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Nikki Stone1
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:41 PM Original message |
Should women stay out of the circumcision debate? |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Considering I said that they should have a voice in the abortion debate... |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. It's social conditioning. (nt) |
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Mutley
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Sat Apr-01-06 05:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
319. The uncircumcised variety is fine as long as they keep it clean. |
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Olney Blue
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. As a female, I don't know about circumcision. |
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Jersey Devil
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
240. Well, perhaps the guys can give you some "tips" |
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Olney Blue
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Fri Mar-31-06 05:16 PM Response to Reply #240 |
297. LOL. Good one. |
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swimboy
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's hard to define what staying out of the debate would mean. |
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Dora
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. When my son was born |
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Nikki Stone1
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. That sounds like what I would do. I figure it's a guy thing |
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One_of_8
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. Um, aren't we forgetting single moms? |
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Dora
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
138. I didn't say, "women should have no say" |
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One_of_8
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:21 PM Response to Reply #138 |
290. I didn't say you did say that |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. Little boys want to look like daddy |
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Dora
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #56 |
140. Warpy |
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Hamlette
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
101. I made the decision for my son, not my husband |
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Dora
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
139. I don't know what "nonsense" you're talking about, sister. |
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Hamlette
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:30 AM Response to Reply #139 |
183. it's cosmetic surgery, on an infant |
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Dora
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Fri Mar-31-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #183 |
226. Well, our experience was very different. |
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sui generis
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #226 |
308. thank you for the reality check |
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sui generis
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
307. the decision should be made on unbiased medical information |
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Boudica the Lyoness
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Fri Mar-31-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
300. Not your decision to make |
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sui generis
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Sat Apr-01-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #300 |
312. did you ask your boys? What did they compare to? |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
5. You've got a point if a law had to be created around it n/t |
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Minnesota Libra
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Only to the degree that men stay out of the abortion issue. nt |
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hholli11
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. his body, his choice... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. It would be nice if some men would control their own peckers |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
109. Self-Delete |
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sui generis
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
228. I say we do a study! |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't see how there's all that much of a debate |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. It's not as clear as you state. |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. The evidence looks pretty good at this point |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. See below for well-documented references (nt) |
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Nikki Stone1
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I hadn't heard about the HIV thing. Most of the arguments for circumcision |
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Yupster
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
165. How is the hygiene argument a myth? |
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Touchdown
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:14 PM Response to Reply #165 |
242. Yeah, that warm, wet place destroys your eyes too. |
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sui generis
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #242 |
248. not wiping your ass is natural too |
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Touchdown
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #248 |
271. So it's REEEEAAAAL hard.... |
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sui generis
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:28 PM Response to Reply #271 |
306. non sequitor |
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Yupster
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:18 PM Response to Reply #242 |
280. Can't argue with you there |
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fleabert
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
273. there are two studies, both of which are badly flawed. |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Here's one article on the subject of HIV |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. more info: |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. One needs to control for these factors |
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FlaGranny
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
260. I would view any study which stated the following |
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Touchdown
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:55 PM Response to Reply #260 |
285. Friction vs. movement. |
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RobertSeattle
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #285 |
287. I heard the trend is that the trend is downward though |
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FlaGranny
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Sun Apr-02-06 10:18 AM Response to Reply #285 |
338. My post was not advocating |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. For every one you cite- I can cite another |
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sui generis
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
246. an abrasian on a highly vascularized area of skin |
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mconvente
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Sat Apr-01-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #246 |
324. yep |
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wildeyed
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. This is relatively new information. |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
103. It's very new information |
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wildeyed
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:34 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. With kids, you are always trying to do the best for them, |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
112. Deleted message |
Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. THANK YOU! |
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wildeyed
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #112 |
120. Um, I didn't circumcise my son. |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
131. LOL- I do have an agenda. |
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Touchdown
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
238. Not "study after study". ONE study. |
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depakid
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #238 |
251. Man, you need to learn how to research |
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VelmaD
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. On female "circumcision"...we should scream and holler... |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. The equivalent operation to male circumcision is hymenectomy |
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VelmaD
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. I didn't equate the two... |
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fleabert
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #47 |
210. actually, the equivalent is a hoodectomy- |
