This Is What's Happening (Aug 1st) At The Health Care Townhalls- Rep Doggett

[masuki bance]

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Is this what they plan on doing at all of them?

edit to add this from the link-

Rep Doggett met with constituents outside a grocery store in south Austin regarding the health care bill. Apparently the event was mostly advertised in liberal leaning local publications. He did not bring a megaphone, so hearing what he had to say was difficult. When he started making the move to leave, the crowd erupted chanting "Just say no!" His worker got the car ready to shuttle him away but the crowd surrounded it and it took a while for him to get out of the parking lot. The whole time, the "Just say no!" chant continued. It probably won't matter - from his facial expression, body language, and what was heard to come out of his mouth, he's for the the health care bill in its present form and has no openness to change on that.

(Ten thousand megapardons for the out of focus video - the D90 does not autofocus when shooting video and no shorter lens was handy to throw on the camera.)

[valerief]

1. A sea of negative whiteness. nt

[drm604]

2. The uninformed leading the ignorant.

:crazy:

[timeforpeace]

16. Why are they labeled Repukes? ID checks? Are no Dems upset about health care?

[drm604]

17. I'm not sure I understand your question.

Are you asking why I'm assuming that they're Republicans?

Read their signs. "No Government Health Care". "No Government Counselor in my Home!" And they're chanting "just say no". I think it's safe to assume that most of the people in this crowd are Republican.

[timeforpeace]

41. Oh, you're assuming. Hey, not all Dems are for this bill. It's an insurance company giveaway.

[drm604]

53. That's not what they're protesting.

No, I am not assuming that all Dems are for "this bill". I'm not even sure what "this bill" is yet. There are different versions and even those will probably change before it's settled.

Read their signs. They are not protesting an insurance company giveaway. It appears to be an unfocused protest against government involvement in general. In other words, it's a protest in favor of private insurance. That's fine. That's their right. But I think you may be misunderstanding what they're protesting.

[KittyWampus]

20. are you really this dense? You keep bleeting the same thing. Did you even WATCH THE VIDEO?r

It's freaking obviously Republicans and it's obvious they are disrupters.

[TheEuclideanOne]

50. You should watch the video. It will certainly answer your question.

I am being kind and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not that stupid. So, to keep things civil, let's assume that you commented without watching the video and just automatically drew some kind of assumption that anybody who has been educating themself about the healthcare issue would never draw.

[TheEuclideanOne]

51. ALERT. ALERT.

"Just say no". It is a pretty simple concept and may actually catch on. I am being serious here. We seem to be letting this slip away and the Repukes are good at gathering the masses, keeping it simple and staying on message. Give them some time and they can use it effectively. Not only that, but they are pretty well practiced at Saying "No", so this might be an easy one to follow.

[hobbit709]

3. What a bunch of maroons

and the comments on the youtube page-:puke:
Especially weasler455

[BREMPRO]

25. Maroon-shirts... our Nazi Brown-shirt agitator/enforcers n/t

[KittyWampus]

4. Yes, apparently they won't allow any discussion. These are sick people who are going to drag us all

down with them unless we do something.

[muntrv]

5. Next time these astroturfers show up, call 911 and report a riot

in progress. Then point out the agitators as the terrorists.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

THIS ALL STARTED WITH THE DEMO CONVENTION IN 1968

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THE MOB RULE AND DISRUPTION BY THE RIGHT.

[jwirr]

15. Are there other ways to get the word out? What they are doing here is

making sure that no one hears to truth about the health care bills. Think about all those emails we get from the rw. there are a lot email addresses on those. Is there a way to turn this back on them? We could also buy more ads than they do. I don't know but at this point I think Gov. Perry had a good idea - at least that group of people should secede from the union. They deserve to be on their own.

[Cha]

6. Rec'd~ Let's get this

Viral..they want to play hard ball..this needs to be the example of how to counteract it. For one thing bring a megaphone.

[dhpgetsit]

7. What a bunch of ignorant slobs.

They should take their parents off Medicare and buy some good old corporate health care from United Health.

[ProSense]

8. Posted by "dumpdoggett"?

RW video.

[masuki bance]

10. You're quick.

The memos detailing this strategy were also RW.

[ProSense]

13. You're not.

Weren't they posted by ThinkProgress?

Big difference hitting TP than some wingnut's YouTube post.

[masuki bance]

35. Oh good grief. Your hall monitor schtick is really lame. nt

[ProSense]

54. Hall monitor?

I dislike wingnuts and the shit they produce. Period.

[sasquatch]

9. Southern baby boomers: the biggest bunch of Jackasses that inhabit our Republic

[bjobotts]

29. Tx has the most expensive HC ins, with the least coverage and the most people without coverage

[bjobotts]

30. So led by the wealthy that starving they would push the bread away and scream just say no

[bjobotts]

31. Just say loud mouth, mis informed, stupid.Don't evenknow what they are saying no to

[bjobotts]

32. Not one of them. Just say yes to Medicare for all makes it so much simpler.

[bjobotts]

34. Good ole TX townhall mtg, just shout everyone down so there's no discussion

[bjobotts]

36. Hey TX, the MAJORITY says yes.

[bjobotts]

38. Without even hearing what it's all about they just start screaming what they were told to say.

[drm604]

11. Notice that one sign?

"No gov't counselor in my home!!!"

