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Fri Nov-26-10 08:28 PM
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| TYT: Proof Obama Should Give Up Bipartisan BS |
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Run time: 05:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34L3Y3eXHic
Posted on YouTube: November 25, 2010
By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks
Views on YouTube: 531
Posted on DU: November 27, 2010
By DU Member: alp227
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Fri Nov-26-10 08:35 PM
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| 1. I can understand why it was an option when he first entered office... |
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even though I disagreed with it. But it should never have been used as an excuse or even a real option as long as it was. The fact that he hasn't abandoned it and continues this Clintonian submission to the Right is both alarming and stunning in the face of what everyone hoped and wanted from him.
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Sat Nov-27-10 06:26 AM
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| 2. I don't remember Clinton submitting like this |
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Obama has gone 100,000% well above even the Republican's wildest dreams on the submissions.
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Sat Nov-27-10 10:03 AM
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And Cenk got it exactly right. If Obama doesn't get it yet he never will. For full disclosure I voted for him over Hillary. Now the hypotheticals begin. Would she still not be getting it? Or would she have never let them play her in the first place?
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Sat Nov-27-10 10:30 AM
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| 4. He can't get it. His handlers won't let him. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 10:31 AM by Paranoid Pessimist
Obama "runs" the government about the way Alex Trebek "runs" Jeopardy. He was chosen to be a front man for Wall Street and the Military Industrial Complex. His reward: being in history as the first black president. That distracted air about him that so many have commented on may be that he initially believed he was going to be allowed to do some of this things his campaign promised, but pragmatist that he be, he soon internalized the job duties and set about to enact what his handlers ordered him to enact.
I suppose it's possible he could discover hitherto hidden heart and begin to use the "bully pulpit" to try to get some of what needs to be done accomplished, but if he were to appear to be the least bit effective, he would likely be assassinated (by a lone nut with no provable connection to the Powers That Be, maybe a "birther.")
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Sat Nov-27-10 10:34 AM
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| 5. She gave the rethugs everything they wanted when she was a Senator. |
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In fact she pushed an anti-war Senator off the floor just to tell Bush how he could get away with attacking Iraq under the same premises her husband used. What makes you think she'd "never let them play her in the first place?". The fact that she was playing along the whole time anyway?
I just have to laugh when folks bring this up.
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Sat Nov-27-10 02:08 PM
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| 8. It's Clintonian in terms of philosophy...and Obama is Clinton 2.0 |
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That was fine for the 90s (despite horrors like NAFTA and Glass-Stegall)...but this is a different country.
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Sat Nov-27-10 11:38 AM
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| 6. Cenk is usually right... |
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For the life of me, I don't understand why Cenk gets flack for telling the truth about this administration on other sites (DK). He has yet to be wrong, especially on this account. The President is really either unable, unwilling or just plain naive when it comes to fighting for our convictions. I'm really getting the sense that he doesn't have the same liberal convictions as we do. I didn't vote for him in the primaries. I didn't vote for Clinton either. I always thought there were both to far right to lead the party. But since he won the primaries, I figured maybe I was wrong and just couldn't see what everyone else saw in him. I have realized I was NOT wrong. You would think that a person who just got through paying off school loans wouldn't forget where he came from and those who were with him before he became part of the elite. I'm really sad for us regular people or as the English would call us "the commoners".
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Sat Nov-27-10 02:25 PM
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| 9. On other sites? He gets flack for telling the truth on this site, too. |
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I really don't get it either. People that don't like Cenk have only heard just a few words out of his mouth and they judge him based on that.
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Sat Nov-27-10 09:40 PM
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| 14. There is an army of right wingers who make it their business |
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Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 09:50 PM by ooglymoogly
to get on sites like this one and others like it (democrat or liberal) to make it seem most folks are against truth and common sense; which I guess for many IS the way to troll um that's roll
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Sat Nov-27-10 01:20 PM
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| 7. Do We Really Need More Proof? |
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Sat Nov-27-10 08:38 PM
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Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 08:38 PM by Shining Jack
Too bad I can't recommend.
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Sat Nov-27-10 08:44 PM
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| 12. There are only two scenarios which allow (0) to make any sense. |
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Edited on Sat Nov-27-10 09:43 PM by ooglymoogly
1: He is hopelessly naive and is the biggest and stupidest sucker on earth; which would make him totally and dangerously incompetent as a president.
2: He is a Machiavellian politician using the right as a foil to appear something he is not; to get right wing agendas passed, wars, boondoggles for the rich etc and add infinitum; while grandstanding on the opposite; thereby getting impossible right wing causes in the small print and phony liberal causes in the shout out print, through congress; while at the same time mollifying his gullible base; thinking all the while he is paying his way into the inner circle of string pullers; the uber rich; a "made man", so to speak, as have the Clinton's. If this is the case; he is nothing but a step'n fetchit whore for the overlords; who are playing him for a sucker and a fool.
Neither of these two scenarios is very comforting.
In either case he does not seem to know he is pissing against the wind and "we" are his drenched but still cheering backdrop (that "we" would be some to many of us).
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Sun Nov-28-10 03:12 AM
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| 16. I think he's too clever for his own good like President Clinton and rationalises to himself, |
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Edited on Sun Nov-28-10 03:29 AM by anAustralianobserver
for lack of courage, that it's sometimes necessary to become part of the problem in order to become part of the ultimate solution.
He probably regrets not using a come-out-fighting strategy—but it's hard to know because he rarely says *what's really on his mind* directly to the public.
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Sun Nov-28-10 02:54 AM
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| 15. Cenk really expresses the exasperation-squared in this one! |
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