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Jon8503
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:07 AM Original message |
More on Duke Lacrosse Rape Case |
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fasttense
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. I've been following this closely. |
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supernova
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I live near Duke |
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Pachamama
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Don't judge Duke just yet....see how they handle this first... |
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Jon8503
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
103. Fasttense, I posted this but it was not a post against Duke. It is a grea |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. I posted a thread about it in LBN last night |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. This is disgusting -- |
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Pachamama
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. This story makes my blood boil on so many levels...these members of the |
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itzamirakul
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:43 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I don't think we have to worry about any of the young men being |
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supernova
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:47 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Which was even more important |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. This is already happening -- |
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elehhhhna
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. FINE> Let's shine some light on cuts to student grants & loans and how |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Do they also call her "college student"? Because in NC they are |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. All I was saying is... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. No, KB... I was just skiing if asking national news was mentioning this |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. OH! As far as I know, yeah. |
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adriennui
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. not every person who attends duke is a millionaire |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I would agree, except it's the Lacrosse team |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. the lacrosse players are always the most notorious "bad boys" |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. They were at my high school, too... and that was 1978-82 |
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Left Is Write
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM Original message |
My daughter played lacrosse her junior and senior years... |
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Pachamama
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I got to disagree with you there... |
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VelmaD
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. a gender hate crime as well |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
68. I don't disagree with you -- I've debated this with friends before |
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dogday
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
6. I say hang the offenders by their gonads |
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madokie
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. Yea, like slit their bag and stick their leg through it. |
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Jack from Charlotte
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Thu Mar-30-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
38. Before they're charged and tried? * |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
77. We're not on the jury, this is a public discussion board, we're discussing |
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KamaAina
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
98. But you'd need some really, really fine thread to do that |
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Ignacio Upton
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
7. Another reason to dislike Duke |
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supernova
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The relationship can be contentious at times |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:20 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. There has always been alot of anti "townie" feelings at Duke |
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LiberalPartisan
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Back in the 80s |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. I Read a book by an ex-admissions official who said that exact thing |
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Ignacio Upton
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
99. I'm not from NC and have never attended college there |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. It is a cool college town -- like Charlottesville, how Elon used to be, et |
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SheepyMcSheepster
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. This is a terrible story |
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Ignacio Upton
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:58 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Do you think that Rita and Gretta will take time to cover a BLACK girl? |
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LisaL
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I am pretty sure she would find time to cover this one. |
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ms liberty
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Thu Mar-30-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Raspy Rita's been all over it... |
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Radio_Guy
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
21. 20 & 15 |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. I agree with that as a minimum |
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Iris
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. I like the way you think, Radio_Guy |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
24. What the hell ever happened to INNOCENT UNTIL PR OVEN |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Two things |
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Radio_Guy
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Indeed, we are not in the jury pool |
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Jack from Charlotte
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Thu Mar-30-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. What are you bitching about? Isn't law enforcement proceeding with... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
75. He isn't "bitching" about anything, he's responding to the other poster |
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NaturalHigh
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Thu Mar-30-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. So far, all of the players are saying that they did not... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Why is that a strange stance? Whoever says they're guilty? |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Your stereotyping of the situation is what is strange. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
81. My, my let's slag the victim -- I believe the defense attorney and the DA |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:17 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. like what? |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
87. "Seeking out the newspaper" |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
141. Innocent until proven guilty? That's a quaint idea. |
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AngryAmish
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
27. Duke has never lost ther entebellum attitude |
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peaches2003
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
96. HUH? |
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KamaAina
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
102. About a third of these Duke lacrosse players are from Long Island |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. And by reading most of these post I guess all young men who play |
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Thu Mar-30-06 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
34. Deleted sub-thread |
Jon8503
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Thu Mar-30-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
36. Raleigh Durham News & Observer reports : |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Oh, now there's a fine group of young men. |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I wonder how many college students have been convicted |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I went to college and I wasn't - nor were any of my friends |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Honey I can't tell you how many times police showed up |
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dsc
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:32 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. Newsflash |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Yes we weren't caught |
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dsc
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #76 |
114. And again |
