hey SKINNER! can we have shamrocks for tomorrow like the hearts

[Lerkfish]

on valentine's day?

I'd donate some to get them to give out...speaking for myself, here. (maybe not enough time for you to work this up..sorry I just now thought of it!)

on edit: some people find this suggestion offensive. I'm sorry to those offended. it was just a thought.

[wicket]

1. Good idea Lerk!

:thumbsup:

[benburch]

2. We could do eggs for Easter... nt

[Mika]

52. Eggs? How about a Christ on a cross?

:evilgrin:

[WiseButAngrySara]

3. It is a VERY good idea! And we need some 'Luck o' the Irish' and 4-leaved

clovers as we might be entering WWIII...

:kick: and R.

[Renew Deal]

4. Shamrocks would be offensive to those that were oppressed by the Irish

:silly:

[Lerkfish]

5. really?

the only thing I know of the irish abused was their own livers. :)

(able to say that as being part irish)

[niyad]

6. for example, the story of patrick chasing the "serpents out of ireland"

actually refers to a holy war, as "serpents" was another name for the indigenous druid religious. the story has nothing to do with reptiles, and everything to do with the christians yet again attacking indigenous belief systems.
so, yes, there are some who probably wouldn't appreciate a shamrock.

[Lerkfish]

13. My apologies.

I did not set out to offend people. Obviously, that's a great deal easier than I even imagined.

[Bridget Burke]

15. Ireland went Christian without violence.

Although Patrick was not the only Christian teacher--or even the first.

[Coexist]

19. And Brigit snuck in under their radar, if the stories are true

http://www.ladybridget.com/brid.html

[Bridget Burke]

25. Yes, indeed!

Quite a few Gods & Goddesses slipped into Christianity in disguise.

Hakim Bey uses a unique variant of the "Driving Out the Snakes" story. But it might upset some earnest neo-Pagans.
www.hermetic.com/bey/blackthorn.html

(My own readings have convinced me that "Celtic" is overused. But Early Irish Christianity did, indeed, have direct links to the African & Asian Churches.)

[Dorian Gray]

22. Wow

I didn't realize the Irish were such notorious suppressors of freedom.

[CJCRANE]

29. But are there that many

descendants of the druids left who bear the grudge?

Sounds a bit obscure.

[bettyellen]

42. well it was totally bloodless, so maybe war is a bit of an overstatement

ya think?

[KyndCulture]

11. LOL

[SoCalDem]

16. Um... How's about leprechauns, then .. a glass of green beer?

[magellan]

27. I am opposed to the color green

It's against my religion.

lol

[phusion]

34. Guinness pints! n/t

[CJCRANE]

30. Like who..?..nt

[Canuckistanian]

7. Sure , he can whip them up in NO time

What's another 18-hour day? I know, let's make them EXPLODING shamrocks that go off whenever a new donation is made.

Computers make things so easy.

Give the guy a break, he works enough miracles around here.

[Lerkfish]

9. I already apologized in the OP for the lateness of my idea

what more do you want?
At least I'm coming up with an idea to help raise money, instead trashing others for doing so.

[WiseButAngrySara]

21. Lerkfish, it's a good idea! And I'm sure Skinner appreciates the thought

even if he can't accomplish it. In terms of Irish History (I'm Scotch/Irish/German/French!), most of their abuse does seems to be self-induced (Civil War(Protestant vs. Catholic)and Liver damage(!))

[Lerkfish]

23. hey, thanks.

:hug:

[Catrina]

67. Shamrocks are great and will offend no one that I know of. I'm Irish, was

born there and may even be a descendent of the Druids for all I know. Christianity was brought to Ireland so it would not have been the Irish who enforced it anyway.

But the story of how it came to Ireland is that St.Patrick was brought to Ireland as a slave when he was a young boy and ended up tending sheep. After he left as an adult, he was converted to Christianity. He never forgot the people of Ireland and had come to love them so much, he came back to bring them Christianity ~

He used the Shamrock, which grew there naturally, to explain what 'trinity' meant. This could all be mythology, but since there is still a St. Patrick's Day, actually celebrating the 'invader' who brought Christianity to Ireland (without any oppression or war) I have never heard anyone in Ireland ever worry that the Shamrock might offend either them or their pagan ancestors. Even the pagans I know there rather like both St. Patrick and the Shamrock.

Maybe we're a little less easily offended than people here seem to be ~ or maybe after so many centuries St. Patrick and his shamrock are just a great excuse for a party, and who wants to be a party pooper?

So I wouldn't worry about the shamrock being offensive to anyone ~ and I think your idea was great ~ I loved the hearts too ~ :-)

[bettyellen]

40. it's not a civil war at all, but an occupation by colonialists....

but thanks for perpetuating two ignorant myths in one post!

[WiseButAngrySara]

50. Gee, thanks for your enlightening remarks...What is your definition of

War? 30 years and thousands of deaths due to religious division in a single country is not a Civil War?

As to the 2nd 'myth' that you are speaking about, I was merely reiterating what the author of this post had previously jested about.

Lerkfish post #5
"the only thing I know of the irish abused was their own livers.

(able to say that as being part irish)"

For a light-hearted post, this thread certainly has generated some ridiculous comments/observations.

[Sullivan4Congress]

54. "a single country"?

