So, the Freepers say it's the Dems who took all the Abramoff cash.

[BuyingThyme]

Let's agree with them.

Let's take the high ground and insist on special counsels, special prosecutors, special committees, special reports.

Let's ally with the Freepers on this. What a special opportunity!

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. Fill me in

I didn't follow this today. I know he was arrested, but is anyone really saying it is a Dem problem too?

Sorry to be dim..haven't been feeling too well.

[aquart]

4. Go back to bed. Take care of your health.

This will all still be here when you're feeling better.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

8. Well, it won't go away, for sure

I went back to work today but am not doing so hot yet. And the Orange Bowl is on tonight and I think I'll be in bed with the old CPAP going before kickoff. Maybe I can keep it on in the bedroom or something.

[JuniperLea]

19. Take care of yourself, Grannie!

Sorry to hear you are under the weather!

[Richard Steele]

7. He cut a deal and plead guilty today.

And all the Corporate Media are trying to create some 'spin'
that Dems were in on his dirty deals.

[BuyingThyme]

12. Here's the obligatory Freeper thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1551333/posts

as posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x43160

Excerpt:

GOP to take the biggest hit......I don't think so..

* Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Received At Least – $22,500
* Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) Received At Least – $6,500
* Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) Received At Least – $1,250
* Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Received At Least – $2,000
* Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Received At Least – $20,250
* Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Received At Least – $21,765
* Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) Received At Least – $7,500
* Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least – $12,950
* Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) Received At Least – $8,000
* Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Received At Least – $7,500
* Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) Received At Least – $14,792
* Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Received At Least – $79,300
* Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) Received At Least – $14,000
* Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Received At Least – $2,000
* Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) Received At Least – $1,250
* Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) Received At Least – $45,750
* Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Received At Least – $9,000
* Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Received At Least – $2,000
* Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) Received At Least – $14,250
* Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Received At Least – $3,300
* Senator John Kerry (D-MA) Received At Least – $98,550
* Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Received At Least – $28,000
* Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) Received At Least – $4,000
* Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,000
* Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) Received At Least – $29,830
* Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least – $14,891
* Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Received At Least – $10,550
* Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) Received At Least – $78,991
* Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) Received At Least – $20,168
* Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least – $5,200
* Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) Received At Least – $7,500
* Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) Received At Least – $2,300
* Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) Received At Least – $3,500
* Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Received At Least – $68,941
* Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV) Received At Least – $4,000
* Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) Received At Least – $4,500
* Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Received At Least – $4,300
* Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least – $29,550
* Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,250
* Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) Received At Least – $6,250

:rofl:

[politicaholic]

18. Those Freepers are soooo "in the loop"...

notice how Kerry is the top money guy.

They're so transparently pathetic.

[PatrioticLeftie]

23. Hmm, they ALL seem to be Dems...

What a coincidence.

Freepers are full of shit.

[proud2BlibKansan]

32. Is this the same list?

I think you might have skipped over a few.

40 Of The 45 Members Of The Senate Democrat Caucus:

Senator Max Baucus (D-MT) Received At Least – $22,500
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) Received At Least – $6,500
Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE) Received At Least – $1,250
Senator Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Received At Least – $20,250
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA) Received At Least – $21,765
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Received At Least – $12,950
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND) Received At Least – $8,000
Senator Jon Corzine (D-NJ) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT) Received At Least – $14,792
Senator Byron Dorgan (D-ND) Received At Least – $79,300
Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) Received At Least – $14,000
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) Received At Least – $1,250
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) Received At Least – $45,750
Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI) Received At Least – $9,000
Senator Jim Jeffords (I-VT) Received At Least – $2,000
Senator Tim Johnson (D-SD) Received At Least – $14,250
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) Received At Least – $3,300
Senator John Kerry (D-MA) Received At Least – $98,550
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA) Received At Least – $28,000
Senator Pat Leahy (D-VT) Received At Least – $4,000
Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,000
Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) Received At Least – $29,830
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Received At Least – $14,891
Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) Received At Least – $10,550
Senator Patty Murray (D-WA) Received At Least – $78,991
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) Received At Least – $20,168
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) Received At Least – $5,200
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) Received At Least – $7,500
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR) Received At Least – $2,300
Senator Jack Reed (D-RI) Received At Least – $3,500
Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Received At Least – $68,941
Senator John Rockefeller (D-WV) Received At Least – $4,000
Senator Ken Salazar (D-CO) Received At Least – $4,500
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) Received At Least – $4,300
Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) Received At Least – $29,550
Senator Debbie Stabenow (D-MI) Received At Least – $6,250
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) Received At Least – $6,250

http://www.tray.com/

A freeper I debate regularly just posted this. And check out the link! What a slime. I think I will go post that FR link so everyone else on that board can see where he REALLY got this list. LOL

