Its not against the law to murder gay people in Bush's "liberated" Iraq

[NNN0LHI]

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1838222,00.html

Gays flee Iraq as Shia death squads find a new target

Evidence shows increase in number of executions as homosexuals plead for asylum in Britain

Jennifer Copestake
Sunday August 6, 2006
The Observer


Hardline Islamic insurgent groups in Iraq are targeting a new type of victim with the full protection of Iraqi law, The Observer can reveal. The country is seeing a sudden escalation of brutal attacks on what are being called the 'immorals' - homosexual men and children as young as 11 who have been forced into same-sex prostitution.

There is growing evidence that Shia militias have been killing men suspected of being gay and children who have been sold to criminal gangs to be sexually abused. The threat has led to a rapid increase in the numbers of Iraqi homosexuals now seeking asylum in the UK because it has become impossible for them to live safely in their own country. snip

Eleven-year-old Ameer Hasoon al-Hasani was kidnapped by policemen from the front of his house last month. He was known in his district to have been forced into prostitution. His father Hassan told me he searched for his son for three days after his abduction, then found him, shot in the head. A copy of the death certificate confirms the cause of death.

Homosexuality is seen as so immoral that it qualifies as an 'honour killing' to murder someone who is gay - and the perpetrator can escape punishment. Section 111 of Iraq's penal code lays out protections for murder when people are acting against Islam.

[Deja Q]

1. I'm not surprised. And, BTW, it's not Bush's Iraq. It's the religion..

Or, rather, an unquestioning and utter belief in it that they will ignore the 'love' parts and do what their book statez to do against those declared sinners. Or maybe they see exterination as a form of 'love', how would I know?

I do know. I know firsthand that bigotry can be bestowed by the persecuted too. And, trust me, you wouldn't like a death threat on you either.

As with all things, there are Islamics who are as harmless as a breakfast omelet and Christians who, in practice, are anything but Christian. The world takes all types and nothing is guaranteed. (Mind you, life is also what we make of it... we stopped making some time ago...)

Thank Whomever that America has evolved to the point where BLGT people can parade in floats with large plastic phallic-shaped balloons and not get heckled, never mind murdered. (Ask me one day why I refuse to go to those pointless "Pride" celebrations anymore... that's far more fun than religious nattering...)

[marmar]

2. I guess fundies are achieving in Iraq...

what they'd like to achieve here.

[Solo_in_MD]

7. Welcome to the Sharia at its best

Which some in NA are trying to get recognized as a culturally specific set of rules that should be allowed in some circumstances (agreed to by all parties...).

Those who think Fallwell etc are the big fundie problem are clueless. Islamofacists are the ones to watch. Their behavior in Eurpope is warning to the rest of us.

[NNN0LHI]

8. "Islamofacists" are the ones to watch, you say?

Hmmm.

Don

[Solo_in_MD]

10. Quite

They insist on a level of conformity that Fallwell and company would never dream of. They are more than willing to force the issue. I suggest you see what has happened in sections of Paris the next time you are there.

[NNN0LHI]

11. Sections of Paris are full of Islamofacists?

Is that what you are trying to say?

Don

[marmar]

17. As someone living in America, my biggest concern isn't Islamofascists...

but Christofascists. Here and now, they represent a much greater danger to our freedom.

[zcflint09]

3. Huge suprise huh?

I believe theocratic laws exist in Afghanistan as well. Congrats Dubya for turning a totalitarian regime into a theocratic state--another victory for the "War on Terra!"

[Crabby Appleton]

4. Under strict Islamic Shari'a law,

homosexual behaviour is illegal and subject to a maximum penalty of death, for example

Iran -
http://www.ilga.info/Information/Legal_survey/middle%20east/iran.htm

SA -
http://www.ilga.info/Information/Legal_survey/middle%20east/Saudi_Arabia.htm

[xchrom]

5. they kill us here too.

america is simply spreading or getting behind the concept that women, gay folk and yes children are expendable.

[cali]

9. I don't know where you live

but that sure isn't true in Vermont, where I reside.

[xchrom]

12. california.

but didn't someone in the northeast coast area just kill someone with a hammer in a gay bar?
i.e.2006. he fled to arkansas, etc

please -- gay people are still killed fairly routinely -- otherwise why would prosecuters have a big meeting discuss ways to defeat the gay panic defense?

[cali]

13. Not in Vermont

and if we've had a gay person assaulted in the last 10 years, or murdered, I can't recall it, or find it through a search online. Of course, we have a really low violent crime rate; in 2004 we had 11 homicides. In addition over 75% of the population now supports civil unions or gay marriage.

[xchrom]

15. good for you -- now join the rest of the country and admit

tha gay folk are still killed for being gay.

[cali]

16. I would never deny that and I would

hope that someday all states are more like mine.

[FloridaPat]

6. They got the same "freedom" women got. What are you complaining

about?

[TahitiNut]

14. Nonsense.

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