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Katherine Brengle
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
61. You also can't compare male and female circumcision -- |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
12. gave birth to two boys. told hubby, was his decision. i knew nothing |
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rocktivity
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
181. You didn't stay out of the debate |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
13. No, absolutely not should women be silent on this..... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Hubby and I both made the decision with our son... |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. With all due respect, if your son was an infant he didn't have any |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. and waiting until he was older??? |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. With all due respect, there's a reason a newborn infant doesn't |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. When I "think about it" ..... I come up with |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. On the contrary, some DO choose this for themselves when the |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. You're mixing apples w/oranges...... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. My oldest daughter was not breastfed when I had her... |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. It is equivalent, in fact |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. THAT is the point....."the kid wouldn't decide to do that on his own" |
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shanti
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
102. and some men |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. My wife & I did the same, but came to the opposite conclusion. |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Completely agree! |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #46 |
119. Nah, they'll have us all lobotomized, first. nt |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
121. I think the govt should stay out of it, |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. bah hahah, well, i trust my hubby to equally be able to make "good |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. It's really easy to tell who is circumsized and not in this...... |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. I've never met a man who questioned his circumcision |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Insightful men do think/wonder about it |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. So if a man doesn't have issues with his circ... |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. so in all your insightfullness, if a man doesnt agree with you |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
89. I expect anyone man or woman to be able to explain |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. What do you consider genuine thought/insight? |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. bullshit. own your words. if a man doesnt agree with you |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
113. I'm insightful, centered, and grounded and have ... |
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sui generis
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #113 |
247. the real test is if you lose sleep over other people's window treatments |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
243. Yes you did. 6 months ago. |
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fleabert
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
277. many have questioned it... |
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seabeyond
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. damn good thing i have a hubby that goes beyond what you suggest |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. And if a man has issues with his circ... |
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Mind_your_head
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. yes, that's true....it is the parent's decision |
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swimboy
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
289. Here's what I don't understand |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
14. Women should be heard, of course. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Actually, the American Academy of Pediatrics disagrees. |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. Actually, what they're saying |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:36 PM Response to Reply #55 |
106. No, what they're saying is that there are studies which show SOME |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:57 PM Response to Reply #106 |
133. Seems to me that |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:03 PM Response to Reply #133 |
154. It's not "internal politcs". It's the considered decision of the physician |
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Neil Lisst
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
68. I'm the father of sons, so it's hardly an abstract concept. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
107. Yeah, I've always been of the opinion that there's a subconscious desire |
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Yupster
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
168. I've always wondered about that too |
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Lilith Velkor
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #36 |
127. (And yes, I know that men have nipples) |
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fleabert
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
18. No. |
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LSparkle
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. Yes |
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stop the bleeding
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. it's not a debate if all sides are not involved in the debating |
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sui generis
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
22. think of men deciding on female circumcision? |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Exactly right |
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Vektor
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. Hard to say - since a baby cannot make such a decision, typically Mom |
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Kaylee
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. My husband made the decision regarding our son.... |
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Extend a Hand
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Thu Mar-30-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. my husband and I both discussed it |
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Yupster
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
170. We talked and read and talked |
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NoPasaran
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yes. Men should as well. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. You know this is basically a parent's decision |
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pitohui
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. this woman will be happy to stay out of it |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. Well, considering they're the primary parent when "daddy" |
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fleabert
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. this is so not true. |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. It's a fairly drastic, painful surgery on an older child |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. You are right... |
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fleabert
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
136. I have already decided. |
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sui generis
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:35 AM Response to Reply #136 |
229. sensitive guy |
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fleabert
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #229 |
268. not weird at all to care about a completely unecessary surgery |
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sui generis
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Sat Apr-01-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #268 |
318. fleabert! |
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fleabert
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Sun Apr-02-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #318 |
332. hello there! |
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Uzybone
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I agree with you. |
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Inland
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
91. Well, yeah. PARENTS decide. I don't know what the gender |
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cynatnite
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. most men can't remember their experience |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:50 PM Response to Reply #98 |
132. All in, or all out, I suppose. |
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Huskerchub
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. You have finally played your hand... |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. great point! |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Wow, are you a humorless chunk o'Outrage. Joke, dude. Joke. nt |
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Another Bill C.