[robbedvoter]

42. I especially loved they didn't skip Corzine - man works gratis

and funded his own extremely expensive campaign.

[kliljedahl]

2. Good strategery, think it'll work?

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[louis-t]

25. The strategery will be:

"See, all of these Dems took money, yet not one of them is being prosecuted. Damn Liberal judges. Damn Liberal media. Where's the outrage?"

[Mutley]

3. Heh, I won't be allying with the freepers...

but if any Dems have broken the law they better damn well go down with all the Repubs.

[I Have A Dream]

9. I agree. I want anyone who broke the law to be held accoutable.

The problem is that the right's going to spin this so that people who haven't broken the law are going to be equated with people who did to make it look as though everyone did the same thing.

[grateful581]

27. I Agree

You broke the law. you better get prosecuted, Democrat or republican. I am sick and tired of corruption in government.

[Acryliccalico]

5. Great strategy n/t

:kick:

[Botany]

6. Just a talking point

Bloomberg:

Between 2001 and 2004, Abramoff gave more than $127,000 to Republican candidates and committees and nothing to Democrats, federal records show.

Enough with the docile repetition of "well you know Democrats are implicated in this too." They're not. The shameless perpetuation of GOP talking points in the guise of news by major media outlets is a creeping coup.

~snip~

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2006_01_01_firedoglake_...

[Arkana]

24. Exactly.

One of the things I learned from reading James Carville is that you NEVER, EVER acknowledge that "the other side has a point." Drill your own points as thoroughly as you can--but make sure at the same time that you don't defy logic, try to refute known fact, or any of those other pesky rules of debate...you know, the ones our talking head friends ignore on a daily basis.

Maybe we should try the "innocent till proven guilty" route rather than trying to show "bipartisanship" by lynching at first sight. :puke:

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. What about Reid and Dorgan?

[Cha]

10. Yeah, amazing how abramoff

did NOT donated one thin dime to the Dems..that makes bush a LIAR..Wait..he already is.

"Despite Chris Matthews’ minimization of the Jack Abramoff scandal, a November 25, 2005 Washington Post article identified four lawmakers under investigation in connection to Abramoff -- former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX), Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT), Rep. Rob Ney (R-OH), and Rep. John T. Doolittle (R-CA) -- all Republicans. Our search of the Center for Responsive Politics database of campaign contributions did not find any contributions from Abramoff to Democrats or Democratic leadership political action committees.

Despite those facts, we have documented Washington Post staff writer Jeffrey H. Birnbaum miscasting the rising tide of ethics investigations and corruption scandals plaguing primarily Republican officials as a bipartisan problem. We have also noted a number of national media figures that have cast the recent spate of political scandals as "nonpartisan," while the vast majority of government officials who have been indicted or are under investigation are Republicans."



http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/abramoff-only-gave-money-to.html

[zoeb]

11. does Bugmenot have username/pwords? I want to go cheer them

on. Support them in their endeavor.

:applause: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl: :applause: :rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

13. Good point. We need to send our trolls over. Trolls check in.

[MadisonProgressive]

14. There is a difference between being involved with Abramoff

and illegal activity, and being a senator that accepts a campaign donation from an indian tribe. The FREEPS are trying to conflate those two totally different occurrences.

[BuyingThyme]

15. Shhhhh...

[MadisonProgressive]

17. oops... almost gave up operation 'X'.

Mums the word!

[gordianot]

34. NPR reported that difference this evening.

Apparently this is a major difference and may save some Democrats.

