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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:15 PM Original message |
I don't get it DU. A woman and a black man who may run who have a real chance is historical! |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. Amen! |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. You obviously don't have a clue as to the meaning of the word |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
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radwriter0555
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. If I ever referred to my friends and family as folks, they'd kick me out of the house. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. What's wrong with folks? |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
84. Nothing...... |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. TRUE DAT! |
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radwriter0555
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Tue Dec-12-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
143. The use of "folks" is demeaning in that it's a countrified type of term, |
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REP
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:44 AM Response to Reply #143 |
148. Your Prejudice Doesn't Equal Good Etymology |
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radwriter0555
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Wed Dec-13-06 02:12 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. I've never heard the term "folks" used to address a group of people other than blacks. You never |
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Nicole
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Wed Dec-13-06 04:26 AM Response to Reply #151 |
152. Just because you've never heard it doesn't mean it isn't used |
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radwriter0555
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:38 AM Response to Reply #152 |
160. But you didn't say "them white folks in washington got their ass kicked" |
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:40 AM Response to Reply #152 |
161. I Had An African American Sociology Professor Who Used The Term "Folks" All The Time... |
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Wed Dec-13-06 07:11 AM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Hello |
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Dorian Gray
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Wed Dec-13-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #151 |
165. Really? |
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shadowknows69
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:33 PM Response to Reply #148 |
178. I use "folks" because it means "common people" |
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xultar
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:14 AM Response to Reply #143 |
170. FOLK=FAMILY. You are so wrong. I don't need ANY WHITE person telling me what is demeaning to me. |
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shanti
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Wed Dec-13-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #170 |
182. ok! |
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Kerrytravelers
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #143 |
172. Our family has used "folks" forever. |
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shanti
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Wed Dec-13-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #143 |
181. oh please |
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REP
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
149. Not A Damned Thing! |
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Nicole
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Wed Dec-13-06 04:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
153. Nothing |
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Le Taz Hot
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. So, I'm supposed to vote for Hillary |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. DID I SAY THAT???? JEBUS can you read? |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Yeah, you said that and a lot more. You accused everyone |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. No I didn't.....I SAID THE POSTS questioning his money for college were RACIST. |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Crap, you said that everyone who questioned his lack of |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. The experience line is just a fucking excuse. They used it on Harold Ford. |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
65. You say it's an excuse. To some it is a damn valid reason for |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Yes, my post did say that every one is racist. You read it correctly. BUHWAWAWA! |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #71 |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. You're so cute. You crack me up. You should take your act on the road. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Questioning Obama's experience is racist? I quote your OP here |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. I'm afraid that if he were white it wouldn't be that big of a deal to some. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Are you saying DUers only question experience of non-whites? |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm SERISE!!!!!11111111 FOR SOME...yes. What you don't think it is possible? |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. anything is possible, but saying Everyone who questions his experience is racist is wrong. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. FOR THE LAST TIME. IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU THEN SKIP THAT ONE. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. it does get annoying when there are so many subthreads to reply to |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. It does become crazy confusing doesn't it. OK. Friends? |
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Tom Rinaldo
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
167. To others it would be though |
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roguevalley
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Tue Dec-12-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
145. until they declare officially, I don't see a historical event. plenty of |
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Kerrytravelers
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
174. Please read the post carefully. The OP clearly said she supports Clark. |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. while i am fine with hillary/obama |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
91. True. I do believe Hill and Obama have some Corp hooks in their asses... |
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radwriter0555
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. well it's a good thing black folks will vote for someone just because they're black, right? |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Sorry, but blacks do vote in a block in a way that women, Hispanics, etc. do not. nt |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. No need to pull logic out. It will only serve to confuse them. |
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radwriter0555
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Tue Dec-12-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
141. Is that right? Blacks are the only sector that votes in a specific block? How would you |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I don't know. But 9 years as a pollster I saw i pretty regularly. nt |
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Catherine Vincent
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
105. Actually, that's not the case. |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #105 |
132. I didn't say that. I said "they vote in a block." nt |
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Catherine Vincent
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Tue Dec-12-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #132 |
144. And I didn't say that you did, sweety.:) |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Oh! Sorry! nt |
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bryant69
