"The Pope is clearly condemning many many people, innocent people, in Africa to death... "

[kpete]

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[Taverner]

1. Yes he is - although some here think he's rational and is telling the truth

There were some wacky ass people here the other day saying the Pope was right, condoms aren't effective, they cause rape (?!?!?!?) - and these were vetran DUers

:eyes:

[Hello_Kitty]

4. WTF??

Hmm, let me guess, did one of them have a username spelled in all caps that is also the name of a Queensryche album?

[Taverner]

5. Nope

And I'm not going to name names - but the poster was arguing that condoms are rarely used during rapes, so having condoms available would promote sex, and promote rape

I kind of gave a deep-seeded WTF and just went on to something else - I just can't argue with nonsense

[Hello_Kitty]

7. Actually condoms are used very often in rape.

Because of DNA testing.

[Taverner]

11. Exactly - the poster was illogical on so many levels

[IntravenousDemilo]

10. Really? That's very interesting.

I'd love a link to the thread where the moran said condoms cause rape. That should be a good laugh.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

2. He has said this before. He is directly responsible for the deaths of those people.

[Arctic Dave]

3. The Pope can go take a running fuck at himself.

[Hello_Kitty]

6. Our MSM gasbags should watch this and get some pointers for how to handle a panel

I guarentee Tweety or Leslie would have let the obnoxious Catholic guest spout her propaganda uninterrupted and unquestioned. The English dude called her on every one of her lies. He was clearly prepared with the facts and was not tolerating her bullshit.

See, American MSM? It can be done!

[soulcore]

8. It's called Eugenics...

It's called Eugenics, and The Church has been engaging in it for centuries. The Pope, and anyone else who denies the facts can go fuck themselves.

[Hello_Kitty]

9. They condoned the Holocaust. eom

[mckara]

12. The Church is Demonstrating Its Irrelevance

The pope is so out of touch with reality, he must be a Republican.

[Moonwalk]

13. Precisely. Irrelevance. The Pope is a bias and unreliable source of information on this subject.

So why should anyone listen to him? And the idea isn't that some prostitute is going to get AIDS and we can save her if we just teach her to give up prostitution, because she's not going to convince some rough, AIDS infected man to spare her. The idea is that some prostitute is going to give AIDS to all her customers, who will then give it to their wives, and this can be prevented if the men are talked into using condoms. And they will use a condom if they think it can spare them from AIDS. What they won't do is give up sex with prostitutes.

So, win-win. They don't get it from their one time with that one prostitute, and their wives don't get it. And don't give birth to babies with AIDS.

Now, of course, theoretically, the Pope is right. Don't have sex until marriage and then have sex with only your spouse and yes, you'll put an end to AIDS. But how is a priest who has--presumably--been celibate most of his life trustworthy when it comes to knowing how logical or reasonable this suggestion is to a large population of men as compared to condom use? How is a European priest in a very different country with many different tribal cultures trustworthy when it comes to judging if even Catholics in those countries will do as he tells them? Catholicism certainly didn't change men in Latin American cultures. In the past, at lest, Latin American cultures saw virility as a sign of masculinity and religion did diddily-squat to alter that. Latin American men did not, by and large, remain celibate till marriage or faithful after marriage.

On the other hand, I really don't know why anyone is surprised by this. What else do you expect the Pope to say? All those people and more will die of AIDS, and the Pope won't say, 'Oops, my bad!" He'll just say, "Will of god. They shouldn't have sinned." Neat the way such people always manage to prove themselves right to themselves, no matter the facts.

[AlbertCat]

14. The Pope is clearly obsolete and useless and needs to disappear.

Those who listen to him are in peril....here and now.

[applegrove]

15. The pope obviously doesn't really care about the people of Africa who

are just beginning to fight the war on AIDS using condums and education. This is just the start of the fight which will go on for generations. The pope claims to care but he doesn't. Dogma is more important than human life to the Vatican.