Another point from Malloy about UAE

[FreedomAngel82]

Malloy just made the point that perhaps this is happening because Bush is sacrificing himself so the republicans can once again be seen as the one's to trust on national security and not the democrats so they can "win" in 2006. We already know they have plans drawn up to go into Iran so I do think this has something to do with it. So could this be it? I watched Joe Scaborough tonight and they were talking about how well Bill Frist and other republicans were going on. Lawrence O'Donnell was on and he was the only one who said that Hillary Clinton did legislation against this.

[madmax]

1. My husband is on the same page with Mike

He told me the same thing earlier today. I said, naaah... :spank:

[FreedomAngel82]

2. And in another post on this

someone made the point this is all to make Haliburton and other W friendly companies look good and get all the contracts. I'm looking for Haliburton to take control next.

[Erika]

3. The Bushbots can't come up with troops to go after Iran

Bombing won't do the job.

The young republicans aren't turning out for enlistment.

[FreedomAngel82]

4. Air bombs with Britian like before?

[flyarm]

5. what???????? young rethugs not enlisting????????

i thought they were lining up in long lines!!


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the great patriots that they are????????? :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

ahhhh you must be pulling my leg....i would have thought they would be running to iraq...what with the bullshit they spew..........and how their parents cheer on this war....

ohhh but i know they are too godly to go fight in this war they cheer on!!
now i get it...:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:




silly me...
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[RagingInMiami]

6. The problem with this theory

Is that it also leaves Jeb out in support of the ports' sale with UAE. And despite what he says, you know he's going to run for president.

[yellowdogmi]

7. I have been saying this for a couple of days.

This is Rove's ploy to make repukes look strong on defense and coopertive with us. While dems have been scratching their heads frist came out this morning and took the lead. Plus it let's repukes shed the image of being in lockstep with *. I am glad others are seeing it for what it is. Too bad the dems didn't scream their lungs out over the weekend to get in front of it. Rove's dirty tricks. That is all this is.

[hopeisaplace]

8. or make the ports vulnerable giving you power even when you're out

of power...then Dem's have control..and there's an "attack"..cause perhaps reversing
a deal like this would take too long...leaving a door open for an attack.

I'm so baffled on this.

Maybe the simplest explanation is the best: It's about money, power and control, but
ultimately money.


edit: clarity

[Nutmegger]

9. That makes sense

I originally thought it was a money / Halliburton thingee.

I don't know what to think anymore...

[debbierlus]

10. I don't buy it

Mike is forgetting a KEY Rove factor - he is a BUSH operative NOT a Republican operative. The Republican's in congress are responding this way for their own political survival in an election year.

This is far beyond a Rove trick. This gets into the entire dictatorial takeover of the US by the corporate regime. They are over-reaching. It happens with every corrupt power leadership.

[Ecumenist]

11. Frankly I think that that's giving that idiot WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT

He couldn't plan his way out of a open air tent. From what I read over at the freeperville, this is floating like a lead balloon , so if that what he and the powers that be had planned something as abstract as that, they're playing to the wrong group.

[FreedomAngel82]

12. But you see

they'll swoop in and someone will make legislation (like Lindsay Graham or another republican like him) and than Bill Frist will be all big and macho and "talk" to Bush and they'll be seen as saviors and Haliburton and other Bush friendly groups can quietly get the job. Bush has to stay in until 2008 no matter what. So they will think of the republicans. They did Iraq for the last midterms.

[Ecumenist]

13. The operative term is "that what they DID for the last midterms".

It's no longer working for them, Freedom. Too much water under the bridge and too much naked, unvarnished lying and deception. There has been too much Katrina, Too miuch Halliburton, too much missing 8 billion, too many deaths in a war that was too much of a lie and far too much proof of each and everything that this bunch has done. And Freedom.... too much proof that Idiot the happy monkey and friends have won nothing besides a select few who live in idiotic backwards inbred republican areas. Diebold is what's made the difference and people have caught on in a big way to the voting machines. So, in short, It is no longer working.:hi:

[FreedomAngel82]

15. And that means they won't do it again?

Sorry but I disagree. Rove has done the same type of little stunts over time. Look at how they campaign. Look to Ann Richards, John McCain, Al Gore, John Kerry. He used the same type of technique of campaigning towards all of them. If you think they won't use the same things again that's really naive I think.

[Ecumenist]

18. Freedom, you know what the difference is....

They have been so colossally and overwhelmingly failed at things which have harmed and killed people that even their base can no longer go along with them. I live in a VERY conservative region of California and these people are disgusted in these glorified hillbillies. You see, the lynch pin has been the Katrina debacle and although the majority of the people hurt in the hurricane were either poor and/or black, people are seeing that other Americans are living in 3rd world conditions have finally opened eyes that were purposely shut tight against the crimes committed by this bunch. I literally forced myself to go over to the freeper asylum and these folks finally get it. There was no shortage of comments about bush, limbaugh, etc that were so negative against them that it almost made it seem like DU. This is a change of incredible proportions. And guess what, Freedom? In case you haven't noticed, the rovian tricks that he's been pulling out of his bag in a quest to revive bush's numbers have been as successful as it would be pushing a truck uphill with a rope. I'm not naive, freedom, by any stretch of anyone's imagination but I'm telling you, people remember what they did to the voters in Ohio and the fortean and strangely widespread lack of ballots and "anomalous" changes in precincts, which of course, led to people being unable to vote. NO, Freedom, I am not naive nor am I in denial BUT I know that people are strategising ways to circumvent the machines, as we did here in California 4 months ago. It AIN'T WORKING NO MO', Freedom. People really have tangible things to lose, their jobs, their homes, their freedoms, their children, their health and their very lives. There is no way for them to get away with the same old sh-t again because people to the right, left and the middle will no longer fall for it, no, they are no longer falling for it. I fully expect them to try it but this time, the PEOPLE, no the candidates, the party but WE are fighting for the very life of our country. you can only be shocked with a cattle prod before you understand that the hand holding it is NOT YOUR FRIEND. Unlike bush, people ARE NOT STUPID!!

[LSK]

14. i think Mike is wrong

The Republicans will "wise up" next week when this is no longer on the headlines and the deal will go through.

[FreedomAngel82]

16. Or it'll happen under the radar

[LSK]

17. or they will look mean and tough during a hearing on CSPAN

And then nothing will come of it and the deal will pass anyways.

[Ecumenist]

19. I don't think so fellas...

Not again. They are no longer able to push things through without the limelight of public opinion scrutinising every move. :yoiks: