"Is There A War On Christianity?" on C-SPAN W.J.

[Ufomammut]

Anybody getting an ear-full of these head cases this morning?

[shenmue]

1. No, there's not.

Idiots.

:dunce:

:crazy:

[shadowknows69]

2. watching it

yeah that was an interesting segment.

[Ufomammut]

3. I'd say there's a collective attack on "Christianity" by "Christians"...

If you follow.

[Dr.Phool]

4. So many Christians

So few lions.:evilgrin:

[shadowknows69]

8. I can't believe

that a group of people that worship a supposedly all powerful deity are so concerned about his welfare all the time.

[Ufomammut]

19. Yet necessarily "speak for him" also...

[baby_mouse]

5. No there's a war on STUPIDITY.

There's a war on fucking MORONS spurting their garbage out of their puny, disgusting little minds like fermented demon jizz, blurting their revolting, half-processed, sicko mind-poison over the whole world, shitting on everybody with their fucked up self-image problems. GO TO HELL, dicks-for-brains, guess what -

EVERYBODY HATES YOU.

"mmeeeeeeeeeeh GAYS"
"mmeeeeeeeeeeh LIBRULS"
"mmeeeeeeeeeeh TURRRRRRISTS"
"mmeeeeeeeeeeh PARTISAN"
"mmeeeeeeeeeeh, mmeeeeeeeeh, mmeeeeeeeeh...." fucking bleating pieces of CRAP. I'm SICK of hearing about them.

"Me, me, me, me, me, what about MEEEEEEE"

[darkmaestro019]

10. (sigh, beam) I like you. Oh how I like you. : ) (nt)

[ClintonTyree]

15. You can't continue to bottle up your feelings, baby_mouse....

you have to let it all pour out sometimes. And stop sugar-coating your opinions, let us know how you REALLY think. ;)

[baby_mouse]

51. I did feel slightly better.

But only slightly.

:grr:

[anniebelle]

20. Absolutely! n/t

[anniebelle]

27. How 'bout the anthropology professor with her facts,

pulled right out of limbaugh's butt I'd say, but she couldn't remember where she got the "statistics" to support her drivel that more Democrats have abortions than repugs. I'm ready to explode from this gang of retards. :banghead:

[Ufomammut]

35. There's always that telling inflection....

That begs, "Let's not get bogged down with boring, unimportant facts."

[newyawker99]

54. Hi anniebelle!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Timbuk3]

6. Didn't see the C-Span segment

But I drive by plenty of churches on my way to work every day.

Are they going to complain about easter eggs and easter rabbits, next?

The GOP would have no votes at all without this kind of paranoia and persecution complex.

[mwb970]

45. I know a fundie who won't let his kids say the word "Easter".

It's derived from the name of Astarte, a pagan god, so his kids have to call it the "Feast Of the Resurrected Lamb" or some such inanity.

The same guy won't let his kids go trick-or-treating (pagans again) - and boy does he HATE the Clintons!

They're crazy. I really see no other explanation.

[Timbuk3]

61. I think you'd enjoy this Kos post

and the comments.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/28/6342/51190

[AllieB]

7. No, but there's a war on non-Christians and non-evangelicals

:puke:

I can't handle WJ in the morning.

[Ufomammut]

12. It must unconsciously appeal to a masochistic bent of mine LOL

[AllieB]

14. Sometimes I think they've set up speed-dial

from an institution for the religiously and politically insane.

[Ufomammut]

18. Oh, if only we were dealing with a "contained" segment of the populace!

[NVMojo]

9. there will be if the fundie extremists don't get the f out of our faces

with their controlling crap over our personal lives in this country.

[Ufomammut]

16. Yeah, a self-proclaimed atheist called in and...

Proclaimed pretty much the same thing ...that he had declared war on the right wing Christians who, because their "faith" is manipulated and exploited for political gain, are threatening civilization on numerous levels.