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Is it borderline racist to see more than Obama's skin? |
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sniffa
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. oi vey |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. No one here questions where white candidates got their money for college. |
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mike_c
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. it makes no difference to me that Hillary is female or Obama is black.... |
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JNelson6563
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. Wow. Just wow. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I didn't say that. YOU CAN'T READ. BTW..I support Clark. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. You said questioning his experience ir racist. Here is your quote |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Alright...I'll change it and list the exceptions for you. Will that help? |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. I UPDATED IT FOR YOU...IF IT DOESN'T APPLY THEN SKIP IT. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. so, if you are racist enough to have this apply it does but if not not? |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Exactly. I'm not a Hill or Obama supporter but I love the fact that he has a chance. |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Me too. |
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Dora
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That's not what Xultar said. |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. No that is NOT what the OP said. |
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Dora
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. That is exactly what the OP said. |
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swimboy
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Step away from the thread. |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Help me what?????????? |
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swimboy
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Help you consider |
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acmavm
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
100. Worry about yourself. |
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swimboy
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #100 |
112. Thank you. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Thank you!!! I don't even support Hill or Obama...I support Clark. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ever go to the horse races? |
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babylonsister
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
19. From my POV, the media coverage is really annoying because |
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SoCalDem
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. You got it.. That's why thet are DOING it.. |
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az chela
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Amen to this sister |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
51. But it is HISTORICAL...If you can't see that then you are lost and I don't even support H/O |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. It can be just as historical in a year, can't it? I'm not negating |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. WTF...people have already started announcing. So you think that they |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
21. Postitive things can come out of the coverage. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm with you xultar |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Thank you...did you read the replies...I'm shocked that so many people can't read. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. What's your take on David Sirota's recent articles? |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. I think David Sirota has some valid concerns. I like his articles. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
26. Who is being racist/sexist here, really? |
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uppityperson
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. You got it! It's HUGH!!!1 |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:20 PM Original message |
Blacks will vote for Obama yes. For Condi no. Understand? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. There's a large part of me that is excited about Obama and HRC |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
95. I agree about teen girls and the Hill run. I didn't want it to be a Hill bashing thread |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
133. Pelosi is pretty exciting also. What a GOOD contrast with Hastert. nt |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
32. The hell with this thread. Debating candidates strengths and weaknesses on non-ethnic/non-gender |
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swimboy
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. I think I hear where you're coming from. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
87. Thanks for understanding. People don't want to admit that they may be biased |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #87 |
134. We all take mental shortcuts. Smart people don't act on them. nt |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
37. Watch what you say. There's a new PC cop on this beat... n/t |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. It is almost as if I have to list everyone it doesn't apply to. To me if it isn't you |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
38. Xultar, I am with you. It's WONDERFUL. When you look at the presidents past, |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:57 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. I'm excited about Obama having a chance and the seeds this plants |
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Captain Hilts
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
52. They're also two Ivy League-trained lawyers, which shifts things backin their favor. nt |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. I'm not really in that arena. I'm not a fan of lawyer types. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
60. Sorry Xultar, I don't "Trust" the media as far as I can throw them..... |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. True on not trusting the MSM. But think of the seeds being planted cuz of the Obama buzz. |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. Clarkie through and through...although the more I think about it, |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. YOU ROCK! Major props to your daughter. I'm so proud!! THIS IS COOL! |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. Who knows, maybe my daughter will run for Prez one day, and maybe it will be because |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. True. That is why I love Clark. He can scrap with the best and come out |
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FrenchieCat
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I'll let her know that she has at least 2 votes...... |
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:03 AM Response to Reply #60 |
157. i think the media is gonna chew 'em up and spit out their bones |
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endarkenment
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
63. Almost all of the posts against Clinton and Obama |
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Goblinmonger
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
67. Especially given that a little over 50 years ago |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. And still getting killed now under the covers for it in some areas. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
98. Obama himself would've been technically "illegitimate" in many states... |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
109. So true. Best post in this entire thread. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
