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Sat Jun-20-09 12:04 PM
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| Ed Schultz Rails Over Spineless Democrats w/Bernie Sanders |
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:20 PM
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| 1. I can't believe the Dems are freaking out again |
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Pass HR676 NOW. How many more have to die thanks to the high quality of health care in America before anything is done http://www.wisecountyissues.com/?p=62 Clearly Profit Care is more important than Patient Care.
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:20 PM
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| 2. Ed has been GREAT on this issue. -eom |
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:23 PM
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| 3. Ed is right. The Democrats do not want Franken to be seated; they may have too many votes |
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and will actually have to do something. Gutless. Zero leadership. Zero results for the people.
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:33 PM
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| 4. Yep. 60 votes will leave Spineless Reid without any more excuses |
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and God Forbid he might have to do his job.
(although I'd much rather see someone else doing it. Someone who actually would)
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:35 PM
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| 6. Reid is useless. Pelosi is not much better. |
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:34 PM
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| 5. The Dems need an ED-ucation! |
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:29 PM
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:41 PM
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:44 PM
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Call it the "IRAQI HEALTH PLAN". The fucker would sail right through congress tomorrow. There's no shortage of money for fucking endless war. $$$ and Dems like Baucus are selling us out and continue feasting at the trough.
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:45 PM
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:54 PM
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| 10. Why in the world are we going to let the people who caused these problems |
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...... (insurance, HMOs, big Pharma, and a for profit health care industry) in on the fix?
Single payer national health care now. These bastards have been fighting health care reform since Truman. And it is crippling our businesses too ..... not only do they have to run their companies, turn a profit, and so much more but now they have to provide health care to their workers.
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:23 PM
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| 13. That seems to be the blueprint |
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At least with the banks it was. Cause a problem, get a bailout and collect your bonus.
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Sat Jun-20-09 12:59 PM
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| 11. Ed is awesome--I 've watched the ever increasing spinelessness of my party |
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and I just...don't...get it....and also don't get ( although not happening as much lately) some people on DU who think Ed's a Dino or whatever....he's not only one of us , but one of the best of us. Keep up the good fight Big Eddie. We need you to keep on keepin on.
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:01 PM
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| 12. Fuck pink tutu Daschle |
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:27 PM
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What Obama should have pushed through first, with his political capital, was public financing for all elections. That should have been the first step. That would have freed his spineless Democrat peers from their fear of being cut off from the big business gravy train, to fund their campaigns, that they need in order to compete with their opponents who are always licking the feet of the same donors. Of course FAUX News would be on fire if Obama tried this, but they are never going to cool down on Obama anyways.
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Sat Jun-20-09 01:42 PM
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| 15. Such vulgar cowardice... |
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exhibited by Baucus, etc. is sickening. They're simply bought and paid for. A comprehensive, national healthcare plan could win elections to come. It's prime time for action: a Dem president with significant majorities in both houses. If not now, when?
What's especially galling is that our elected reps have some version of a public option, do they not? Hey Congress (with some notable exceptions), if the insurance parasites are so damned wonderful, how about giving up your version of health insurance?
One shouldn't be financially ruined because one gets sick.
:grr:
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:07 PM
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| 16. My first husband (deceased now) suffered with back-aches off and on for about a year due to what |
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we found - ONCE THE INSURANCE COMPANY ALLOWED HIM TO HAVE AN MRI - to be leasions on his spine, which were a side effect of metastisizing lung-cancer.
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Sat Jun-20-09 02:12 PM
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| 17. And for those of you who may be wondering: Yes, I am 0 for 2 now. |
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Both of them from cancers and I can't help but wonder how different their health care may have been if we'd had more money.
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Sat Jun-20-09 03:38 PM
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| 22. Dear God, I don't even know what to say except I'm so sorry |
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that is heartbreaking and sickening at the same time. All us are apparently disposable offerings to the shrine of the profit.
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:38 PM
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| 27. Thank you for your empathy. Good Men, both of them. |
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Did all of the stuff that they were supposed to do - ALL of it - no whining, no messing around, one close to retirement, the other newly retired, and . . . . . . .