[0007]

48. Sound like that self proclaimed atheist got it right!

[ClintonTyree]

11. A war By christianity perhaps......

on everything that doesn't fit into their extremely narrow point of view. The "persecuted christian" thing is getting a but tiresome, they started the pushing by attempting to assert their beliefs into our government, and they cry like babies when anyone pushes back, even ever so slightly. Wackos! :eyes:

[Kailassa]

13. No, there is a war on Christ, being conducted by "Christians."

My atheist friends have never attacked Christianity around me, but many of the Christians I meet on the internet attack everything Christ stood for.

[blondeatlast]

21. They shrilly complain about every supposed injustice done to THEM.

It makes every Christian look bad in the process and exposes the admitted weaknesses in the Bible all the more.


BTW, I consider myself to be a Christian and abhor their tactics and agenda.

[Ufomammut]

24. Precisely - it's a psychologically "projective" movement...

They impute to others what they themselves are most guilty of, and on an unconscious level, fearful of.

[DoYouEverWonder]

31. That's because they don't follow the teachings of Jesus

They are too busy plucking tidbits from the Old Testament and the writings of Paul of Tarsus that they never bother with what Jesus taught.

[Cassandra]

37. They take the Old Testament much more literally...

than Jews do. Even the Hasidim don't think about stoning people.

Edit: I can't spell this morning.

[DoYouEverWonder]

43. I think it is rather humorous

to hear Christians using the Old Testament. If they followed Jesus's teachings they would know that one of the big ones is that he was the fulfillment of the OT. The old rules no longer applied. Oops, I guess they forgot to read that part.

[FatDave]

52. You know what to say when a Christian quotes the Old Testament?

"Do you use separate dishes for meat and dairy products? THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

[DoYouEverWonder]

53. I usually ask

I didn't know you were Jewish?

[kestrel91316]

55. I wonder if these nutcases advocate stoning people who

eat shellfish, or wear cotton-poly blends?????

[Ufomammut]

39. For them, there is no fun in what Jesus stood for...

Much less "projection" within tolerance, peace and understanding.

[noahmijo]

17. I wish there was a war on Christianity in this country

The type of war not waged with gunshots but the type that forces the power holding base to be accountable for the actions and harm they've caused humanity. Likewise they should be doing the same thing only with Islam in the middle east.

Without apology I say the institution of religion is the most corrupt organization with more blood on its hands than any single other body.

[BlueEyedSon]

22. There was only one true Christian, and he died on the cross.

-- Friedrich Nietzsche

[Ufomammut]

26. Apt quote

[vptpt]

23. There have been wars because of Christianity

It only seems fair that there should someday be a war on Christianity.

[SHRED]

25. Oh for Christ's sake

Another stupid "war".

There is a real war and it is the one waged by the Christian RW against tolerance, understanding, love, peace, and everything that Jesus stood for.

I thought C-SPAN was above this moronic labeling bullshit?

[AndyA]

28. It depends on whose Christianity you're referring to

If it's the evangelicals, like Dobson, Robertson, etc., I think there may be a war coming. They don't really represent God or the teachings of The Bible. They promote hatred, discrimination. They judge others. They cast the first stone. They do not turn the other cheek. They are only Christians because they say they are. And people believe them, without questioning why they aren't very God like.

But the true Christians, who try to do what The Bible says are a completely different group. They try not to judge others. They try to give others the benefit of the doubt, and they largely are not happy with what they see from the others. They know it is wrong to condemn others, even if they are viewed as doing something wrong.

I think the true Christians are going to have to say anything other than what is taught in The Bible is not Christian. The do as I say, not as I do crowd needs to stop proclaiming themselves as Christians. They are most definitely not Christians except by their own standards.

[Ufomammut]

33. So the 'anti-Christ' movement does indeed come in false "peace"

That is, under false pretenses ...the "white" horse with the figure bearing a bow, yet no arrows.

[AndyA]

40. Look at what they do and say and compare that to what you know to be true

You will soon see that they couldn't be further removed from the truth. People do not question this, they accept it and believe (or convince themselves) that they are doing the right thing.

