]

81. I saw it too.

Just sent her an e mail ..... only gushed a little.

I bet ya he is going to fry bush in the AM.

the "I" word???? kickbacks? Lincoln Group???? election fraud?????

boy the dems are tearing bush a new ass. Blood in the water

[RevCheesehead]

82. Nice shark.

Is his name "Snarky?"

[Botany]

85. No Conyers

this must be big!

And Stephanie :loveya: Miller gets to break it.

Can you get her out of Madison?

[RevCheesehead]

86. Yes, but I'm 200 miles away from Madison.

I only hear her when I'm at Mom & Dad's. :(

[SharonRB]

89. If you're near your computer you can stream her show

That's what I do.

[WolverineDG]

83. i better be out of court by that time

:grr:

i could barely handle shrubbie today, even with steph & co. snarking it.

dg

[Botany]

90. Did I ever tell you that you are my Fav EDV?

Looks like Conyers is going to rip bush a new one about the Downing Street Memo and the
b.s. on the run up to Iraq.

BTW * was funny with Steph & Jim snarking but to watch * tonight on CSPAN .....
it was really scary ..... bad lies and crazy mannerisms.

[WolverineDG]

93. this is the first time you've said that to me

:loveya:

i'm now listening to steph & can't wait for conyers! :bounce:

dg

[SharonRB]

95. I'm afraid to leave my desk to go get my lunch.

I don't want to miss him.

On edit: Looks like you got out of jury duty early :)

[RevCheesehead]

96. Hey Sharon!

I'm tuned in to Madison's station, and listening to Steph right now!
(thanks for the suggestion!) :hi:

[SharonRB]

97. Good for you, Rev.

I stream the Boston station off the DU link.

Here's Conyers now.

[WolverineDG]

110. you can also stream from connecticut

wavz, to be exact. that's the stream i use. :)

dg

[SharonRB]

115. I sometimes use that one, too.

[WolverineDG]

109. yeah :)

things were fine until they said the trial might last 2 days or even 3. sorry but i'm leaving for seattle on thursday & don't want to chance getting selected. they were cool about rescheduling me but said "we're not paying you for today." SO? i was there maybe 30 minutes, i'm not expecting to get $40 + mileage (all of $2) for that.

dg

[RevCheesehead]

113. Hooray! You escaped!

:bounce: Glad it worked out, DG.

[WolverineDG]

114. me too

although i did have my "get out of jury duty free" answers at the ready--death penalty for parking tix, etc. ;) chances were slim to none that i'd get picked (who wants an atty on their panel?) but i do know it sometimes happens when both sides think the other is going to strike the atty & don't do it themselves. i could also have gotten up & given some rant to taint the entire jury pool on how all the feds are corrupt & now spying on everyone for no reason, so i just bet this defendant is innocent & being set up by a corrupt government, but i don't think the judge would have appreciated that.... :evilgrin:

dg