I know chance figures in to what happened to them, but I know too if we lived in a less toxic culture and "health" "care" paid for things like regular chest x-rays or health support groups for people at risk for some things, the chances/probabilities would have been different.
__________ died just a couple of weeks ago; I'm still feeling like he's just in the other room.
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Sat Jun-20-09 05:53 PM
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| 25. I am so sorry for your losses.... |
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My husband got into an argument with a "lady" (I would have called her something else) on a reporter's facebook page saying she didn't want her husband's health care taken away from her for a public option because her son had medical problems. I think you know where that went - why shouldn't everybody be entitled to the health care her son is getting now! She was STUPID enough to say people do get that care by just going to emergency rooms - like you can get a scan there or a colonoscopy - or chemo treatments there?
I only wish you had the options she and her husband evidently have now!
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Sat Jun-20-09 08:49 PM
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| 28. Yes, do insurance companies, perhaps, refuse to pay for regular chest x-rays |
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(the way that they pay for pap-smears and mammograms) because of the number of lung cancers they will find, for which they will have to finance expensive treatments with relatively low success rates?
There are those of us who, successful therapies aside, would have liked at least a little more time with our loved ones. Perhaps we can't really expect more time even if we had known more and earlier what was going on and engaged in some therapy to respond to it, but the chance to have acquired more time would still be worth it to me.
As you can see, human beings function on a different kind of cost:benefit analysis than corporations do.
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Sat Jun-20-09 05:57 PM
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| 26. I Understand - I often wonder the same thing about my wife |
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I wonder if she would still be with me were it not for the Insurers power over her care and the delays that killed her.
I offer this instead of condolences because I do understand and realize there are no adequate words :hug:
I can only speak for myself but I will never forgive them - or move on - or get over it because I will never be over her, she is the love of my life and was my best friend - not a number on a spreadsheet.
I take their spinelessness and corruption quite personally. It is more than just an issue disagreement, it is peoples lives and loves and such things could never be worth less than any amount of blood money they take from the lobbyists that own them.
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Sat Jun-20-09 09:06 PM
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| 29. It IS undeniable that things would be different if profit weren't THE purpose of "health" "care" |
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You are right; there are no words. Yeah, I believe in "something greater than us" yada, yada, and etc. etc. etc., but that doesn't change how completely and totally un-acceptable the facts are. And how disappointed I am that my future years are not going to be what I had well within reach 2 times. We were happy, everything had worked out, except . . .
I will never forget how in-adequate and helpless the whole system is, how FAR behind the curve it operates, how reactionary and late it is.
I am deeply and personally motivated now by dreams of what it should be like.
I will NEVER give up.
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Sat Jun-20-09 03:27 PM
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| 19. before ed gets too carried away |
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perhaps he ought focus on the fact that the republicans are doing everything they can to thwart reform.
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Sat Jun-20-09 03:30 PM
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American citizens should be marching in the streets, like the Iranians. The French are great for marching in the streets too.
Not than your MSM would cover hundreds of thousands of American citizens marching for single-payer option. They'd say it was a few anarchists, and commies.
God forbid the American voters should get what they want when the politicians are owned by Big Pharma and the insurance companies.
This makes my blood boil and my blood pressure go up. Good thing Canada will take care of me if I have a stroke.
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Sat Jun-20-09 03:37 PM
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| 21. Ed has been surprisingly great & tough supporting the workers on his MSNBC show. I TIVO |
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Edited on Sat Jun-20-09 03:40 PM by GreenTea
his show now at 3:00 each day, I love Ed's now wavering support for single payer health care for all and his strong support of workers UNIONS...Go ED!
That 76% is no doubt higher, more like around 80%!!
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Sat Jun-20-09 05:11 PM
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| 23. "Call it Iraqi health care"!!!Sheeet! Shultz should run for office. Hard hittin' SOB. K&R..... |
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Sun Jun-21-09 12:24 PM
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| 30. Kick for health care for ALL |
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