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
58. The consequences of circumcision |
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depakid
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Umm... |
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Warpy
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Mine too. |
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Mr.Green93
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
117. Smegma |
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Lisa0825
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
118. Not if you clean it properly.... |
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Yupster
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:00 AM Response to Reply #118 |
173. Smegma can be reduced |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
124. Deleted message |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:44 PM Response to Reply #65 |
249. Only personal experience. I'm growing a new one. |
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Sun Apr-02-06 01:25 AM Response to Reply #249 |
333. oh no. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. Well, that's news to me |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. i havent seen nor heard of this either. hubby has no issue on lack |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
116. complaints of the nature you describe are more than likely the result |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
234. funny how this is the most common argument |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. thank you. not being a guy.... i was feeling bad, but then.... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
59. yes, they should stay out of it |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
62. If it wouldn't be so awkward, I would thank my parents for NOT |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
94. I think Hallmark makes a card..... nt |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:57 PM Response to Reply #94 |
252. ha! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #252 |
295. I'm feeling less snarky myself. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
70. It should be up to the mother and mothers should not agree |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. That "logic" |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Blame the mothers??? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #70 |
82. Judgmental a bit? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
71. Not unless circumcision is postponed until adulthood. |
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #71 |
311. muslims circumsize as part of their adolescent coming of age |
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Sat Apr-01-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #311 |
313. Just who the fuck is "you people?" |
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Sat Apr-01-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #313 |
315. Gladys Kravitz was the nosy busybody on bewitched |
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Sat Apr-01-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #315 |
321. I read some of your responses. |
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Sat Apr-01-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #321 |
323. I just reread my hot headed response |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
77. This was a real point of contention between my wife and I. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
79. Since diseases can be passed to women by men without |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
81. They really can't. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I've assisted in the procedure... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
85. Sure, just like men have with abortion. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
86. Mothers might need to make the decision. Infants have a tough time |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
87. I thought parents always decided for their kids. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
90. If women have to stay out of this issue... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
92. How about psychiatric studies? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. It really is a parental decision, more often than not. n/t |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
93. Should men stay out of womens' reproductive business... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
96. In out, in out, in out, in out. Let's get something straight between us! |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. The post of the day! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:04 AM Response to Reply #96 |
174. There is a foreskin restoration program |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:55 AM Response to Reply #174 |
191. "Foreskin restoration program"? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:51 PM Response to Reply #96 |
250. Yes, and yes. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
97. If men have a say in abortion, women can have a say in choppin' the cane. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. "Crippled"? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:42 PM Response to Reply #104 |
130. You've said just enough. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:09 PM Response to Reply #104 |
156. "Uncircumsized is ugly" |
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #156 |
310. well it varies by user |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
166. Yeah, but Uncircumcised is Keith Richards. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #166 |
235. rush limbaugh couldn't find his dick with both hands and a mirror |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #104 |
175. I remember watching a Britsh gossip columnist on some daytime show |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
110. News to me.. I didn't know there was a debate. Go figure ? (n/t) |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
111. I stay out! |
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Thu Mar-30-06 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
114. I'm amazed at how many people still think 'a boy needs to |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
128. You raise so many interesting issues in that post |
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
135. LMAO at women who get worked up over this issue... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:52 PM Response to Reply #114 |
137. Good post and wise words in your entire post.....thank you. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
125. Not when the women are mothers of sons. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
126. yes and no? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
134. I dunno-- Let's pull back our thinking caps and put our heads together.... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #134 |
142. It's raised a discussion in its own right. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. "Other thread"? Please don't assume |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I thought this started as a copycat of the |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:42 PM Response to Reply #134 |
167. I'll see your German army helmet |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
141. When my first son was born- |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I would have divorced you immediately, and try to file charges... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #144 |
