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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:10 PM
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Tucker Carlson falsely suggested
Edited on Wed Jul-12-06 09:16 PM by Lost-in-FL
Puerto Ricans living in Texas are immigrants to U.S.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200607120005

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:29 PM
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1. What a dumbass
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 10:34 PM
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2. ah Tucker
I think your bowtie is a little on the tight side, loosen it so your brain can get some oxygen.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 07:34 AM
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3. tucker carlson es un ignorante de idea supremacistas y siempre quiere
hacerse el gracioso, el que sabe más, y el que tiene la ultima palabra.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 12:53 PM
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4. Puerto Ricans are American citizens aren't they?
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 12:54 PM by Cleita
Can you vote in presidential elections though? I hope so.

Carlson is a big bendejo.
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 04:49 PM
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5. Yes they are US Citizens
Edited on Thu Jul-13-06 05:04 PM by Lost-in-FL
They vote for the president if they live in the US but NOT if you are a resident of Puerto Rico. Why? Because the Supreme Court of the United States of America said so in 1922 (US citizenship was granted in 1917). You can look up Downes v. Bidwell and Balzac v. The People of Porto Rico for reference.

Yes PORTO RICO, not PUERTO RICO. Congress decided to correct all the statutes and judicial opinions written with the proper name of the island 35 years after the PR invasion. It took them 35 years to get it right.

Balzac v. The People of Porto Rico laid the basis to construct Puerto Rican US Citizenship as a second class citizenship. Puerto Ricans in the island will not enjoy the full rights of American Citizens by law. There's been attempts to change the ruling but the Supreme Court won't rule on it. Even members of the forces such as US ARMY Reserves in PR or the Puerto Rico National Guard aren't able to cast a vote for the President but can died for his failed policies. They can only vote if they move to the US.

This was the interpretation of the Supreme Court: "Alaska was a very different case (????) from that of Porto Rico. It was an enormous territory, very sparsely settled and offering opportunity from immigration and settlement by AMERICAN CITIZENS. It was on the American Continent and within easy reach of the then United States. It involved none of the difficulties which incorporation of the Philippines and Porto Rico Presents".

So there you have it. It is already assumed that Puerto Rican US citizens aren't AMERICAN CITIZENS just like Tucker thinks!


Other facts about Puerto Ricans living in the island

Puerto Rico is a Commonwealth which means that it is an "unincorporated territory of the US" but with its locally elected government. The Jones Act of 1917, granted Puerto Ricans US citizenship.

Conservatives think that PR's do not pay Federal Taxes and that is untrue. Puerto Ricans do pay federal taxes IF THEY WORK FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT (regardless of where the job is located, so even Puertorrican soldiers in Iraq have to pay federal taxes). And of course, they DO pay "state" taxes (Local economy taxes) which are even higher than that of FEDERAL TAXES. They also pay for social security, Medicaid and Medicare. etc. Puertorricans fall under the selective service act, so they can be drafted into the US Armed Forces.

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:31 AM
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6. Since 1980 they are allowed to vote in the
presidential primary. That's it though. I agree that its mostly a second class citizenship. Not good enough to vote for the president, but good enough to serve in wartime.
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Cybergata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:16 PM
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8. But, if they live in one of the 50 states, can't...
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 09:18 PM by Cybergata
they vote?

here's my calico

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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:50 PM
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9. If...
they live in the island NO.

If they live/have an address in any of the 50 states or APO YES.
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 07:32 PM
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7. I know a few cops who didn't know they're citizens.
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