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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:47 PM Original message |
Poll question: Why do leading Democrats lie about the Iraq invasion? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wrote Ray McGovern about an angle on this-- |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
2. show me the money n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
3. They listened to Scott Ritter |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Link please |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. It was in his 1998 testimony to a Senate hearing on Iraq. |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Almost all of them |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. No way. Not after weapons inspections for two months came up with nothing |
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Terran1212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 04:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
58. And most of them still dont' regret voting for the war -- what about them? |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 01:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
40. Clinton didn't invade, but he bombed the hell out of the facilities, |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
57. And the only way to make certain those targets took out the WMDs was to |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Link? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. He resigned because of that belief |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Right, it had no bearing on his beliefs about this invasion. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. He was in a position to know and |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Pretending that a statement made in 1998 describes |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. No one said he supported the invasion. He asserted they had WMD. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. No he did not say that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 03:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
49. No. That's flat out wrong. n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. So we just use run-up to the war intelligence? |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. What Ritter actually said was the opposite of what you claimed. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:32 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Congressional Testimony |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Incredible! |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Supporting inspections is the point |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 12:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. the inspectors were allowed in, bush invaded ILLEGALLY, why won't they say |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Now you want to characterize the invasion |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Leading Dems did not support war. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 01:23 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Your OP says lying about the invasion |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Your OP claims "They listened to Scott Ritter" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 02:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. The WHOLE truth |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 02:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Your reference to Ritter had nothing to do with |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 03:33 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I listed several points |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 03:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. You claim the vote to slaughter Iraqis was actually |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 04:11 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You listed 5 reasons |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 04:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. So you claim Ritter fooled them with his 1998 comments |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 04:52 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No I didn't claim that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 03:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. Scott said he could not guarantee. That's a universe away |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 03:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Could not guarantee |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is America, where it's all about the money. |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. It is NOT all about the money... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. greg palast has a new column on the oil machinations |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
8. Of course there is always the sixth point: |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. The question was about why they do not mention the PNAC |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. One person was pretty clear |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. I see. So it was a rhetorical question |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. They Were Afraid Of Being Labeled "Weak" on Terror |
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Danieljay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. 6. Because they are spineless dillweeds! DINOS! n/t |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. That's a pretty broad brush accusation - "leading Dems lie". |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Is your position that they didn't know about the PNAC plan? |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. No, my assertion is that saying they're all liars is a broad |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. "Intentional complicity" was only one (or two) of the options in the poll |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 12:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Yeah, there seems to be a genuine reluctance across society |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'd say they agree with it |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. True Confession: |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-20-06 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. For many, cowardice or political advantage. |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
38. I hate to say I voted second to last. I have absolutely no faith left |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 02:49 AM Response to Reply #38 |
46. And power is an aphrodisiac |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 06:44 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Votes against the IWR |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Their votes should be respected. |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Voting against the Iraq war isn't enough IMO... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Mar-21-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
60. One component missing from all choices. |
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