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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:29 AM Original message |
Pat Tillman's Dad Suspects Killing was Intentional |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. wow. |
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NoAmericanTaliban
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Believe he was killed in the same week as the Abu Grab |
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BrklynLiberal
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. Absolutely. Hope his father hits the media big time!!! |
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splat
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Did they not like the guy? Anybody know? n/t |
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MadMaddie
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Not long after Tillman arrived at his destination.... |
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katty
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
76. heard/read that as well... |
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galatea
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
155. what took him so long |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. He was a very vocal about his disgust with the war... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
154. Deleted message |
nonconformist
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:34 PM Response to Reply #154 |
166. He signed up for Afghanistan |
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galatea
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Chomsky never thought |
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omulcol
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Thu Mar-23-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #169 |
181. And the OPIUM ! |
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Shakespeare
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #154 |
173. Just because Chomsky was one of his heroes.... |
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galatea
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:54 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. He would still be alive today |
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Kurovski
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
58. He would have been a very high-profile war dissenter. |
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bush_is_wacko
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
111. I also believe he was executed and wonder why his family and the media |
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fooj
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. LOL!!! Thanks for the clarification. |
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Brothaman2k
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
144. No, they don't like dissent |
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coalition_unwilling
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
78. Tillman was against the Iraq boondoggle (n/t) |
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MadMaddie
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yea, I am starting to believe Pat T was executed..... |
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wordpix2
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
72. could be, I don't dismiss any possible evildoing by BushCo---look at Plame |
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blm
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
4. Tillman was going to be a HUGE threat to BushInc's power. |
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opihimoimoi
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:37 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Holy Bat Shit gonna hit the fan soon.... |
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OzarkDem
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Slow- walking the investigation |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Gee, ya think? |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Sen Wellstone comes to mind. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Big time!! |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
109. I still can't believe he is gone. Rat bastard **! |
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Left Is Write
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Wed Mar-22-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
176. Bingo. |
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madmunchie
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. I hope that isn't a serious question |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I take it as a serious question. |
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blm
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. The shame is that it's VALID to ask with this group of thugs. |
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madmunchie
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
90. Ugh, * has thousands dying to prove his ideology in addition to |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Hope you don't mind me jumping in here... |
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madmunchie
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. Thank you, that is what I wasn't sure of. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. You're welcome! n/t |
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blm
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Wed Mar-22-06 10:15 AM Response to Reply #93 |
160. Whenever it comes to BushInc I assume the worst of them, and eventually |
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timtom
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Wed Mar-22-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #92 |
150. Permit me to interject... |
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sheelz
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
53. And the stinkin media wasn't a threat either... |
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AX10
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
5. Because he was a Democrat. |
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dogday
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
7. Freaking 3 shots to the head |
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EFerrari
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Wouldn't that be very hard to do accidently? n/t |
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dogday
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
25. That's what I am thinking |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. I'm believe they are all trained sharpshooters... |
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fooj
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
113. Sure as hell sounds like it to me. |
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Sequoia
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
26. That's an ug...cute...ummm....kitten. |
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malmapus
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Could be tight shot group |
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Stand and Fight
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
82. That would be the M-4 more than likely... |
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malmapus
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Yeah, I can't imagine Pat standing out either to make himself a better |
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Stand and Fight
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
119. Three rounds and not in burst? |
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OG Yankee Patriot
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Wed Mar-22-06 05:32 PM Response to Reply #82 |
177. Any Soldier Knows - PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
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OG Yankee Patriot
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Wed Mar-22-06 05:34 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Pat Tillman Murder Coverup - Link |
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omulcol
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Thu Mar-23-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #177 |
182. PAT TILLMAN WAS MURDERED |
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Aviation Pro
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Wed Mar-22-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
175. M-4 |
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wicket
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
55. The whole time he was yelling "I'm Pat Fucking Tillman!" |
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Peter Frank
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
145. WTF Indeed... |
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sasha031