148. Dude, you shoulda' told your folks sooner. Sounds awful. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. It was, but I was a kid, and it was a in a "private" spot... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. She said it HAD to be done |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. Why don't you learn to read... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:08 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Well, rather than insult you...I'll just apologize instead for misreading |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. He is a parent too, with equal say as to what should be done... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Where does it say she went behind his back? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:21 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Alright, I'll give you that... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:30 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. I don't see it the same at all... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. I don't really see a difference between my analogy and what she did... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. I roll my eyes all the time |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #172 |
180. So the only difference is legality, right? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #180 |
186. Good points |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Pierced at 2?!?!?! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #187 |
189. Mom's have been piercing their babies for centuries... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:54 AM Response to Reply #189 |
190. Actually, it depends on where you live... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #190 |
194. No it does not... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #194 |
201. Still trying to figure out exactly where and for how long... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:17 AM Response to Reply #201 |
203. How much experience do you have with ear piercing? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #203 |
209. Look at what you just said... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:44 AM Response to Reply #209 |
214. I'm about done... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:03 AM Response to Reply #214 |
220. No scar on the earlobe... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #214 |
223. I just wanted to reiterate something... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #203 |
224. I've heard of girls who had infections after a "professional" |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #224 |
264. Good question... Although... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #190 |
204. Although pierced ears on young girls isn't rare here, |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:27 AM Response to Reply #204 |
207. I never said majority... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #207 |
213. I'm always happy to hear about another... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:46 AM Response to Reply #213 |
216. I hear you |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:18 AM Response to Reply #159 |
179. This is the problem with all parental decisions though |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:13 PM Response to Reply #157 |
241. No I did not go behind his back-I was perfectly up front with him |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #241 |
244. I would also like to add-in defense of my character: |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #244 |
245. I don't judge anyone for doing what they thought was best before |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #244 |
254. get mad sistah.... and happy 20 yrs marriage. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #244 |
263. Your regrets/not regrets don't matter. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:51 PM Response to Reply #263 |
270. In my husbands case-cleanliness was not a red herring which is |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #270 |
272. What was the malady? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #272 |
276. If I remember correctly, he told me that he had developed an |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:37 PM Response to Reply #244 |
293. Hey, no judgment from me |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
291. It appears her husband has gotten over it |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
143. The Debate Is Chuckleheaded... |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. You posted so 'you got involved' in this chuckleheaded debate now |
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Thu Mar-30-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. Did you choose your screenname based on your attitude on circumcision? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. ha ha ha....that's a 'good one' |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:10 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. Cut you low |
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Fri Mar-31-06 10:00 AM Response to Reply #147 |
225. I'll answer since you asked. |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
160. NO!! Because uncircumsized males affect women's health, namely |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:47 PM Response to Reply #160 |
169. So mens bodies should be cut because of what *might* happen to women? |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:55 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. You have to remember, to many people... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #169 |
176. Well, as far as HIV goes... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:15 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Presumably once someone is old enough to consent to sexual activity |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #177 |
182. I agree with a lot of that |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #176 |
185. So by your logic......we should ban automobiles |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #185 |
188. You're right :) |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #188 |
193. Wait a minute......don't cave in....I'm not done fighting yet!!!! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Give me a minute...I'll come up with something |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #197 |
198. Well, there is such a thing as a 'false friend'..... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #198 |
199. Sorry, if I offended...I was making a joke... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #176 |
195. Why not just go for the entire 100% effective medical procedure... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Well, you just killed the abortion wars :) |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:10 AM Response to Reply #196 |
202. You basically said that my pain was worth it... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:21 AM Response to Reply #202 |
205. You took it to the 'cutting it all off' level... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #205 |
211. As you said... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:49 AM Response to Reply #211 |
217. Cut as in circumcision |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #217 |
219. I know what you meant, but you apparently forgot why its not something... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #219 |
221. If you knew what I meant, why take it to the level of 'cutting it off'? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:15 AM Response to Reply #221 |
222. Actually, they are choices that effect another human being... |
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Sat Apr-01-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #222 |
320. why do you have a pentagram for an avatar? |
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Sat Apr-01-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #320 |
328. Your Argument is patent nonsense... |
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Sat Apr-01-06 11:46 PM Response to Reply #328 |
329. your presumption is that what you want is more right than what |
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Sun Apr-02-06 12:14 AM Response to Reply #329 |
330. Wrong premise there... |
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Sun Apr-02-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #330 |
339. you're generalizing from exceptions |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #221 |