They need to remember about the false prophet and the wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Ufomammut]

44. That they *don't* I fear is the whole point

Thee point, if you will.

[AndyA]

56. Gotcha - that is thee point exactly! LOL! n/m

[Minnesota Libra]

29. How about an over all war on Religious Hypocracy itself?? nt

[Cassandra]

30. Really brought out the nutcases, didn't it?

Including that guy who said that Jews in Congress supported an anti-Christian bill, and the lemon-sucking biddy who believed abortion was evil because she had had one and thought it was awful. And since when are the ten commandments owned by Christians?

[Ufomammut]

34. And as a bonus co-inkydink....

These types almost inevitably slavishly support the Bushco. Hmmm.....

[Cassandra]

36. You noticed that.

Somewhere in their bibles is the commandment, Thou shalt be a Republican and shit on everyone else.

[DoYouEverWonder]

32. For people of such great 'faith'

they sure are a sensitive bunch.

[The Backlash Cometh]

38. Well, there's a war within Christianity.

Looks like the old testamenters vs. the new testamenters. You have the Vatican coming out and claiming that evolution is okay, you have an Archbishop telling the nutty right-wing Christians to stop teaching creationism...

[sendero]

41. Like god would need..

... a bunch of delusional whining douchebags to fight his battles. Yeah, right.

[mmonk]

42. There is a war. So called Christianity's war

on the rest of us and the Constitution.

[xchrom]

46. it was pretty insane.

i think c-pan is losing it -- they have been on the conservative war path for months now.

then they got busted by fair.org -- and their questions have been getting more bizarre and their conservative guest list is fairly popping at the seams.

[DanCa]

47. It's the prolife people enforcing thier laws on every one.

I love the christian left with all my heart, but I despise anyone who thinks that an embryo and a fetus is more important than an actual human being.

[C_U_L8R]

49. Yes there is a war on Chrisitianity

In fact the it looks like the enemy of Christianity is winning.

TV preachers, freeepers, fundies, pharisees, philistines, snake oil salesman,
hucksters, and self absorbed power mad politicians have hijacked and
distorted the WORD and replaced it with MONEY.

These so called "christians" worship new gods -- HATE GREED WAR & INTOLERANCE
It would not surprise me one bit if they all sprout horns and pointy tails.
A curse upon them all

[theobscure]

60. new gods?

I wouldn't exactly call HATE GREED WAR & INTOLERANCE "new" gods. They have been around since the very inception of organized religion. In fact, these "gods" were the very inspiration for religion's creation and the only justification for it's continued existence.

[July]

50. Yes.

But not here.

I suggest these persecuted Christoids go to China or Afghanistan to find what they're looking for (victimhood).

But in a country where there's a Christian church on every other corner and the squatter in the White House loudly proclaims his Christian belief, they've only got martyrdom "lite." Very, very "lite."

[Beelzebud]

57. Those poor white chrisitans just can't catch a break in the U.S.

/me pukes.

Maybe since they're fighting this imaginary "war", we should make it a reality for them?

[BiggJawn]

58. S'Yeah, right...3% of Us against 85% of THEM.

Really great odds there.

I have come to the realization that the so-called "War on Christianity" is a Dominionist-inspired media smokescreen designed to draw attention away from the Taliban-isation of America by the Rushdooney Right...

According to the U of Minn, 65% of people hate me and other Atheists MORE than they hate Gays.
And we (the self-identifying Atheists) amount to only about 3% of the population, while self-identified Christians make up around 85%.

Now, I don't know about you, but if I'm so all-fired POWERFUL to wage "war" on 85% of the population with only 3% of the people with me, why ain't I telling TinMan Cheney what to do?

Y'know, the "flock" parable is very appropo here, because if you 85%'ers think 3% are at "war" with you, then you really ARE "sheep".

Pay no attention to that nice old man on TV who tells you how to raise your kids in a minute (Dobson). He's looking out for Murka.

[Rocknrule]

59. Is there a war BY Christianity against the rest of the world? Hell yes!