Sadly, it's not a single country. Six counties in Northern Ireland remain under British rule and send MPS to Parliament in London, not to the Dail, though the Dublin government has been granted an advisory role in recent years.

[WiseButAngrySara]

57. Thanks for the correction; and it is sad. I'm sure that this enters into

their war, making it much more complex, but I thought that it was primarily a war between Protestants and Catholics. Guess I need to read some history...

[bettyellen]

61. the protestants were not irish, they were given irish people's land that

was stolen by the crown.
so much for the irish "fighting themselves".

[bettyellen]

65. ridiculous is saying 30 years, a single country, that the Protestants

were ever Irish to begin with. Enlightening is certainly what you need!
if you don't know they were planted their by the crown- you don't know much. you do have a lot of reading to do. i don't know why people make wild assumptions here and post them as if they had a clue.
it's not considered a civil war when you fight those who've stolen your land.

[Canuckistanian]

24. I know, I'm just joking

Sorry if I sounded snippy.

[Lerkfish]

32. no problem. all is forgiven. :)

:)

[npincus]

8. how about Hamentashen for Purim?

[Lerkfish]

10. why not?

[niyad]

14. yummmmmmmm

[SoCalDem]

17. Looks like a NASA outerspace photo

[phusion]

36. that looks...sexual.

:evilgrin:

[Blaze Diem]

43. Is that a hamster in a yellow blanket?

Neatly folded yellow blanket, at that!

[rpgamerd00d]

12. How about Beer Mugs? I mean, everyone loves beer. :)

[Pirate Smile]

18. It was a nice idea and I really like it.

It would be a good way for DU to raise some money.

You can't do anything without offending someone around here so I sure hope you don't feel bad.

Some shamrocks for you.

[Lerkfish]

20. awww...thanks!

[Kingshakabobo]

26. I second what Pirate Smile said.

Jeez, sometimes this place reminds me of my 3 dogs fighting over a tiny piece of chew toy. Just for the sake of fighting.

:)

[obreaslan]

28. It has been quite rough around here the last few weeks, hasn't it.

Well, I liked the shamrock idea. Although, it would be hard to get done by tomorrow.

Oh well, peace and fuzzy bunnies to all...:hide:

[Kingshakabobo]

45. My Great Great Grandmother was killed by fuzzy bunnies.

Much too painful to talk about........

[Flying Dream Blues]

59. That about sums it up. But sorry for your loss, Kingshakabobo. :)

[obreaslan]

70. I'm offended!!!

My Fuzzy Bunnies were killed by a Great Great Grandmother! You can be so insensitive sometimes!! :cry:





:hi:

[phusion]

31. Especially in light of the journals they have worked

so hard to give us, I think they deserve some donations!

[CJCRANE]

33. I wouldn't worry

too much about people being offended. I haven't seen one valid reason put forward yet.

Unless some Northern Irish Protestants come forward, I can't really see who it might offend.

[northzax]

37. if you get shamrocks

I want little orange ribbons.

and yes, I am just causing trouble.

[CJCRANE]

46. Will a little Union Jack do?

Long live the Queen!

;)

[Pirate Smile]

55. Boo Hiss!!!!

[Rainscents]

35. I like this idea!

[blue neen]

38. It was a nice idea Lerkfish.

Kudos to you for trying to help. :toast:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

39. sham rocks = faux stones?

No offense taken for the green leaf idea here. I love staying sober during this weakened. Just observing the amateurs is entertainment enough.

[Skinner]

41. I'm not sure we can do it.

I think it might be a little too late.

[Blaze Diem]

44. yep, that's exactly what my boyfriend said about our last EPT test

too late.

[Lerkfish]

47. ok, I realized that might be the case. thanks for listening, though!

maybe I'll do my own version tomorrow if'n I have time.

[havocmom]

56. LOL Do you have time to devise some April Fools?

;) Seems more fitting anyway.

[hootinholler]

60. Jesters? n/t

[havocmom]

69. Little jesters would work, if they have time and inclination

before 4-1. Being able to call somebody a fool by donating could be most interesting :evilgrin:

[Dem2theMax]

48. We can't use these to donate, but you can certainly use this tomorrow.

How's that for a shamrock? Blowing kisses shamrocks for all DU'ers!

[Lerkfish]

51. excellent! great!

[Carla in Ca]

53. Hey, Dem

Those are wonderful smilies! Here is one for you.

[Dem2theMax]

62. Carla!

You know me. Hunting down those smilies wherever I can. :)

I love the one you posted. (He's winking at me.)

How are you? I have to get myself to the forum. I hear you need someone for Wednesdays. Let me try to get caught up on a few things and I'll start posting. How's that sound? It won't be for a week or so, but as that idiot in Sacramento says, I'll be back. LOL.

[Carla in Ca]

71. Dem, you come back when you feel like it

We all just miss you so much. See you soon, friend.

[LSK]

49. that was a good idea Lerkfish n/t

[YellowRubberDuckie]

58. Oh yea! Another popularity contest!

I could use something else to tell me how uncool I am! :eyes:
Duckie

[Katherine Brengle]

64. lol... one way of looking at it i guess...

i didn't get any hearts until the last two days last time... but it was still fun...

[Blue-Jay]

63. For Easter we can have little tiny Jesuses.

Jesi?

[Coexist]

66. ... um - that isn't his birthday, its his

RESURRECTION day!

[mondo joe]

68. Also, little sardines for St Joseph's day please. n/t