68. Um, it's not "racist" to point out that Obama ISN'T experienced. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. If it doesn't apply to you skip that one. Though whites in TN used it against Ford. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. Actually, the problems I had with Ford as a candidate were very different. |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. OK you would yes. But some won't say the same thing about a black candidate. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I don't doubt it. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
75. "Obama is a bad choice because he's black." |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. That is what I was trying to say but I didn't want to be that blunt. You are correct |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
121. You have seen that argument made here? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. I have. |
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swimboy
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
82. Inexperienced? |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. And he ruined TX. Turned it into a third...FOURTH world country |
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AtomicKitten
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
83. It just means THEIR candidate isn't a woman or black. |
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qanda
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
88. Well, I for one am recommending this thread |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. That's what I'm sayin!!!! I had to say something. It was looking strange. |
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Bluebear
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. I did too. |
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Bluebear
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
90. Those of us who are not straight white Christian men would love a place ... |
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xultar
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. That's what I'm sayin! AMEN! |
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Karenina
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Man-o-man |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
96. Instead of welcoming a new age in the U.S., the media attacks Pelosi, Obama, Hilary. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. TRUE DAT! |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
101. What if it was Condileeza and Colin Powell? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. I'd vomit. For the Condi part...Powell didn't do enough and I don't understand why. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
110. I like Powell. Hate Condi. So? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. So |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. You like Powell? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #119 |
130. I like him. Don't get me wrong. He did his masters bidding for sure. |
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Miss Chybil
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
111. Amen! nt |
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Tue Dec-12-06 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
114. Sure the coverage is historic |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
115. Consider when Carol Mosley Braun was running. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #115 |
129. Carol didn't really have a chance. Notice I said CHANCE. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
116. You have a point (its historic and worth celebrating), but those types of questions |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #116 |
125. mondale/ferraro suffered a HUMILATING loss |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
117. Obama & Hillary are DLC-that's why I don't like them. No doubt others probably feel the same. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
118. Just wanted to say... |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
120. They aren't the best ones running, sex and race aren't my primary issues, and this won't be... |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. Jesse Jackson. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:43 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. True, sorry, didn't mean to forget Jesse Jackson. - n/t |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. Jesse didn't have a chance. |
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #131 |
177. Because he was black? |
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nashville_brook
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
123. the media attention NOW is a great thing if you're a fan of either |
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WI_DEM
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Tue Dec-12-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
126. Many on DU aren't that progressive. I especially hate the way they |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #126 |
135. progressives don't all march to the same tune. remember Nader? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
128. Well, in fact, Obama doesn't have a lot of experience in national politics. |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
136. GO Boxer & Conyers!! GO Sheila Jackson-Lee!! |
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Tue Dec-12-06 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
137. I support Obama...on a |
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Tue Dec-12-06 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
138. Actually you are quite right |
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Tue Dec-12-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Please don't hold Indira Gandhi up as an example... |
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Tue Dec-12-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. I did not hold her up as an example of a good leader |
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Wed Dec-13-06 06:42 AM Response to Reply #138 |
154. Can you believe we haven't had a women or a ethnic president? |
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
179. what the heck is an ethnic president? |
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Tue Dec-12-06 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
142. I don't question Barack or Hillary. I question the DLC types who |
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Wed Dec-13-06 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
150. k&r |
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Wed Dec-13-06 06:43 AM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Haven't seen you in a while. How you doin down there? You o.k.? |
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
158. this reminds me of the knee-jerk 'defence' of israel that pops up so often |
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Wed Dec-13-06 09:05 AM Response to Reply #158 |
163. Some Times A Cigar Is Just A Cigar.... |
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
159. Thanks Xultar for saying this |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #159 |
169. I see what you mean. Why is it that people are so rude on the web? |
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Wed Dec-13-06 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
162. If Experience And Wisdom Are Synonymous Why Did Kerry Vote For The Iraq War? |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #162 |
171. Oh and don't tell me the destruction of TX equates to wisdom enough to win in 2000. |
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Wed Dec-13-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
164. Somehow I am confused |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:11 AM Response to Reply #164 |
168. Nope. That's not what I said. Questioning where he got his money for school... |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
166. So true |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #166 |
173. IT is sad. I haven't seen anyone ding Obama on his stances only that he's getting play |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:58 AM Response to Reply #173 |
176. I see the same round of excuses |
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Wed Dec-13-06 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
175. When Obama talks people listen. We need to be listened to. His |
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Wed Dec-13-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
180. Great post! |
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