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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 08:47 PM Original message |
Lieberman says he is "beholden to no one except the voters of Connecticut and my own conscience" |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. ..and a few dozen lobbyists... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. His "conscience" must be a bit crowded with 655,000 corpses buried in it. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Ddid he personally kill all those people? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Off by 1/2 million? Not a chance. The numbers are valid. nm |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. wrong on all counts; Iraq minister states 150,000 deaths |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. PFFFT. Yeah, THAT'S a reliable source. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. PFTTT yourself. The Lancet study is an estimate only |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 02:25 AM Response to Reply #47 |
80. You cling to the word "estimate" like a fundie saying evolution is a "theory". |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. You cling to Lancet like a fundie saying evolution is a "theory". |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
111. Well, tell us what's wrong with the Lancet study. |
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StraightDope (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
87. Well, Barb, let me clear this up. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Good thing you're around to clear things up |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
98. It was a very sophisticated and well validated survey method. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. No one disputes that |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #26 |
102. Bush has rejected those figures too. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. So who cares what Bush says? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #102 |
119. And what more "PROOF" could any obedient LieberFan ever possibly want? |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah those second-rate University studies |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I thought the Iraqis voted. At least the media reported they voted |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Question....are you some kind of LIEberman |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. employee? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Mmmm, facts must bother you, I assume? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 03:04 AM Response to Reply #50 |
83. No, in FACT, you don't "assume". You "ACCUSE". It's not the same thing . |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #83 |
106. I'd say you're accusing here |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #106 |
117. Yes, I agree completely: you certainly WOULD say something like that. nm |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Why would you ask a question llike that? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 03:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
84. AHEM, my FACTloving fellow DUer: Joe is -NOT- a "DEM Senator" from CT. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:01 AM Response to Reply #84 |
107. Ahem, my estimate- loving fellow DUer |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #107 |
116. Nope. He ceased to be a "Democrat" when he joined an OPPOSING PARTY. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 11:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. Take a little lookie-see here on the official US Senate site. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. hmmm, whom to agree with? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I'd take actual morgue counts;a body is a body, not an estimate |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. How do they arrive at their counts? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Why don't you read some articles on it |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I wouldn't use IBC as any sort of estimate.. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. It was a widely accepted methodology |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I know that |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I agree |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #23 |
53. I am not saying it's dubious. It's an estimate which is never |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
65. It is an estimate.. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 08:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
85. you will never get actual numbers in a war torn country |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. Because the actual number of dead people |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. yes |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #99 |
108. I suggest you take another look at the very long list |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
101. Barb, do remember that most people on this board oppose the war. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Tom, why do you suppose I have a memory problem? |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. You may not have supported the war, but Joe was behind it from the very |
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HawkerHurricane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. "And if you believe that, I'll sell you this watch!" |
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DODI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. He lost his conscience years ago! |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Are you his shrink? |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why are Democrats putting up with this? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Putting up with what? |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Thank you barb |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Yeah, you'd think he's the devil incarnate or something. I bet |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. because he sucks up to the monsters in the Bush Administration |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Please enlighten me.. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Holy Joe disenfranchised votes by |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Well said. Don't run as a Dem in the Primary |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. People had the right to vote for him and Lamont and they did. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. A primary happened and the results were in. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:19 AM Response to Reply #57 |
109. Andf then Lieberman decided to take the bull by the horns and run |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Barb, It was called a Democratic Primary |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:22 AM Response to Reply #59 |
110. I hate to tell you that primary is totally meaningless sinceTuesday |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. it's not |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
112. One third of Democrats voted for Lieberman on Tuesday |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
121. where I come from |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Ok, let's go over this... |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
86. Let me help you help you to understanding... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. I see you are also living in a world of delusion |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:46 AM Response to Reply #86 |
113. He didn't disregard it. He knew he had the votes of others |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
61. been there, done that |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:13 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. So then you must think Harry Reid is a total idiot for |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #54 |
63. No Harry was Blackmailed |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. The Repuke candidate was so weak |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. And? |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:53 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Joe won in the General over Lamont |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Blackmail is a pretty strong word |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Hahaha. I have seen the word "extortion" and now |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Politics is such a dirty biusness |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Politicians vote against their own party all the time. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 02:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Chafee and Snowe didn't defy the consensus of the primary |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:54 AM Response to Reply #81 |
115. Your comments show amazing inflexibilty |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #63 |
114. Is Jim Jeffords a blackmailer too? I don' t see you posting on him |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. Maria Cantwell was elected by Democrats |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
58. the problem? See my signature, it it's back. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
60. here's another problem or thirty |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. and the israeli lobby... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I wish you anti-Isreali, anti-Lieberman people would just say... |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Yeah, that would be a nice touch |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. where the hell do you get that... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. But it's so much easier than defending their position with FACTS. |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. What facts? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. i suppose, ds, have a lovely evening this... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. And the same to you. |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Good for you. Mazal Tov even. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. shalom... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
71. Well gee I guess that makes me an anti-semitic Jew |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Deleted sub-thread |
jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
15. So, in other words, just the voters of Connecticut... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. And, in light of his recent actions, NOT the Democratic ones... |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. What recent actions? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. You know perfectly well that I refer to the Democratic Primary. |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. What game? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I said "good day". eom |
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everythingsxen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. And yet you still reply |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
75. I bet it looks like a democracy especially to the CT voters |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #30 |
74. Actually , the data is that one third of the Democrats voted for him |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 02:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
82. So you ADMIT that he was the favorite of the REPUBS. |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
73. Well, that's who he represents, right? |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. What conscience? |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:30 AM Response to Reply #22 |
77. Well I bet Al Gore would strongly disagree with you |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
25. Here's one analyst's take |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Good Show! I see Joe's Gang Here have mo answer to this |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
78. Bwa ha. The real reason Lieberman won: The voters |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
90. and his corporate repub paymasters - oops sorry - MUST NOT DIS JOE |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
91. 'and Bush, Cheney, and a bunch of Republicans who dumped their own candidate to support me. But now |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Deleted message |
LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. He's a bad Dem, just as Blair is a bad Labourite |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
93. Wrong. Yes he is beholden to the voters of Connecticut, |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
96. Too Funny!!! |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
97. When did he get a conscience?! nt |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-12-06 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
118. he wants a committee. better stop smearing him. |
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