Pat Buchanan earns his racist bona fides on HARDBALL 2.19.09

[wndycty]

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[myrna minx]

1. I'm speechless. Wow. n/t

[Bicoastal]

2. Amazing how a Republican who did NOTHING 40 years but take advantage of racial disunity...

...now has the gall to say "Our work is done and you should thank us."

[madamesilverspurs]

3. Just saw that.

My jaw is sore from hitting the floor. Buchannan was over-the-top, screeching and howling the white supremacist screed. He cannot possibly ever again whine about being accused of being a racist pig. He just totally outed himself on that score. Bigtime.

[jacobfloyd]

4. If we are all Americans . . . .

then why is Pat Buchanan so quick to point out what the "African-American" community does or doesn't do? When is it going to start being about us rather than us vs. them?

[glowing]

5. If any community within the American walls is hurting, then shouldn't we do the

American thing and make sure we help it out.. Isn't that what Obama means by targeting the "better angels" and helping one another out.. that's what people like so much.

[LosinIt]

6. That was so hard to watch

He's the kind of racist who is sooo racist that he has no idea that he is a racist.

[vaberella]

7. Man...I can't get over the racism...he's an evil bastard. n/t

[AlbertCat]

8. You'll notice...

....no one called WHITES cowards. He said people in the US are cowards on this one subject. That includes blacks....and Asians and Latins and....

Pat putting up his dukes to fight off the colored man is just the kind of cowardice being talked about! What an idiot and an example of the problem.

Now....let's discuss the mother of all subjects that Americans are cowards about....SEX!

[Number23]

9. Pat just says out loud what alot quietly think.

[SanchoPanza]

10. You're being overly generous, I think.

Buchanan earned his bona fides years ago. Waxing nostalgic about segregation in Washington, D.C. tends to do that.

[ProfessorPlum]

11. Nice how MED's feed kept getting screwed each time

he was rounding to make a point. I know it's probably just a coincidence, but could it have looked more contrived?

Ha ha - now, that was an honest discussion about race. With at least one racist. Point to Holder and Dyson.

[PopYoColla]

12. Pay close attention @ 8.30

Professor Dyson slaps them both down for them sayin' electing Pres. Obama makes everything ok. Buchannan looked like he wanted to go to a Klan rally right after the interview. This is 2009 not 1909, caveman. *shakin' head*

[Evergreen Emerald]

13. Well. Now they know what happens when people talk about race.

And why we are cowards.

Blame and point. Blame and point.

[thatsrightimirish]

14. They are both idiots

In my opinion. The reason why people donot want to talk about race in America is because they are afraid to be branded racists which is exactly what everyone is doing in this thread.

[Raineyb]

15. Hence the use of the word cowards.

You do know what the word means do you not?

Just to let you know since you apparently have not the skills to recognize blatant racism when it smacks you in the face, the reason why people are branding Buchanan and Barnicle as racists is because they are being racist.

I really shouldn't have to explain something so blatant on a Democratic board.

Regards

[thatsrightimirish]

16. sorry

I don't see what was racist. Pointing out higher crime rates in the African American community? Barnicle objecting the use of the word cowards? In the end they both agreed there was work to be done. Buchanan may be ignorant as to why crime and having children out of wedlock are higher in the African American community, but those are indeed the facts and the facts are colorblind.

[pretzel4gore]

17. read 'Up from Conservativism' by Michael Lind

pat pukecannon probably has, so he knows. Lind dissected the rightwing republi-conman seizure of power in US starting after goldwater debacle in 1964. One of its main features was the 'Three hoaxes' of the reactionary rightwing public political platform/stand. The three hoaxes are
1) taxes are too high (many studies prove that US taxes are as low or lower then most developed economies, and the lie has seen them lowered still)
2) inner city, or black, women have babies disproportiantaly out-of-wedlock (in fact, during the reagan era, when this lie received most repeated exposer on media, the numbers of unwed moms in the white community was as great as in the nonwhite, though 30 years of constant attacks/war on drug etc policies obviously have demoralized countless younger black people both male and female, so the stat might hold water now, it didn't when it was first being promoted)
3) Public schools are failures (during regan era, countless studies showed public schools actually had better record then private schools, but defunding of public schools in poorer areas has resulted in the statistic actually gaining credence since Clinton era..

[Raineyb]

18. Well you certainly are sorry aren't you. That's the only thing you've managed to get right.

Black people are no more violent, than white people. We're more likely to be targeted by the police, more likely to be arrested for offenses white people are allowed to walk away from, more likely to be charged in cases where white people would be not be, more likely to be convicted and more likely to be harshly punished for the same crimes that white people are but we are not more prone to actually committing crimes than white people. If you target a particular segment of the citizenry it's not a surprise when more of them end up in jail. Contributing these numbers merely to a proclivity to commit crime by members of that segment of the citizenry because of race is racist.