Looks like the euthanasia BS is catching on, unfortunately.

[handmade34]

12. marketers that are successful encourage brand loyality

the people marketing Republican ideas don't confuse people with the facts, the organizers of the tea-bag parties and the 9/12 Project are business types and know what sells.

http://www.the912project.com/

[KittyWampus]

14. I've tried to make that point many times on DU. Democrats seem to think it's about making

a rational argument.

It isn't.

It's about convincing people to buy/choose your ideas.

[handmade34]

21. nothing rational about tea-baggers or birthers

it offends my sensibilities to think about resorting to Republican/business marketing techniques because it treats citizens (people/constituents/voters) as merely numbers/targeted objects/means to an end... But as we have become a society that thinks primarily in term of dollars... (I feel like we live in a parallel universe along side the conservatives)

[Fendius]

18. Im becoming sick

I am almost losing hope that "america" is on the right track... This is disgusting to me.. How long have we been this mislead? These are still humans... Dumb as fuck ones. But they are soooo mislead! And before we bitch about them, realize outside of your bubble for one second, OUR country made them like this...

[thunder rising]

22. ??? There is a good chance that many of the protesters are simply racists doing whatever is possible

to demean Obama's Presidency. Furthermore, others are certainly insurance industry plants. The remainder are the ignorant that are comfortable with being ignorant.

[handmade34]

26. that is why we must do whatever is in our power

to deprogram them

[PassingFair]

19. This is why Tim Bishop stopped doing Town Halls...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6195346&mesg_id=6195346

In case any of us were wondering....

[Monk06]

23. As a fat 50 something white person I am appalled. I used to be proud to be an old fat white guy.

[handmade34]

27. I'm still proud of you

...you spelled all your words correctly

[Monk06]

37. Well I'm not drunk yet so give me a few minates. n/t

[proud patriot]

24. Is there a way to cover everyone but the ignorant fucks in this vid?

I cannot understand their stupidity

[Politicalboi]

28. There's a comedy movie to made of this

And I mean all of this. Going back to the primaries. Maybe if it comes in that form, the stupid ones protesting for the rich just might get it. Ahhh Then again, maybe not.

[Monk06]

39. Well this movie might explain it .........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxzdkaaafms

also more on the same theme social conformity
and scotsmanship

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbb6pZLfzU&NR=1

[handmade34]

42. oh, goodness

when I see a Monty Python skit I haven't seen before, I realize how lacking my life is... funny though and funnier also because I used to have a manfriend that was a Black Watch WWI reenactor and he played the bagpipes so well (that and the kilt were the only things I missed about him) Well, I admit, I did get to see the real Black Watch in action also... (I don't share very often but - I am a sucker for a military tattoo)

[hootinholler]

33. How many of those assholes are on medicare?

I can't fucking believe it.

-Hoot

[HubertHeaver]

46. Most of them appear to be on Medicare or very nearly so.

[asdjrocky]

40. What does this remind me of?

Let's go back about 9 years to Fl and the Brooks Brothers riots. This is how they win.

[Hulk]

43. this is disgraceful......but it's Texas, after all.

If this is how the public plans to attend town halls, then I guess they will shut themselves out. Such angry, ignorant butt heads. I hope this representative goes with WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, and F*CK these bozos. I would be so upset if I were him. You have to remember..this is most likely a minority of the people he represents, but being loud and rude is what the right wing does best.

A sad day for Texas.

[girl gone mad]

48. This isn't just happening in Texas.

Don't delude yourself.

If this was in Austin, I can assure you they were carpetbaggers.

[swaroop]

44. Canadian life expatancy is longer than American

Canadian health care system is better.

[masuki bance]

45. Yes, but Americans know how to spell. nt

[global1]

47. Deja Vu - Florida 2000

Remember this?

All the Repugs need is one video like this one from Texas. MSM will be playing this all of August. All they need is one such display of ignorance and they'll turn it into a big deal and say that people everywhere are reacting like this.

This is organized and stage for effect. I went to a Town Hall in the Chicago Area about 2 weeks ago - a Dem Congressman that borders on being a Blue Dog. He still hasn't declared whether he is for a strong 'public option' yet.

Anyway - at least one attendee at that Town Hall was carrying a "Don't Thread On Me" flag like the one in the video from Texas.
There were about 300 people at the Town Hall I attended and I would say about 90% supported the public option.

What are we going to do about outbreaks like this? I think the Repugs will stage these all over the country over this recess.

We can yell louder and there's more of us that want this than don't. We need to fight fire with fire. Yell louder and maker bigger signs.

[Chipper Chat]

52. Yuppers - I immediately thought of this too.

This gathering was meticulously planned by the GOP - notice the nice clothing and well-fed upper-middle classers. Prolly coordinated from Dallas area churches. But if these folks are Austinites they must be from the far north section. It's just all too wierd.

[dysfunctional press]

49. can i seek political asylum in france yet?

:grr: :banghead: