Glenn Greenwald DEBATES Lawrence O'Donnell on BLUE DOGS

[Segami]

Run time: 12:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMRf1mpcHeI   Posted on YouTube: November 10, 2010 By YouTube Member: hidnusr10 Views on YouTube: 316   Posted on DU: November 10, 2010 By DU Member: Segami Views on DU: 805

 
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GO GLEN!!!

[scentopine]

1. Exactly - we need to flush the DLC send them to the republicans -nt

[montanacowboy]

2. Greenwald is right on point

He says it so everyone can understand it, we must get rid of all Blue Dogs, the DLCers. If we cannot stand for the people then we are nothing, we are worse than the Repukes, at least they make no bones about what they believe in.

[scentopine]

3. The difference between now and then as far as health care perceptions...

is the huge escalation in price of coverage, the escalation of the insurance lobby and for-profit health care, the escalation of off-shoring of jobs, unemployment, the outrageous plundering of tax dollars to bailout wall street, the wars, corruption, etc.

It is a different time, now. Liberals, all the while under attack by centrists, did a very good job with few resources over many years to build the case for single-payer.

Worried that this real solution would solve a huge social illness but limit their profits, CEOs funneled your insurance premiums into the pockets of congress and the executive branch, centrists and republicans.

It wouldn't matter if 100% of USA demanded single payer. Congress and executive branch now exist to service corporations.

If people want better health reform it won't happen. Having drained 90% of American's savings, people are unable to compete with corporations for representation.

Our corporate-proxy style government treats us like employees not like citizens.

[Enthusiast]

5. Exactly

Now, most American citizens fully understand that the insurance industry, the for-profit health care delivery system and the pharmaceutical industry are directly responsible for the health care problems of this nation. After many years of being exploited even the socially conservative American recognizes that fact. Of course the media circus and the smoke screen of the town hall health care debate went far to cover this up.

[truth2power]

4. The only quibble I would have with the West Wing clip...

is that what Alan Alda said to Jimmy Smits about a Republican (Lincoln) freeing the slaves isn't exactly true.

Around that time in our history, the Republican and Democratic parties "flip-flopped", so to speak. Lincoln would almost certainly have been a Democrat in today's political arena.

[ProfessorPlum]

7. The definitive flip-flop was in the 1960s

with the Civil Rights legislation.

Lincoln was the FIRST GOP president . . . which explains why there were so many Dixie-crats in the South even up to the 60s.

[truth2power]

9. Yes. What I was trying to get to was that Lincoln, in his political outlook,

would be more akin to Democrats today.

It's my understanding that, in some complex ways around the time of the Civil War, the Republican party morphed into the Democratic party of today.

[proud progressive]

6. although now i consider myself a progressive, as a once lifelong, ignorant, conservative

i still feel that government involvement is often more harmful than it should be. even ss and medicare are horribly structured. as corupt and inept as most of our politicians are at the federal level, we are now discovering that local politics stinks even more.
not sure this will ever happen, but until ACCOUNTABILITY is enforced, government will too often remain a problem.

[ProfessorPlum]

8. Can you give me an example of SS being corrupt and horribly structured?

As far as I can see, it is a great program, run efficiently, that has had enormous success.