[Quixote1818]

16. BT your OP's always crack me up.

You have a unique obscure sense of humor that is a real kick. :thumbsup:

[man4allcats]

20. Agreed!

I have no doubt there are Democrats involved. Those who are guilty must pay the price regardless of party affiliation. I don't see this as a partisan issue. Cheers to you and Best Wishes for a Happy New Year!

[Poppyseedman]

21. Here's the truth

http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recips.asp

Ugly on both sides of the aisle. Looks like about 3 to 2 gop to dem.

Lots of Washington people sucking down sleeping pills tonight

[BuyingThyme]

22. This is not about who received money.

That's the talking point.

[Catrina]

44. How so? Not a single Democrat on that list got money from Abramoff!

You're not reading it right. That's how the Freepers are reading it. Someone needs to go over there and show them how to read it!! Then let's just sit back and watch!!:rofl:

That list shows clearly that NO democrat got a donation from Abramoff!! Not ONE.

Everytime Abramoff's name, and his wife's, appears, it is right next to a Republican!!

Poor Freepers. I knew they were DUMB, but I didn't know they were THIS dumb!! :rofl:


Here, you have to check out all the categories and this list is GREAT for Democrats!


http://www.capitaleye.org/abramoff_recip.asp?sort=D

Go down the list!! Thanks for posting it, but it's hillarious that Freepers just checked the first link and assumed all that money was directly donated by Abramoff!! I'm laughing so hard it hurts! :rofl:

What a bunch of delusional fools they are. But Rush will tell them tomorrow that they read it right, and then they'll be fine again, no matter what their eyes tell them. Such is the depth of the harm done by listening to propaganda 24/7 for so many years!

[Catherine Vincent]

26. I AIN'T ALLYING WITH NO DAMN FREEPER!!

Are you loco?! :-)

[tinfoilinfor2005]

28. On NBC nightly news they had Reid's picture up next to Delay's

as people who were involved with Abramoff. I was livid. :grr:

[The Doctor.]

29. Been doing exactly that...

Gotta make it clear that the reason so many are concerned with this administration is not simply because Bush is an insult to intelluctual America, but because we all want corruption and incompetence out of government.

Who cares who's guilty - put em' away!

[Lex]

30. Freepers also said Plame & Wilson would be indicted and not Scooter

by Prosecutor Fitzpatrick.

They are so stupid it's scary.

[grateful581]

33. you wonder if they even believe their own bullshit

[freedom000]

35. i'm new here, what's a freeper?

[Lex]

36. a member of a hate group

anti-American, Bush apologist site call freerepublic.com

[Redstone]

37. Perfect description.

Redstone

[BuyingThyme]

39. Welcome to DU, freedom000!

Freepers are also known as Morans.

[grateful581]

40. Welcome to Du Freedom000

:toast: :hi:

[txindy]

38. That just makes them ugly AND stupid.

Although they keep trying to poke their brains into sparking every once in a while. It's not working.

[BuyingThyme]

41. ..

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

43. Absolutely right. And to show my intentions, I have made this web page

to aid in helping out their Politicians in trouble.

http://www.leftandrightfight.com/AbramoffFundsDisposal.htm

[johnfunk]

45. Freeps tripping on JimRob's tainted Kool-Aid

[jazzjunkysue]

46. somebody host this new Abramoff pic for me, please.

[BlackVelvet04]

47. According to americablog......

What was that about Abramoff giving money to Democrats?
by John in DC - 1/04/2006 01:15:00 AM

Here is the list of who Abramoff gave money to, per Michael Petrelis' research:

$172,933 - Republican
$88,985 - special interest
total: $261,918

That's 229 donations and not a DIME to Democrats.

The list of donations is long, but it makes a great visual, so I'm posting it anyway. Next time you hear someone say that this is a bipartisan scandal, whip out this list and laugh.

This comes from Newsmeat.com, they have all the FEC data. I just counted, and I think this list of GOP donors and organizations is around 15 feet long. Someone on our side REALLY needs to print out this list and get in front of a camera. Hell, every single one of our pundits should have this list with them on TV and just roll it out on the table.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2006/01/what-was-that-about-abramoff-giving.html

[madokie]

48. agree with the freeps, ain't gonna happen, sorry