Black women are not more likely to have children out of wedlock than white women. It is a lie perpetrated by so called conservatives (racist assholes) to demonize programs for the poor. Constantly repeating it doesn't make it so.

And considering that the topic in the video was supposed to be AG Holder's comments about America's cowardice when it comes to discussing race wtf do these bullshit statistics have to do with what Professor Dyson was saying or what AG Holder said.

Perhaps the reason why you've been called racist is because you are one. You certainly have the bullshit crime and out of wedlock language down.

[psychopomp]

19. What I saw is Mr. Buchanan making a point that blacks have to stop blaming others

for their situation. That is in the best tradition of Malcolm X and and Louis Farrakhan. The professor was being pretty evasive on this matter and sounded even less credible than Pat Buchanan. Even the President would agree that it is time to stop making excuses and pointing fingers.

I know how bad it is for blacks in the US, I was one; people need help but they also need to stop looking to blame others.

[Raineyb]

20. Why the hell do you assume that just because black people are pointing out

things that are being done to us that we're not discussing what we can do as a community?

Why is it that only when black people point things out that we have people like you saying that we're blaming everyone but us? You don't deign to listen to our media you have no idea what the hell we're saying unless you happen to come across something that comports with some stereotype you've got embroidered onto your brain.

What you're doing is called projection. You're doing exactly what you accuse black people of doing. You aren't the least bit interested in addressing what Professor Dyson said so you come up with this lame narrative that "black people need to stop looking to blame others" only that has nothing to do with the conversation on the video clip. And Professor Dyson wasn't shifting blame.

If you're referring to what I had said earlier I damn sure am not blaming others for what we may be doing wrong. I'm blaming the system for being biased because one thing I know for sure we are not more violent, more prone to out of wedlock births, and more prone to every societal ill than white people. Anyone who believes that shit is a fucking racist and I will not sugar coat it for you.

[psychopomp]

27. Good grief

I am black. You might re-read what I wrote; maybe it will become more clear to you. Anyways, looking to put blame elsewhere is not going to sit well with anybody, myself included. My family has always had their shit together. Believe it.

[Raineyb]

28. Once again you fail to miss the point.

Where in that video is there any mention of blaming white people for our problems? You make points about things that aren't in the video. I never said I blame white people for our problems. Prof. Dyson didn't blame white people for all of our problems so once again what the hell does blaming white people have to do with the topic at hand which was AG Holder's comments about America being a nation of cowards?

Stop changing the subject and with all due respect, do not accuse me of something I did not do.

Regards

[Number23]

26. "I know how bad it is for blacks in the US, I was one"

:wtf: Are you no longer in the U.S. or no longer black??

[thatsrightimirish]

21. you're right

The National Center for Health Statistics is totally a racist organization. Obviously I know that one race is more biologically prone to be pregnant than another.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/hus07.pdf#010

I'm not saying that it excuses racist behavior, attitudes, and policy which is why I am a democrat and support social programs, public education, gun control, affirmative action and oppose the death penalty. But you seem to know me so well you probably knew all those things.

[Raineyb]

23. I've never made the mistake of assuming that the racists only have Rs after their names

Clearly being a Dem (which I'll assume as I have no evidence to the contrary) hasn't stopped you from making excuses for Pat Buchanan's disgusting behavior.

And there's no such thing as one race being biologically more prone to being pregnant.

Seriously what does any of this have to do with treating black people like human beings? Pat Buchanan's point seems to be well you've got all these problems in your community so you don't deserve it. Is that your argument?

Regards

On edit: Added the last paragraph.

[Ysabela]

22. MSNBC is a channel of cowards. Racists interrupt his feed at 3:58...

After Pat makes his statement that racism is all black people's fault because they have black churches and the Congressional Black Caucus, Professor Dyson begins to counter that argument with the facts of how the black churches started, MSNBC decides to interrupt the feed to prevent the counter-point from being made. How cowardly.

[Ysabela]

24. The racists at MSNBC also interrupt Dyson's counter-point at 6:40 AND 7:10!!

I thought the first one at 3:58 was OBVIOUS, but these second two just make it a blatantly egregious pattern. His feed was fine the entire time until he got to his 3 most poignant counter-points to the racism being spewed by Buchanan.

[Raineyb]

25. Seemed like a really convenient "coincidence" didn't it?

Almost as if it was done on purpose.

I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

Regards