Official Censure Hearing Thread # 5 - Judiciary Committee

[liveoaktx]

LINK to # 4

[burythehatchet]

1. What a spineless wimp that is John Cornyn

Takes a shot at Dean and then exits.

[LSK]

2. i came late, which Dem senators are not there?

[hippiechick]

8. Pretty much all of them are NOT there

:puke:

[liveoaktx]

10. Only ones that I see THERE are Leahy and Feingold

that means Durbin, Kennedy,Kohl for three more, are not

[rodeodance]

71. Kohl from WI is present. quiet so far (He does not support censure)

[slipslidingaway]

14. Leahy is the only Dem I've seen. n/t

[dogday]

18. I just finished calling every one of them

and expressing my distaste for their "lack of interest in this"... One aid told me I don't have his schedule and I said " His own office does not know what he is doing?" No wonder things are so messed up.....

[liveoaktx]

22. And, censure hearing or not, EVERY PERSON EVERY DAY

ought to have the schedule. THEY REPRESENT US.

[EFerrari]

58. That's what Feinstein's office told me, too.n/t

[flpoljunkie]

20. Only two of eight in attendance--Leahy and Feingold. Leahy is ranking

minority member. It is a pathetic and cowardly showing by the other Democrats--Kennedy, Biden, Kohl, Feinstein, Durbin and Schumer seem to be "missing in action."

[LSK]

29. Kennedy surprises me

The others dont.

[dogday]

35. I had to hold over 20 minutes for Kennedy

They thought I would hang up, but I held on and so should they.....

[ralps]

67. I just called Sen Kohl's office & the lady I talked to said he was at the

hearing now.

[dogday]

81. Fein is a smart guy..................

[babylonsister]

3. This is one big yawn for Specter, isn't it. Let's just hear

everyone and get it over with.
So nothing will change, especially minds or consciences. :-(

[liveoaktx]

4. Schmidt-says he is a Democrat, no partisan bias

[The Witch]

7. ...

:eyes:

[The Witch]

5. how many people did The Spectre bring in? looks like he outdid russ

just to make sure there is more nay than yea on the panel.

[Sugarcoated]

15. Repubs in Congress

ALWAYS have to one up. With everything. Nothing can ever just be done in good faith. Fucking cheaters in every way. Bullies.

[HereSince1628]

26. Well, of course. The Missing dems prob. gave suggestions to Specter

This idiot DLC'er from the Clinton administration justice department couldn't be known to any Republican.

[Sugarcoated]

6. Oh, boy

This must be the Repubs star witness.

[The Witch]

9. The lady doth protest too much.

"I'm a Democrat, damn it!"

You don't see Dean & Fein going "I'm a Republican, damn it!"

[liveoaktx]

13. I always wonder about that, too, especially when the witness is called

to be the Republican point of view.

[rodeodance]

11. Schmitdt says that FISA and article 2 conflict.

[The Witch]

12. Remember to CALL the NO-SHOWS!

Joe Biden
202-224-5042
state: Wilmington 302-573-6345
state: Milford 302-424-8090

DiFi
202-22403841
state: LA 310-914-7300
state: San Diego 619-231-9712
state: San Fran 415-393-0707
state: Fresno 559-485-7430

Dick Durbin
202-224-2152
State: springfield 217-492-4062
state: chicago 312-353-4952
state: marion 618-998-8812

Ted Kennedy
202-224-4543
state: boston 617-565-3170

Chuckie
202-224-6542
state: nyc 212-486-4430
state: buffalo 716-846-4111
state: albany 518-431-4070
state: binghamton: 607-772-6792
state: hudson valley 914-285-9741
state: long island 631-753-0978
state: rochester 585-263-5866
state: syracuse 315-423-5471

GO!

Qs: 'Why isn't the Senator attending today's meeting of the Judiciary Committee?"
"Why not?"
"Doesn't he think the testimony important?"
"Doesn't he think the issue worth debating?

[stop the bleeding]

16. Kick - can they vote by Proxy???

[Sugarcoated]

21. Have any shown up yet?

Durbin's office said he'd be there.

[adigal]

41. I just called Chuck Schumer's Albany office

and they said their phone is ringing off the hook with people PISSED that Schumer is not there. I told him that I will NOT be going out to vote in November if this lack of protection from these criminals in Washington DC continues, I asked why Schmer doesn't care that Bush is spying on me. Hillary may be in trouble if we don't go out to vote so how will she be president if she can't even win the Senator's seat.

He said lots and lots of other people are also pretty angry.

[speedoo]

57. I just called Chuckie's office and ripped him a new one.

I live in NY and he will never get my vote if he does not start showing some backbone.

He had a "previous engagement".

I'm fed up with him.