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
8. a real tragedy |
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I had read that elsewhere also. Noam Chomsky meeting nt |
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bbernardini
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. Why does Pat Tillman's dad hate America? nt |
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LiberalinNC
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
15. Why did they burn his armor and uniform???? |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:43 AM Original message |
Why did they burn his diary? |
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wordpix2
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. they said it had blood and was starting to smell---that's plausible |
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LiberalinNC
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. So because it smelled "bad" it's ok to burn evidence???? |
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kayice
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:39 AM Response to Reply #68 |
131. I read they burnt his armour right away too. |
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Stand and Fight
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Bullshit. |
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yardwork
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Thu Mar-23-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #67 |
180. That makes no sense - all battlefields smell |
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quiet.american
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
18. Typically, Rumsfeld has his priorities wrong. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Unfortunately, the depths to which this administration sinks... |
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Minstrel Boy
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
19. He had meeting scheduled with Chomsky, said war "so fucking illegal" |
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Lucky Luciano
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
130. Wow...new respect |
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liberalcanuck
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
168. Thanks for the link. Shame on those in this administration! Shame! |
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femrap
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
20. OMG....the Truth can be silenced for only so long.... |
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malaise
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #20 |
61. Impeach these fuggers |
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sheelz
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
21. He was killed for Propaganda! |
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joeunderdog
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. And how about those mysterious deaths of Jessica Lynch's pals? |
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sheelz
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. The problem is general public doesn't get the updated story. |
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Nabia2004
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
89. thanks for the link, fascinating article - nt |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
100. I didn't know about that, geez, is there no end?nt |
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Sequoia
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
22. That's what I thought |
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genie_weenie
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
23. Of course, no one in the MSM |
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EFerrari
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:47 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Unless one or more members of his unit were handlers. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
101. this was an above the fold NYT story |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
24. His refusal to be a poster boy infuriated someone. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. Makes you wonder if this was to silence Pat and also a |
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riona
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. another Interesting article on this |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. And with these revelations... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
33. didn't he hope to meet up with Chomsky in the states? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
37. "Guns don't kill people.." |
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Redstone
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. I absolutely HATE conspiracy-nut stuff. But this? Makes me think. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
65. I'm not a tin-foil hatter either... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. I just have a problem with the conspiracy theory |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. When he enlisted, it was huge news on all the MSM. |
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Brothaman2k
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
146. I'm with you |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
103. There's nothing 'nutty' about fragging |
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MadisonProgressive
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. An order from Rumsfeld, I'm sure.. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. The question now begs the answer. Was Pat disliked by his |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Other |
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kayice
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
134. Certain career Special Forces....yeah, I could see them doing it. |
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Octafish
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. This story breaks my heart. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Yours and mine Octafish |
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EFerrari
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Mine, too. He was really something special. |
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Octafish
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
45. This story breaks my heart. |
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malmapus
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Tue Mar-21-06 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
46. I want to say his killing was a tragic accident in combat |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. Since I've never fired a gun in my entire life... |
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malmapus
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. Welcome, was kinda hoping some other DU vets might chime in |
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
85. All it takes is one BFEE/CIA assassin, planted in the unit. |
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Kansas Wyatt
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
115. Yep, and have access to everything and anything. |
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RBHam
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
48. Who Killed Pat Tillman? |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. You see, you don't need DIRECT EVIDENCE of a conspiracy - |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Like father, like son. His son would be proud of him for risking his own |
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Tue Mar-21-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
87. Hear! Hear! |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
52. K&R. If there is a diary availalbe and it says this...OMf'ingG!!! n/t |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. That diary would have been burned with everything else. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. They definitely did not want his diary to become public knowledge. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
54. Here's the fake story cooked up by the DOD, as reported on 4/30/2004... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. This kind of lying should be a prosecutable offense |
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Neil Lisst
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
57. I felt it was probably intentional from day one. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. why? When I read this article it seemed that Tillman could have been shot |
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wordpix2
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. OK now I've read earlier part of thread and see he was a dissenter |
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Neil Lisst