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Jack from Charlotte
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Underaged drinking? The horror. This is proof there are rapist..... |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #36 |
142. almost a third! OMG! public drinking! |
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Bake
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Thu Mar-30-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
39. Obvious that SOMEBODY'S lying. |
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Jersey Devil
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
42. young guys + alcohol + strippers = trouble |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. "that they were strippers should at least give rise to some pause "?? |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I question it because of she went immediately to the newspaper. |
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Mandate My Ass
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. There is no "typical" rape response |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Went to the newspaper? |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. read it for yourself: |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Yeah I read it |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. how does it refute it she spoke with the newspaper? |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Let me repeat your claim from post #51 |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. ok i'll take immedaitely back I still find it odd that she went to the |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Deleted sub-thread |
Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. The "typical response" of a rape victim in this country is to... |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
90. You are 100% right... of the women I know who who raped |
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. The article doesn't say that. |
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elehhhhna
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Uh, she went to the hospital & police. |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. then the newspaper |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. She consented to an interview. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. Her attorney probably set it up, with the okay (and maybe even |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. I can't imagine an attorney advising either side to do that. |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. If she wanted to get her side of the story out, of course she would |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. iI have not seen one bad thing reported about htis woman. i also have not |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #115 |
127. Well I'm not in that area so I have to trust you on that |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. Live in NC and has been on this news and in the papers daily. The team has |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. She went to the newspaper? or a reporter found her? |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. So, do you have a response to your ridiculous claim? |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. check out post 90 |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I did and responded |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
89. She's a single mom supporting her kids and putting her way through |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. So because she is a stripper who's trying to earn a living and support her |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
91. Yes - I am a skeptic. I examine the facts closely and do not |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:51 PM Response to Reply #91 |
111. Thank you for those sound and sane comments on the topic. |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. do you have a link to the transcript of the 911 call? |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. no, sorry I don't |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. what did it consist of if you can remember |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. My thought also but apparently not in this case. |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
70. We also have posters |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. You know what Fred I don't know what your problem is but a personal attack |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:10 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. OK, I'll stop when you stop posting bullshit claims about rape victims |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. the only thing I posted that was incorrect was one word what else have I |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
105. As if |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Take him to the woodshed, Fred! You go, boy! |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. i am not a man |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
116. I agree |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. wow we agree on something here tonite, a miracle |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. well i hope you are never the victim of a false accusation that ruins your |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. I doubt that....I lead a good moral life |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #117 |
121. i have made no accusation against her, that is where you are wrong |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Need I remind you? |
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Beaverhausen
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. NICE!!! |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
139. You're correct. |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. "presumption of innocence" vs. "blaming the victim" |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
143. In answer to your question, NO |
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dsc
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. The coverage down here (NC) has been very anti the team |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #63 |
95. That's what my mom (in NC) has said, too... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #63 |
106. It's probably more anit-team BECAUSE the women were NOT white. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
78. Duke lacrosse = circle jerks |
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DURHAM D
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
82. Duke University will work with the team to cover up this matter. |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
100. *gasp* I hadn't heard that about the house! |
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peaches2003
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
109. Wrong |
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DURHAM D
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:59 PM Response to Reply #109 |
118. Wrong back. eom |
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LostinVA
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
92. Thanks to the real men on here tonight who aren't letting the |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #92 |
124. Nothing makes me angrier than blaming the victim |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #124 |
144. but we don't know yet who the victim is until the facts are in |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. You still here? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #92 |
132. Seconded. |
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Jersey Devil
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
126. Something else strange about this case |
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DURHAM D
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. The women were told it was a bachelor party and only 4-5 guys |
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Jersey Devil
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Hmm, missed that |
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FredScuttle
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:31 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. I'll be sure to write a scathing letter to the Better Business Bureau |
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timber84
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. Not sure about the inner workings of escort services |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
133. It's probably the set up for a civil lawsuit. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #133 |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. Yes, about 30-50% of reported rapes turn out to be not prosecutable |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:34 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. You know you actually made me laugh! |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #138 |
145. There's a wealth of info supporting. Ask any prosecutor. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #135 |
140. He was probably feverishly devouring the new research |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:49 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. it's common knowledge in law enforcement |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
134. I'm surprised those boys accepted the exotic dancers to perform for them. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
146. Keith Olbermann is doing a segment on this right now |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
148. Talking about this on MSNBC now: N/T. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
150. Locking |
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