266. It's my goal to take that "personal choise" away from you. |
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:19 PM Response to Reply #266 |
305. no it won't |
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Sat Apr-01-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #219 |
326. I'm sorry for your pain, but... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #160 |
233. I have been married twice and both men are NOT |
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Thu Mar-30-06 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
164. the day men starts staying out of the abortion issue |
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Sat Apr-01-06 09:59 PM Response to Reply #164 |
327. re: abortion issue |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
178. Since so many men are circumcised as babies, yes |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:31 AM Response to Reply #178 |
184. Not only that...they need to make it clear to the doctor... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
192. Circumcision is silly and unecessary...worse, it reduces sexual pleasure. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #192 |
231. anteaters untie! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #231 |
267. Not horseshit. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #231 |
298. 90% of the world is uncircumsized. eom |
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Sat Apr-01-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #298 |
317. by eom did you mean IMHO? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
200. Hubby made that choice.... I was unqualified. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
206. Why should any intelligent, insightful person stay out of any debate? (nt) |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
208. Here's an earlier circumcision thread. It's certainly a fraught subject! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #208 |
212. I read sometime ago 60% in the US opted for circumisions |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #212 |
215. Check out these statistics. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #215 |
218. I didn't know about some states not covering it... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:43 AM Response to Reply #215 |
232. what about Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, South Africa, Somalia |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #232 |
275. Don't know about the muslim countries, but in Israel |
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Fri Mar-31-06 08:08 PM Response to Reply #232 |
299. Yes, it is still common in less modern-thinking nations. eom |
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Sat Apr-01-06 11:57 AM Response to Reply #299 |
303. don't we feel superior now |
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Fri Mar-31-06 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
227. who would have guessed this would be such a popular topic... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:38 AM Response to Reply #227 |
230. Anyone |
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Fri Mar-31-06 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
236. circumcision = abortion -- and I thought Superman had a big leap! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #236 |
255. silly, it's about taking away choice |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #255 |
256. so the American Academy of Pediatrics is a bunch of freaks, huh? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. nope |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #257 |
259. I have an agenda? Pot, meet kettle! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #259 |
261. progressives believe in not removing choice |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:30 PM Response to Reply #261 |
262. I never said parents should NOT have a choice. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:42 PM Response to Reply #262 |
265. fair enough but |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. I do not argue with true cultural reasons.... |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #269 |
281. It's a big decision, and my wife and myself |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #281 |
283. You'd be surprised. |
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #269 |
304. here's the problem in a nutshell |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #256 |
258. like abortion issue. against abortion, dont do it. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
239. Just don't do it!!! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #239 |
253. so the next logical step is to outlaw it for minors? |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #253 |
274. The next logical step is to outlaw it for parents. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #274 |
279. apples and grapefruits |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #279 |
284. I think people have too much control |
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Sat Apr-01-06 11:54 AM Response to Reply #284 |
302. well then it's a good thing you're not in control |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
278. I am a mother who chose NOT to have her son circumcised. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #278 |
292. Lovely post, Shine. Thank you. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:52 PM Response to Reply #292 |
294. Thanks, Dora. I appreciate your kind words. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 05:02 PM Response to Reply #278 |
296. Great post, and I agree with your approach |
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Fri Mar-31-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #296 |
301. Thanks, Nikki! |
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Fri Mar-31-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
282. When men stay out of the abortion issue. |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
286. I have two boys |
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Fri Mar-31-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
288. Heck no, men jump in like ducks to water on the abortion issue. n/t |
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Sat Apr-01-06 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
309. No. |
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Sat Apr-01-06 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
314. Circumcision is barbaric and cruel |
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Sat Apr-01-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #314 |
316. actually, the barbarians didn't circumsize |
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Sat Apr-01-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #316 |
322. A few facts to ponder |
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Sun Apr-02-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #322 |
331. No anesthesia? Why not? |
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Sun Apr-02-06 06:35 AM Response to Reply #331 |
337. Newborns are too sensitive...ironic |
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Sat Apr-01-06 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
325. I think the whole issue here is egregious liberalism of personal health |
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Sun Apr-02-06 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
334. I transcribe surgery reports of adults who weren't circumcised |
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Tue Apr-04-06 08:56 AM Response to Reply #334 |
340. mythologies |
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Sun Apr-02-06 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
335. Both parents should remain silent. No circumcism until the man decides. |
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Sun Apr-02-06 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
336. Yep. And men stay the hell out of the abortion debate. |
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