Hussein signed 148 execution orders & was ordered executed. Bush

[LynnTheDem]

signed 159 execution orders...

Iraq's decision is "justice", according to the US government.

So when will bush go on trial? Just wondering.

[Jax]

1. Yep. Lynn nails it

once again.

Nominated.

:thumbsup:

[cali]

3. I can't agree

The comparison is fallacious. Those executed in Texas were tried and convicted and sentenced independently of bush. That wasn't so re Saddam. I can't stand bush or the DP-it's manifestly unfair, and more so in Texas than almost any other state, but it's not the same thing.

[Jax]

5. Well your post is

no big surprise to me cali.

Thanks again Lynn.

[cali]

8. It's called critical thinking.

Bush deserves to be tried for his crimes. Overseeing executions in the state of Texas isn't a part of that list.

[LynnTheDem]

6. And I can't agree with you.

The 148 of Dujail were tried, convicted & sentenced by the Iraqi court.

Hussein signed the death penalty orders.

Just as bush signed the death penalty orders in Texas.

What do you think would happen if 1, 12, or 148 Americans attempted to assassinate bush or any other US president?

Now that we no longer have Habeus Corpus tho it's pretty much a moot point.

[cali]

9. Comparing our court system, with all its flaws

to the Iraqi court system under Saddam is a poor comparison. And no, I don't think Habeas is a moot point.

[Bluerthanblue]

7. well, then, how about

the lives that *'s war on terra has wrought upon humanity?- He wanted this war- and he gets what he wants one way or another.
He KNEW there would be counless deaths- "collerateral damage" if nothing else- and "friendly fire"- which accounts for many of wars casualties- He KNEW the facts- yet he chose to condemn many men, and children to death- far more than a couple of hundred people- thousands upon thousands of people-

And he still says, if he could do it over he would-

THAT is evil- incarnate.

(imltho)

[cali]

11. Absolutely,

Bush deserves to tried for his crimes. I was simply pointing out that Lynn's comparison is flawed.

As for "evil incarnate". I long ago tossed out using that word. It really doesn't explain anything.

[Bluerthanblue]

13. refusing to look

at the horrible, terrible, inexcusable results of ones actions, and admit regret is beyond 'rational' explanation- It is beyond 'acceptable human behavour'- so I call it evil- the yin/yang of life- the law of opposites, if there is a 'divine'- a 'greater than oneself' aspect of humanity, then I believe there is also the counter of that- and for lack of a better word "evil" is what I call it-

It may not 'explain' anything- but it identifies an action/way of living- that is difficult to catagorize, and has been around since the begining of time-

The 'trial' Hussien got, was a joke- the charges were equally lame- Is the man an 'average joe'? Not from what I've come to understand, but the monster * would have people seek to see him as? Only if * is his American 'equivilent'.

Have you read some of the transcripts, and requests for 'stays' of Execution that * refused when Gov? I have- Money talks- and rich, connected people walk- The lesser thans, are left to the mercy of many 'well intentioned' but over-worked, underpaid, working stiff- pro-bono lawyers.
Comparing the trials many of the executed Texans got, with the trials the Iraqi's got isn't that far fetched-

The comparison is not really flawed- it is simply uncomfortably too true.
again in my not so humble (in this matter) opinion-

blu

[leftchick]

20. bush has killed upwards of 600,000 Iraqis who had no trial

does that fit your criteria?

[texpatriot2004]

2. And * has signed how many exactly? nm

[Bluerthanblue]

4. * has his own perspective of "Just Us"-

but he is far more guilty of crimes against humanity in my view- And WILL be forced to answer for himself someday- "make no mistake about this"-

[Gregorian]

10. After he's arrested.

I don't mean that facetiously.

I keep wondering when the cops will knock on the door of 1600.

Of course, it's not easy to determine guilt. Just look at what Fitzgerald is going through.

But we can dream.

[Cocoa]

12. Saddam wasn't tried for having the death penalty

he was tried for crimes against humanity.

[LynnTheDem]

21. He was tried for signing exeuciton orders for 148 Dujail villagers

after their failed assassination attempt, after the Iraqi court found them guilty.

That's fact.

[applegrove]

14. Sorry - Saddam gassed thousands. And didn't leave a paper trail.

Comparison unfair. Though I am against the death penalty... I don't see how you can compare someone who killed a few hundred thousand like that.

[phusion]

16. Sorry - Bush's illegal actions killed hundreds of thousands

of Iraqi citizens.

I'd say it is a fair comparison.

[Rocknrule]

15. But but but...Bush's executions were RIGHTEOUS JUDGEMENT!

He's God on Earth! When he kills people it's because they deserve it!
:sarcasm:

[Dangerman]

17. I'm not a fan of Saddam...

But even he deserves a fair trail.

I mean... Saddam just gas a few hundred of his enemies and he gets the boot, Bush killed 200,000 Iraqis and he never got charged and arrested. Bush is the most murderous governor when he was in Texas.

Saddam got pissed when someone tried to assassinate him, he got his anger to execute the responsible members and their supporters. He he's going to hang for this. George Bush endorses torture, suspending haebus corpus and orders our gullible military to annihilate innocent Iraqis with Depleted Uranium munitions and napalm, and he is free dancing with Laura Bush into the sunset.

One of those days Bush will pay for his worse crimes to humanity than Saddam. I hope Bush burs in hell for what he done in Iraq. I don't care how many time he "claimed" to receive Jesus as his "savior", he's not going to heaven.

Dammit! It's not fair, a lesser "war criminal" will be hanged for some political crap so he won't exposed Bush & co., while the bigger war criminal gets away with murder!

I'm living in a nightmarish world we are in!

[Cocoa]

23. the Iraqis deserve a fair trial

this farce denies them their chance for justice. :mad:

[majorjohn]

24. Insane statement

Saddam "just" gassed a "few hundred of his enemies" ??? Even though I disagree with you on the figures -as it was way more than just a few hundred- you still make it sound like it was no big deal.

[eppur_se_muova]

18. Bu**sh** is in violation of the Espionage Act:

Klaus Fuchs got fourteen years, the Rosenbergs were EXECUTED.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

The Rosenbergs were convicted on March 29, 1951, and on April 5 were sentenced to death by Judge Irving Kaufman under section 2 of the Espionage Act, 50 U.S. Code 32 (now 18 U.S. Code 794), which prohibits transmitting or attempting to transmit to a foreign government information "relating to the national defense."

Use those as guideliines while considering what Bu**sh**'s sentence should be for this partisanship-driven monumental disaster: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=2576091&mesg_id=2576091

[dkofos]

19. I would sign his

[theHandpuppet]

22. Shall we keep score?

"George W. Bush during his six years as governor of Texas presided over 152 executions, more than any other governor in the recent history of the United States.... "

And under Bush's watch as Pretzeldent:
Number of American military deaths in Iraq: 2828
Number of American wounded: 21077
Number of Iraqi civilian deaths: 100,000+

So just when is the trial of Bush to begin?