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:42 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. because he's the kind of guy someone will really hate |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #77 |
105. That's some synchronisation. Even two bullets. |
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Neil Lisst
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. maybe on your home planet, but here on earth ... |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #116 |
159. I didn't deny that some individuals might have hated him. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
62. That'll teach him to back Kerry |
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glitch
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
63. It wasn't just an execution - that can be made to look like an accident. |
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VolcanoJen
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. OMG. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Horrific and heartbreaking. |
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Raine
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Tue Mar-21-06 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
79. They "Wellstoned" |
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Nimrod2005
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Tue Mar-21-06 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
86. THEY DID KILL HIM...Rummy Cheney and Co. the Bush crime family needed |
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SeattleGirl
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Tue Mar-21-06 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
91. My God, this is so f-ing sickening! |
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blondeatlast
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
95. Good God. I generally run from conspiracy theories, but this one |
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RBHam
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Here's some substance. Conspiracy Fact. |
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NightOwwl
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. I'm not a conspiracy theorist either... |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
97. Most powerful question: "Why do you need to hide an accident" |
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. I wouldn't be surprised if they fragged him... |
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Joe Chi Minh
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. One word: Bollocks. |
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tom_paine
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Tue Mar-21-06 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
102. 99% chance Pat was murdered by the Imperial Family |
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Usrename
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Tue Mar-21-06 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
107. By all accounts he was one of our best and brightest, a shame. |
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CoffeeCat
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
108. This is very tragic...and it's a no brainer... |
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bobbieinok
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Thu Mar-23-06 04:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
183. witness soldiers GOT THE MESSAGE....we'll take out anyone |
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LynnTheDem
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
110. And some US troops agree with Tillman's dad. |
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Tue Mar-21-06 09:46 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. Heartache on heartache. nt |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
117. Dons flame retardant |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:24 AM Response to Reply #117 |
128. If I understand right |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #128 |
133. I still doubt they could have convinced soldiers to kill him |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:37 PM Response to Reply #133 |
167. who "they"? You misunderstand. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Sorry still don't buy it. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #117 |
138. He went to fight a war he DID believe in - I think |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #138 |
171. Well as I've been saying I've spoken to other |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:58 AM Response to Reply #117 |
157. Many of us have managed to recover from our High School traumas. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
172. MAybe he was, I didn't know him but I still say |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
118. The title of your post isn't true |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
120. I'm beginning to think conservatives don't support the troops |
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Tue Mar-21-06 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
121. Ive always thought it was intentional |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
122. I spoke up about this a good while ago and got accused of wearing a |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:08 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Too hip for the crowd always needs aflame proof suit |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. LOL! I've gone through a couple of flame proof suits on this board. n/t |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. There is nothing in the article to indicate that... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #124 |
129. I've read the reports, not just this article. There are some very serious |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Army Rangers are expert shooters... |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:17 AM Response to Reply #132 |
152. Sorry, Rangers are not that good. Even one of the best snipers wouldn't |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:52 AM Response to Reply #124 |
135. You really can't prove intentions very well, huh? n/t |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #135 |
136. No more than anyone can say it was intentional n/t |
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Wed Mar-22-06 06:28 AM Response to Reply #124 |
151. The father does not think it was gross negligence. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:53 AM Response to Reply #122 |
156. wear it with pride |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
125. Thank you for posting this. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
127. No death is more painful than the death of a child |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
137. Lesson: US military is a right wing organization. No lefties need apply. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. No, it is not |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #139 |
140. You're right about the numbers but that doesn't reflect |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. The policy makers are the politicians who run the country |
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:06 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. "don't ask, don't tell" is not only weak but dangerous. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #140 |
148. Not right at all. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:34 AM Response to Reply #139 |
147. GOP has 4 to 1 majority in military. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 03:40 AM Response to Reply #147 |
149. LOL |
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Wed Mar-22-06 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
143. Diary burned. Uniform and body armor burned. This cannot go unanswered. nt |
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Wed Mar-22-06 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
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Wed Mar-22-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #153 |
158. Around here, we don't believe soldiers are "contract killers". That's |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. PeaceBaby, I understand why you object to labeling people who join the |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #158 |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
161. In the end Pat will be demonized, his family destroyed. |
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Wed Mar-22-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
162. This is so sad. I read the bogus "accident" story about a year ago in WaP |
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Wed Mar-22-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
165. kick |
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Wed Mar-22-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
179. Conspiracy nuts! |
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