C-span NOW!

[Casandra]

Check out this press conference on C-span. Some guy who is formerly from NSA, taking questions from reporters..and they are NOT being nice..

[helderheid]

1. thanks!

[bpilgrim]

40. -- --- ---------- --------------- --------------- - > MP3

windows...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-3370

everyone else...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/spygate/nsa-spy-4th-adm-brief-01-23-06.mp3

psst... pass the word ;->

peace

[liveoaktx]

45. VIDEO and AUDIO of that on CanOFun

entire as MP3 (audio)

General comments (EDITED)

Questions part 1 (EDITED)

Questions part 2 (EDITED)

Knight Ridder Question- Reasonableness standard

[helderheid]

awesome!!

[bpilgrim]

47. nice

thanks for sharing :toast:

peace

[helderheid]

2. C-SPAN 2

[FreedomAngel82]

3. Good

What all is he saying?

[Don Claybrook]

4. is this the guy who wants to testify in front of Congress?

Is he the one that the NSA is trying to make out as mentally unstable? Reporters aren't being nice? Do you mean that they don't appear to believe his story, or do you mean something else?

[Viva_La_Revolution]

16. Not that guy, his name is Tice.

You are right, the reporters are not asking "nice" questions! LOL

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. CNN NOW.... Harry Belafonte to be interrogated by Wolfie. nt.

[Skidmore]

CSPAN-2?

That's Hayden's press conference from this morning. Worth watching. Arrogant little creep.

[Coexist]

6. thanks

watching

[helderheid]

7. REFUSED to answer if NSA was targeting those who oppose * admin!

[lpbk2713]

8. Is that Elmer Fudd?

Something's vewy vewy scwewy here.

[NNN0LHI]

9. I thought NSA was suits not uniforms

We are now living in a military dictatorship.

Don

[hwmnbn]

10. This general is not being honest......

I just started watching, but already I can tell he is an asshole.

He's hemming and hawing too much. The reporters are asking him good questions.

[helderheid]

11. he says, "alright?" and "Okay?" toooo much

[Marie26]

12. He's scared - stuttering, won't even say how it's legal. nt

[Viva_La_Revolution]

13. 'live' thread from this morning..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x214854

Pay close attention about 45 minutes in.. He is asked directly if they are spying on political opponents of the bush regime and he refuses to answer.

[hwmnbn]

14. His whole approach is....

we know what we're doing. Our legal team vetted the spying program and said it was legal. You'll have to trust me on this because it is classified information.

Fuck him.

[Marie26]

18. "So why aren't they in jail?"

In response to Gen.'s claim that they only tapped people in Al-queda. Good question!

[bpilgrim]

15. why aren't they already in jail - good question

says they may be over seas

peace

[bpilgrim]

20. same art & science that lets us tell our military to go head and drop 500'

bomb on a target - gulp

peace

[Taguba]

24. Why would FISA deny a warrant on ANYONE talking to known Al-Queda

IT MAKES NO SENCE.

[bpilgrim]

48. exactly

:hi:

peace

[Taguba]

17. If they are Al Queda in America why arent they in jail? good question.

[Taguba]

19. I was a bit slower than you on that. DID you notice he did not answer

[bpilgrim]

22. may be overseas

scary wimpy dude

welcome to DU :toast:

peace

[helderheid]

25. welcome to du

:hi: :)

[Marie26]

21. Yet he's cut off by a body guard - wasn't that odd? nt

[Marie26]

23. "That wasn't my question!"

They're pressing him hard on this.

[Marie26]

27. He's lying!!

You don't need probable cause to get a wiretap?? Please.

[helderheid]

26. PROBABLE CAUSE PROBABLE CAUSE PROBABLE CAUSE

[Coexist]

28. that Knight-Ridder reporter was GREAT!

and cute to boot.

[Marie26]

31. He's saying the 4th Am. only requires "reasonableness"

Who is he trying to kid here?

[bpilgrim]

29. arguing standard for 4th amendment - won't agree that probable clause

is THE standard... gen sweat'n bullets...

peace

[bpilgrim]

30. 4th admendment

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

source...
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment04/

peace

[bpilgrim]

33. wow minder cut off press conf!!!

peace

[bpilgrim]

37. they KNOW they are in BIG TROUBLE!

peace

[Marie26]

39. How long was that press conference?

Seemed very short to me. Did you notice that the "minder" was the same guy who cut off another reporter who asked about spying on diplomats? Then they practically rushed him off stage. Maybe it's just me, but that press conf. was deeply disturbing somehow.

[bpilgrim]

44. about an hour... hopefully c-span will replay it!

though i'm sure the WH might have an objection or 4

peace

[bpilgrim]

46. about an hour (n/t)

peace

[Maru Kitteh]

38. I didn't watch it that far - describe for us please?

You mean some PR suit came in and scurried him off or what?

[bpilgrim]

42. i missed the beginning but i put an mp3 of some of the Q&A at the TOP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=218331&mesg_id=218651

peace

[Marie26]

43. So, apparantly the NSA believes

it only needs to believe it's "reasonable" to search all your belongings & communications without a warrant. That's not reassuring.

[Coexist]

32. "General, is the NSA spying and reporting on political opponents

of the Bush administration, you didn't answer the question"

Shouted to him out the door. That was good.

[Marie26]

34. Well, that was scary, wasn't it?

[Glimmer of Hope]

35. This is a very good question. Hope we hear it many more times!

[ChiciB1]

36. The Last Answer Was PURE Flim-Flam!!

Pulled right out of a hat!! Totally unconscionable!

LIAR, LIAR, LIAR... I REASONABLE believe!!!

[hwmnbn]

41. Court-martial that asshole!....

He swore to uphold the Constitution. Now he's lying to us.