[adigal]

75. Biden had his Greedy-Ass Mug

on Hardball last night. The man is so deluded thinking that he has a chance in hell of winning the Dem nomination.

[The Witch]

17. I posted Call your Dem Sens on separate thread... it needs your k&r

sorry to threadtroll...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=803585&mesg_id=803585

[dogday]

27. Thank you Witch....

I called every one of them except Feinstein... she had an extra digit in her phone number... Thanks for posting this info....

EVERYONE CALL NOW!!!!!

[The Witch]

42. whoops, difi is 202-224-3841

[dogday]

55. Thank you, I will

call her office now!!!!!!!

[izzybeans]

19. ARGGGGHHHH

another sycophant power sucker.

[Sugarcoated]

23. And another weak arguement!

[rodeodance]

24. keep calling these Dem Senators! thanks Witch

-31-06 09:29 AM
Response to Original message
42. Call & ask where our Dems are! phone #s:
Fri Mar
Joe Biden
202-224-5042
state: Wilmington 302-573-6345
state: Milford 302-424-8090

DiFi
202-22403841
state: LA 310-914-7300
state: San Diego 619-231-9712
state: San Fran 415-393-0707
state: Fresno 559-485-7430

Dick Durbin
202-224-2152
State: springfield 217-492-4062
state: chicago 312-353-4952
state: marion 618-998-8812

Ted Kennedy
202-224-4543
state: boston 617-565-3170

Chuckie
202-224-6542
state: nyc 212-486-4430
state: buffalo 716-846-4111
state: albany 518-431-4070
state: binghamton: 607-772-6792
state: hudson valley 914-285-9741
state: long island 631-753-0978
state: rochester 585-263-5866
state: syracuse 315-423-5471

GO!

Qs: 'Why isn't the Senator attending today's meeting of the Judiciary Committee?"
"Why not?"
"Doesn't he think the testimony important?"
"Doesn't he think the issue worth debating?

[Sugarcoated]

30. Got Shumer's VM in DC

And no answer in NYC

[BlueStater]

36. Lying Bastard

Our grandparents never had any wiretapping bullshit when they were fighting the Nazis. You can't tell me with a straight face that a few cave dwellers are a bigger threat than Japan was.

We're a nation of pussies, aren't we?

[debbierlus]

25. Funny, isn't it?

That a huge percentage of the country WANTS centure and many want impeachment...

And, this is what we get. A couple brave soldiers abandoned by their comrades.

And, a group of disloyal pigs (or should I say elephants, poor elephants to be besmirched by the Republicans in that way).

[stop the bleeding]

28. don't insult elephants or pigs like that - these *&^&*I's are scum n/t

[shadowknows69]

38. he just repeating over and over

talking points. doesn't mater if they're true or not. the sheeple will believe what they hear last it seems.

[HereSince1628]

40. Yes, it's so funny I'm splitting my side laughing, not.

THIS is the way the DCDems play. THIS yet more proof they are all about the club of party insiders. A left leaning jew from Wisconsin must be put in his place.

[peacetalksforall]

31. Panel is stacked? I cam in late - isn' t a 3-2 panel? nt

[liveoaktx]

34. Yes, and Specter already insinuated that Feingold's witnesses are not good

with Cornyn trashing John Dean

[Norquist Nemesis]

37. Yup!! 3 pro-Bush - 2 pro rule of law n/t

[liveoaktx]

32. Schmidt-President did all this in "good faith" to censure him under

those circumstances is wrong.

Uh, HOW THE HECK DO WE KNOW HE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH? There's been NO INVESTIGATION OF BUSH

[napi21]

45. Isn't "acting in good faith" the same as "I'm sorry officer, I didn't

KNOW it ws wrong to speed!"

[liveoaktx]

56. Yeah, and it's the same amount of bs

[Democrat 4 Ever]

60. So I'm guess the repugs will ignore the Dem witnesses and spend

all of their time "questioning" the Federalist Society shills so they can keep reiterating the same tired arguments. Nothing to see here, move along. King Chimpy is king, all hail the king.

[Norquist Nemesis]

33. Is this Specter's 'showdown' with Feingold?

We'll see how much he shuts down Feingold and his witnesses.

[rodeodance]

39. I do not think Specter would do this hearning unless he knew the outcome

in advance. He will table it

[shadowknows69]

47. bad faith?

how about the letters of the law.

[Norquist Nemesis]

He keeps cutting off Dean; now he's hitting Fein n/t

[rodeodance]

50. Specter just dissed RF for walking off Senate floor before he could

question him.

[liveoaktx]

Yes, he was POd at him on Monday

[HereSince1628]

52. NO, it is the DEMS turning Feingold over to Specter for roasting.

I hate insider clubs. I really hate elitism. I really have to say, the rat bastards are as bad as the republicans.

