Have Americans become useful idiots for Koch Industries?

[Nostalgic]

Run time: 09:17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2b-K3Foz9k   Posted on YouTube: April 02, 2010 By YouTube Member: thomhartmann Views on YouTube: 50   Posted on DU: April 03, 2010 By DU Member: Nostalgic Views on DU: 1129

 
This interview is from Thom Hartmann.

[szatmar666]

1. the moral depravity of the "free market" nonsense

it offers perfect justification for the most preposterous intellectual dishonesty and corruption

[Overseas]

2. K&R. Very strange guest, though.

Bizarre haughty attitude in response to Thom outing right wing propaganda techniques in play, i.e. revelation that "climate gate" climate data actually held up in a quiet NYT article, and that Koch Industries poured nearly $50 million into 40 different groups to pretend there was widespread skepticism about global warming.

Too much truth for the haughty kid, so he resorted to the Oh My Goodness, Heavens No, you're not some conspiracy nut are you? You really think there is corporate money influencing our public discourse and news networks! Oh good gracious... so I'm glad Thom got a bit impatient and reminded his guest that he wasn't born yesterday and had run some ad companies and understood marketing and PR quite well, thank you. But the guy just wanted to pump the line that one just must be a wild-eyed radical to look for the influence of right wing funding and corporate money on dedicated ideologically pure nonprofits like his.

Couldn't answer the facts on the ground about millions of dollars expended on corporate and right wing professional advocacy of anti-government propaganda and pro-war messaging during the previous administration, so the guest had to resort to how dare you ask those questions?

But it was shocking to learn that the Huge Scandal Climate-Gate Corrupt Data -- was a trumped up game. The data held up. Glad Rachel Maddow took that up too. A week of Big Shocking Scandal Climate-Gate, and then an official inquiry discovered that the data discussed was perfectly legitimate. But the stories of Shame Shame Shame were so very dramatic. Koch's $50 million added to Exxon Mobil's millions buys you some very fancy hardball PR.

Enough with the guerilla PR-- making stuff up like crushing ACORN with the fake pimp video steamroller propaganda. That was masterful, wasn't it. Turns out the guy wasn't wearing the Disney Pimp get- up when he visited the offices. The raw video, allowed to be held back from release until demanded by California Attorney General Jerry Brown in our official investigation, reveals a very different story than the one splashed across all our TV screens for many days in a row.

So much of the right wing political PR involves making things up. We have serious issues to discuss as a nation, so the right wing PR pros need to divert us into fearful melodrama.

[kas125]

3. I haven't even watched the video yet, but my answer is

YES!!! Most people have never heard of the Koch brothers, but the ones who have been paying attention know that the answer to your question is definitely and unfortunately yes.

[90-percent]

4. guest behavior

He simply filibustered Thom.

It brings the guest's credibility into question when he has to rely on not letting Thom speak in order to make his talking points.

Can't these people debate their points on their merits, instead of relying on theatrics and sleigh of hand when they are being interviewed?

This guy had nothing and Thom took an AK-47 to a tidily winks match, metaphorically speaking.

-90% Jimmy

Said it on DU before, Frank Luntz, the father of global warming denier propaganda, in one hundred years, will occupy the same space in the history books as Hitler and Mussolini and Pol Pot and Idi Amin, among many others, as one of the worst people to have every existed in human history. In terms of the damage and death his words will wreak on all of humanity, including the wealthy!

-90% Jimmy

[valerief]

5. I LOVE Thom Hartmann. His guest was paid wh0re. The world is full of them. nt

[Mithreal]

6. Thank you.