Rick Warren Caught In Lies Sent Scrambling From ABC 'too sick to go on' poor dear

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On CNN this week, Rick Warren said 'during the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never -- never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going' -

Watch shocking video below as a pod-person takes over Rick Warren's body and does JUST THAT VERY THING...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o4QqGbQmU0

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What other lies does this man have tucked away... maybe he should ask Ted Haggard for some advice

[lostnotforgotten]

1. Not Surprising

eom

[mwb970]

2. I don't trust religious people.

Warren is no exception.

[Frisbee]

4. Amen, Brother!

:toast:

[TheEuclideanOne]

13. I so completely agree with you

The only people that ever really screwed me over in my life and business have all been openly religious. All 3 times it was from people that were very quick to tell you how religious they were. They wear religion like a mask. Okay, one time it was from a person who was very quick to keep telling me about what an honest person he is. That being said, I do know truly religious people that will sit down talk your ear off about religion if you sit down with them and ask them. They actually follow the teachings of their religion or use it for guidance. The ones that you have to be afraid of are the ones that wear religion on their sleeve and are so quick to let you know how religious they are. I no longer do business with religious people or "You can trust me, I am so honest" types because they simply can not be trusted.

[juno jones]

21. In the words of WS Burroughs:

"If you are doing business with a religious son-of-a-bitch; Get It In Writing. His word isn't worth shit, not with the good lord tellilng him how to fuck you on the deal."

[TheEuclideanOne]

23. Nice!

[lisa58]

3. what a jerk - why lie?

[AlexDeLarge]

5. Lying is not a sin,

so he can do that and not expect any retribution.

[HillbillyBob]

17. I think lying is covered under

Do not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

[No More Bushbots]

19. Do Not Bear False Witness

Lying is a sin.

[noamnety]

6. rec #5

In honor of Mr. Warren's inclusion in the Parade of Hypocrites.

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. He is a right wing Talibangelical: lying is what they *do*

The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised.

[seemslikeadream]

8. Zeitgeist

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

You would think that a guy who rose from the dead and ascended into Heaven for all eyes to see and performed the wealth of miracles acclaimed to him would have made it into the historical record. It didn't because once the evidence is weighed, there are very high odds that the figure known as Jesus, did not even exist

[RufusTFirefly]

10. Uh-oh! Now you've done it!

Expect thunderstorms in your area.

[seemslikeadream]

11. (*_*) Jesus was the Solar Deity of the Gnostic Christian sect

:hi:

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/transcript.htm

The reality is, Jesus was the Solar Deity of the Gnostic Christian sect, and like all other Pagan gods, he was a mythical figure. It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. By 325 a.d. in Rome, emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea. It was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian Doctrines were established and thus began a long history of Christian bloodshed and spiritual fraud. And for the next 1600 years, the Vatican maintained a political stranglehold on all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the Dark Ages, along with enlightening events such as the Crusades, and the Inquisition.

Christianity, along with all other theistic belief systems, is the fraud of the age. It serves to detach the species from the natural world, and likewise, each other. It supports blind submission to authority. It reduces human responsibility to the effect that "God" controls everything, and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of Divine Pursuit. And most importantly, it empowers those who know the truth but use the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is the most powerful device ever created, and serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish

[RufusTFirefly]

12. Yup. Without the imprimatur of Constantine...

... it might have been just another short-lived cult.

[AlbertCat]

14. Damn him!

[Moonwalk]

20. We might all have been worshiping Mithra in that case....

It was running a close second at the time Constantine went for the Cross in the sky as his religion. Of course, Christianity had an asset that Mithraism did not: it allowed women. The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world, so the religion of mom is often the religion that the child learns and maintains. Mithra there was a guys only religion. Also very military. Less inclusive of the nerds than Christianity.

Not that any of this has anything to do with Ricky-the-Used-Car Salesman.

[cagesoulman]

15. Wow, is that post for real?

Why should I believe a movie?

[seemslikeadream]

16. You don't have to believe a movie

research it and make up your own mind

[Locrian]

18. thanks for the transcript - saw the movie didnt know about the trans

“ My father says almost the whole world’s asleep. Everybody you know, everybody you see, everybody you talk to. He says only a few people are awake. And they live in a state of constant, total amazement."

[Moonwalk]

22. There are some problems with the references and arguments....

We'll grant that Jesus took over Mithras' birthday, no argument. But the original Jesus story suggests birth in spring, not winter as there are shepherds out with their lambs which they wouldn't be unless lambs were birthing in spring. The birthday was actually argued about once the church was established, not created when the stars in Orion's belt would work as the "star" of the wise men. It was actually much more simple for the church to deliberately (and they did do it deliberately) take over Mithras' birthday. Christianity would do this over and over again--take a popular pagan holiday that the locals refused to give up and make it a feast day, or take a popular pagan god that the locals would not give up and make them saint or devil. Mithras' Birthday which also falls around the time of the popular Roman festival Saturnalia, and Winter Solstice. Three birds with one stone. The pagans keep their holiday but worship Jesus during it. Win-Win.

Next, if you try to argue Mithras with Christians they'll tell you he was actually born out of an egg not in a manger. Mithras myth has different origins, so be careful using that one. Of course, Horus born to Isis follows the Jesus birth myth pretty well, with her on the run and giving birth to him hidden in a cave. Likewise, the sacrificial god who dies so that everyone else can live is a very old myth. You can go back to Innana, a goddess who visits the land of the dead, is killed, hangs from a hook for three days and is resurrected. Prometheus sacrifices himself to give man fire, etc. Even the Mayans, I believe had such a myth with a corn god who sacrifices himself for his starving people. In short, in certain cases it was quite easy to swap out the pagan god for Jesus as the myth was pretty much the same.

As for the cross, it certainly helped that Romans did, indeed, crucify people, as the Jewish cult that was waiting for the Messiah to save them from Roman oppression could easily use this as a viable way of how their leader died--whether that really happened or not. Once again, the popularity of the cross makes it easy to switch out Jesus with local pagan gods using that emblem.

The problem, Zeitgeist, is that none of this is going to convince or convert anyone who is one of the faithful, as the argument always is that you must believe out of faith, not because of evidence. Contrary facts are god's test to see if you really believe, right? So as interesting as some of these points may be--though flawed in cases--they won't make any difference to most Christians.

[snake in the grass]

9. It's always ok to lie...

...when you do it for God.

[tooeyeten]

24. liar liar pants on fire

[Voice for Peace]

25. wow, that pod person looks and sounds EXACKLY like Rick Warren!! nt