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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:23 PM Original message |
Note to media: Chavez is NOT A DICTATOR |
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silverweb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. What you said. |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. recommended |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. That's right, he only censors the media and rules by decree. n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. lol! |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
28. Well in fact one could |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. All major networks are owned by his political enemies. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Sort of like when Clinton was in office. NT |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. "Apply the same standards to the USA and Bush is a dictator." |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. No, but it makes the media's designation quite hypocritical |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Bullshit! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. I think Chavez fans are in it with terrorists and should be censored! |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Heh.... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Hey, you're right! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:02 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No. n/t |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
109. That is blatant slander.... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
119. I was being sarcastic...sort-of. n/t |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Yet the media doesn't censor itself, and nobody is in jail. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Remember that part in college where you'd get an F if you just wrote your |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Sure. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
75. What conceivable criticism of Chavez goes unsaid in Venezuela? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:55 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. LoZoccolo doesn't have an answer for you because there isn't one he can |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
61. .... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
131. High five! |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. Back at you! |
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EarthNeedsHope (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. The opposition owns the media in Venezuela |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Bzzzzt wrong, he gets on state-owned TV every Sunday morning. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I've seen you make anti-Castro posts, too, haven't I? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #52 |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. That wasn't my point |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. No, I didn't know that. So what was your point? n/t |
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arikara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. Sadly to say |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Who the hell CARES what it's called |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. I put that there so you could look it up if you didn't believe me. n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:17 AM Response to Reply #59 |
86. I did, you seem to have forgotten to mention that most of the media... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #86 |
103. I'll mention it here. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #48 |
64. Yeah he get's one channel |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
74. ...except during fascist coup attempts. Then it gets blocked and they |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:57 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Bush* should censor the media! |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Why would Bush shut down the media? It's on his side. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #78 |
99. Keith Olbermann? n/t |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
124. Psst. K.O. was on Bush's side with this one. And MSNBC has a record |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Why would they put the progressive shows on in the first place? |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 08:36 AM Response to Reply #125 |
128. MSNBC is not going to bring down the Republican party. Trust me. |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. Fair's counterspin did a great program today on MSNBC |
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EarthNeedsHope (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #48 |
77. You mean he's on the public airwaves?! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #77 |
101. No, but he gets to air his opinions uncensored... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
111. Name one media source in Venezuala that has faced the courts |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #111 |
116. I don't need to and you know why. n/t |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #48 |
84. I think the Bush Administration wants a show like Aló Presidente. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
100. Ha that's kind-of my point; Chavez is an ostensibly left-wing Bush*. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
126. During the coup we supported he was almost killed |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
110. Doesn't the same thing happen here? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
118. Right, Chavez is a left-wing Bush* for the third time. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:43 AM Response to Reply #3 |
62. Greg Palast disagrees with you. I think I'll trust Greg on this one. nt |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #62 |
89. ya think? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #89 |
104. I don't give much credibility to Mr. This Document Flew Out The Window. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:16 AM Original message |
Venezuelan media is anti-Chavez 24/7 |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
71. The "enabling act" allowed him to do so. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 09:59 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Which of the following apply to Chavez and Venezuela? |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Yeah |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. I only read the first one, and ignored the rest. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 09:36 AM Response to Reply #98 |
129. Why don't you just answer the question? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:10 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. I already said; go back to my first response to this thread. n/t |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
85. You cite bullshit as fact, and expect it to go unchallenged? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #71 |
127. So, where's the brutal dictatorial censorship you're bitching about? n/t |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:16 AM Response to Reply #3 |
67. Venezuelan media is anti-Chavez 24/7 |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
95. Venezula Media Whores are getting PAID! |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
91. Kind of like Bush, you mean-- |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. I have for a long time maintained that Chavez is much like Bush*. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #102 |
123. Well then, Chavez must be your kind of guy. |
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gorbal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #3 |
132. The coorperate owned media are constantly spewing lies about him |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. They must be forced to retract their lies. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
117. What kind of "force" |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Probably "saying creepy things on the Internet". n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. or as kitty pilgrim, Lou dobbs gal loves to say... |
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knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. same with Iran's leader, elected by democratic vote |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I guess diktatrw qualifies here. |
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mom cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. Anybody who tells the truth about Bushco. It is a lot like |
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stubertmcfly (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
87. Well.... |
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ikri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. That's easy enough |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. TV news anchors commented that Venezuela doesn't have freedom of the press |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. If only there were a penalty for lying to the public! |
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
14. At This point I Don't See Much Difference Between A dictator and a Decider |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
15. Wasn't it gross |
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niallmac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Lately NPR is really getting on my last nerve. n/t |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 02:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
97. ditto. n/t |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I despise what Tomlinson and his ilk have done to NPR |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
113. The purpose of NPR is to keep the secular liberal, anti-union professional |
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Nedediah (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. He was democratically elected but their media is far from free |
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Jcrowley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 08:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. You are right |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Imagine a society where |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
46. INDEED |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
83. so what you're saying is |
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LibertyorDeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
107. Thanks for the great info. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Examples help |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. BS there are no jailed journalists or oponents please don't lie |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Yes. The media is a slave to capital. It's not free. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. bullshit |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
54. Dissenters and opponents? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
68. So why is the media there anti-Chavez 24/7? n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
27. 1.He's an a-hole.2-He WON'T GIVE UP POWER,3-He's a DICTATOR N/T |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. 1. Bullshit!......2. Bullshit!.......3. Bullshit! |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. 1. He was elected by the people 2. That says he's not a Dictator |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Is this based on anything other than the propaganda you are subjected |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. bullshit..bullshit annnnd... bullshit! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
88. Prove that he wasn't elected... |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
114. It is those who are trying to make him give up power that are undemocratic |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
30. How common was it? It is certainly not good for Chavez to lose the PR war |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. I don't think that's going to happen. |
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Adenoid_Hynkel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
39. Jeff Cohen's must-read account: |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. He is if the Carter Center signs off on dictators. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-20-06 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
45. Chávez a dictator? |
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samsingh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
58. is that what they are calling him? |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #58 |
70. And they call the man who overthrew Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:29 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. GOOD POINT. Doesn't stop * from alliance with Pakistan. |
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clu (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
63. some of you may have seen this before |
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pa28 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Fascinating. Thank you. |
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clu (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. that clip has some pretty heavy shit |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Yup. When Chavez's opposition had control they shot protestors |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
69. read his speech... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
72. A couple of sources |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #72 |
96. The Amnesty International report you linked to |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
81. Musharraf *IS* a dictator, but is called a President. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
115. Pure 1984, isn't it? President Musharraf pledged to capture |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
90. Yes he is. Ever since he won his election and stopped the coup we |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
94. Chavez is NOT A DICTATOR! Media whore LIARS! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
106. You can add one more to your list of where you heard it... |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
108. One can be democratically elected and still be a dictator |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
112. NPR *describing* Chavez as dictator in news segments?? n/t |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
121. Note to Pelosi (calls Chavez a "thug") |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-21-06 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
122. I'm just saying but... |
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progressisvirtue (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
133. yes he is |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Your W Is Not Working |
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progressisvirtue (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-22-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #134 |
135. yeah i know |
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