[liveoaktx]

I agree... at least Graham showed up and said he didn't agree w/Feingold

So the Dems couldn't show up and support him, even if they don't agree?????

[EVDebs]

43. Bad faith. "George loves us all, he would never screw up"

Bad faith = a litany of lies.

[Canuckistanian]

44. Schmidt is talking as if FISA never existed

I think there needs to be a law allowing the courts to deal with this.....

asshole

[flpoljunkie]

61. Interesting he worked for Clinton and is testifying for the Republicans.

[Norquist Nemesis]

46. Trying to discredit Dean. "You were speaking out against Bush

before" :puke:

[EVDebs]

51. "Bad faith is conduct" Go Johnny, Go ! eom

[0007]

72. Oh shit, I knew they wouldn't get through this hearing without

mentioning Clinton.

The gang of eight, give me a fucking break!

[liveoaktx]

48. This hearing is making me cringe

[The Witch]

49. Since when is bad faith/good faith a prerequisite ...

... I typed AS he said it...

[LSK]

53. now this is getting good

Maybe Specter should question Feingold.

[Coexist]

54. Just got back home - Thank goodness for Sirius

I was able to listen while errand-running.

Specter is a prick.

[EVDebs]

62. Specter's "magic bullet" is a Preparation H suppository ! n/t

[The Witch]

59. i feel like puking now

anything for some real work to come my way.

[Coexist]

63. ???

did I miss something?

[The Witch]

68. i want some work on my desk so i can take a break from this car wreck

of a hearing.

[stop the bleeding]

69. Spector is throwing under the bus - not that I expected anything different

[stop the bleeding]

65. me to - this is unreal n/t

[adigal]

64. NO ONE REPRESENTS US AGAINST THESE CRIMINALS

Two Democratic Senators at these hearings??? YOu know what?? Even if we lose in '06, we need to get our message to these cowards. They CANNOT WIN without us. Hillary cannot win in NY without us. I swear, I am so close to not voting for the first time in my life this November, I can't even tell you. I am sick to my stomach that these bastards who collect a paycheck and pretend to be Dems are not even at this hearing.

WHO THE HELL REPRESENTS US?? ME?? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING SPIED UPON??

NO ONE.

[HereSince1628]

80. Well, consider just who will you send contributions

Vote with your money and vote at the polls.

Grassroots democrats are getting a fucking today thanks to the DCDems.

[rodeodance]

66. keep calling these Dem Senators! thanks Witch

-31-06 09:29 AM
Response to Original message
42. Call & ask where our Dems are! phone #s:
Fri Mar
Joe Biden
202-224-5042
state: Wilmington 302-573-6345
state: Milford 302-424-8090

DiFi
202-22403841
state: LA 310-914-7300
state: San Diego 619-231-9712
state: San Fran 415-393-0707
state: Fresno 559-485-7430

Dick Durbin
202-224-2152
State: springfield 217-492-4062
state: chicago 312-353-4952
state: marion 618-998-8812

Ted Kennedy
202-224-4543
state: boston 617-565-3170

Chuckie
202-224-6542
state: nyc 212-486-4430
state: buffalo 716-846-4111
state: albany 518-431-4070
state: binghamton: 607-772-6792
state: hudson valley 914-285-9741
state: long island 631-753-0978
state: rochester 585-263-5866
state: syracuse 315-423-5471

GO!

Qs: 'Why isn't the Senator attending today's meeting of the Judiciary Committee?"
"Why not?"
"Doesn't he think the testimony important?"
"Doesn't he think the issue worth debating?

[The Witch]

73. Thanks for keeping it going rodeodance!

:hug:

[EVDebs]

76. Any mention yet of the THOUSANDS of citizens who've been spied upon ?

Who will ask this question ? Will Specter dare ask ?

[EFerrari]

86. To answer your question, the staffer did not know Dianne's

schedule.

[liveoaktx]

70. Specter-Wasn't the Gang of 8 informed?

[LSK]

77. and silenced because it was CLASSIFIED

[Norquist Nemesis]

78. FEIN: President isn't giving you the information

If you're going to have accountability, you have to have accountability to the Congress...just not one or two members.

[stop the bleeding]

74. Time for #6?

[LSK]

79. usually at 100 posts or so

[EVDebs]

83. Fein just mentioned the "thousands" who've been secretly spied upon n/t

[liveoaktx]

82. >>>> THREAD NUMBER SIX STARTED>>>>>>> LINK

six

[rodeodance]

84. Fein says congress can not make judgement cause FISA is so secret.

[Sugarcoated]

85. Good points Fein!!!!!

[Coexist]

87. "I lost count the number of times he refused to answer"

Leahy on Gonzalez. Good one.

[Skinner]

88. Locking

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