Will Somebody confirm what I thought I heard on MSNBC?

[Mikimouse]

I was superficially listening to the 'news' while reading the news on the web, and could swear that I heard some fool refering to Milosevic's death as having died in 'captivity'. You know, it is that kind of senseless and sloppy semantic that is going to come back and haunt us in the end. Stupid fucks.

[DS1]

1. He's dead?

[Atman]

2. Wasn't he actually found dead in his prison cell?

Or so they say. Isn't that kind of like behind being in captivity? My dictionary defines it as "the condition of being imprisoned or confined."

(edited to fix bizarro subject line)

[Mikimouse]

4. With all due respect, I have never heard that term used...

to describe the death of a human being. I have heard it used in terms of animals, but not humans. If I am mistaken, please inform me. How would it be if we described those civilan Americans who have died in Iraq as having died in captivity, and let it go at that?

[hlthe2b]

10. Yeah, and since when are humans so much different than

animals? Don't use it for animals either, if you are that sensitive. :eyes:

He was a monster. He was imprisoned on trial for crimes against humanity. He died in his cell--in captivity. That is the truth.

Why get so fixated on semantics?

[Mikimouse]

13. Not sensitive, just mindful of the...

semantics. Many times, I have wanted to make statements that could have been just as thoughtless, but thought better of it, based on the notion that the individual was dead, so why dance on the grave. You do, however, bring up an interesting point. That point is this: At this site, there is always a great deal of banter regarding the tone and SEMANTICS used at other boards or in the media. Interesting that the same approach is not in effect when the situation is reversed. Nobody should complain in the future when things are said about other foreign leaders, or even our own, using semantics that may be distasteful to them. Sematics matter. Do you have a difficulty with your eyes? I noticed that they were rolling and thought i would ask.

[Trajan]

3. Milosevic was a Stalanist Tyrant .....

I shant be crying over his death .... He was vicious, and will not be missed ....

[Mikimouse]

5. Does that make him non-human?

If it does, then I will have no difficulty in changing the tone of my arguments to completely dehumanize those with whom I have a disagreement. I am not defending Milosevic, nor his policies, but let's please remember that he was, after all, human.

[Clark2008]

7. See my below.

It saddens me that, biologically, he is - or most importantly WAS - "human."

[Joe Fields]

11. With all due respect....

In Milosovic's case, it goes way beyond disagreeing with someone. Milosovic, by his unspeakably barbaric actions dehumanized himself. You cannot equate someone's arguments that you may disagree with to the actions of a known barbarian that exhibited no human behavior. He got no sympathy from me. In fact, he probably should have been left to the families of his victims for justice.

[Clark2008]

6. Well, he was hardly a real human.

More like a murderous animal, in the generic sense (I know animals don't "murder").

So, I don't really care if they said he died in captivity. I'm sure the Serbian Muslims are preparing Eid-type feasts at this very moment and dancing in the streets. My husband, who served in the US Army there, pre-war, is tickled shitless over this development. One less murderous thug in the world, says he.

[adarling]

8. its always suspicious when someone like that dies in captivity

they said he had heart problems in the past. Seems fishy though, not sure if they gave an actual account of what he died from. Said in the article that noone knew when he passed. The man was on the same level as Pol Pot and Stalin and Hitler as far as i am concerned and not going to miss him one bit.

[Devlzown]

9. That is an odd choice of words.

I'm used to hearing of some animal in a zoo dying in captivity. I think most people would say that he died in jail or prison or maybe even that he died while incarcerated. To say that something dies in captivity conjures up a certain amount of sympathy for the one being held.

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. He supposedly died of natural causes in his prison cell

[LunaC]

14. He thought he was being poisoned

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-03-11T180658Z_01_L11764575_RTRUKOC_0_UK-WARCRIMES-MILOSEVIC-POISON.xml