Cenk Uygur's response to the Obama federal pay freeze

[alp227]

Run time: 04:48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yjNG2JYF6M   Posted on YouTube: November 30, 2010 By YouTube Member: TheYoungTurks Views on YouTube: 302   Posted on DU: November 30, 2010 By DU Member: alp227 Views on DU: 1134

 

[Hawkowl]

1. Nails it

Obama's idiotic strategy of rolling over and giving rethuglicans what they want, thinking they will give him something other than a swift kick in the balls.

One term. That is all Obama is going to get.

[quark219]

2. +1

[slay]

3. At this point

i'm hoping he only gets one term. i really am. if this is how he leads, the democratic party is in desperate need of a new leader. we sure as hell don't need a republican but we damn well deserve better than this!!!

[breadandwine]

6. There's a simple way to put hair on Obama's chest and make him a 2-termer.

All progressives on Capitol Hill would have to do is tell Obama that if he doesn't become a Democrat and have some balls that they are going to support GOP efforts to probe and impeach him. Bingo. Watch every appeaser and DLCer in the White House crap in their pants and toughen up by Tuesday. Two can play the pressure game. Obama can't afford to have BOTH parties against him. It wouldn't last long because by Tuesday Obama would remember who brung him to the party --- the base. He may not give a crap about holding the House, but he will sure as hell give a crap about his own party assisting an impeachment drive. Obama would instantly toughen up and we could all go back to the luvvy duvvy within the Democratic party. It would all be over by Tuesday and we would finally have a Democratic president.

[JTFrog]

8. That's hilarious.

The "base".

The small vocal minority that would actually consider any such action only pretends that it's the "base".

[TheEuclideanOne]

9. Another option would be to support a different democrat in the next election

I think that it would be crazy to think that the Democratic party would support impeachment of a democrat on whatever the Republicans throw out as their reason for impeachment. For example, can you even imagine Democrats getting behind Obama on the grounds that he is not a US Citizen? What if we supported somebody who would do what Senator Obama promised, somebody like a Howard Dean or Alan Grayson. How cool would a President Grayson be?

[slay]

12. Indeed

Personally, I would LOVE to see President Grayson in 2012. I'm very open to seeing who would like to challenge Obama in the primaries for the Dem nomination. I like Howard Dean as well - he was great on Rachel last night. :hi:

[TheEuclideanOne]

13. It would also be a beautiful act of Irony.

Grayson lost in large part due to the money that was put behind his opponents and now that he is freed up, imagine if he took the office of the POTUS? :)

On a related note, I thought that it was hilarious that "CongressmanWithGuts.com" was available. I guess that there was not really a need for that domain, eh? I just bought the domain CongressmanWithEthics.com. As I would expect, it was available due to a lack of demand.

The two people that I was really unhappy to see go were Grayson and Feingold. Still shocked at how giddy so many people are to have people in office now that have so clearly broadcasted that they have no intention of doing anything for the people that elected them.

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14. I too was very upset to see Grayson and Feingold go

two of the best - hell two of the few good ones. It shocks me too that people will continually vote against people who actually really do want to help them. Hopefully the upcoming generation will do some real research into the people running before they blindly cast their votes based solely on corporate funded attack ads. It only took me less than a year to figure out Obama was full of it - while it took Republicans 8 years to figure it out with Bush - and now for some reason people think Republican is a good idea again? Unreal.

Gotta blame Obama for a lot of this - he's acted like their best friend more often than not - while they stab him in the back. If he won't stand up and fight these fuckers, we need to find someone who will.

[TheEuclideanOne]

16. They don't stab him in the back

They look at him face to face, them holding a knife and him holding a gun and ask him "Put the gun down and turn around so I can stab you in the back" and he says "okay". After a few stabbings, it doesn't matter that he has a gun.

I make this point because, although I completely get your point, this is so bizarre that the traditional metaphors for getting deceived do not even apply. Normally, the other side has to trick their opponent into losing ground in some way. In today's environment, Obama knows full well that they opponent wants to destroy him. There is no surprise here. Maybe getting stabbed in the front applies to Obama more. Getting stabbed in the back would suggest that he was taken by suprise.

My apologies in advance for parsing your analogy too much. Just very frustrated after having such high hopes, like yourself, for Obama and our party.

[slay]

17. I think you're spot on

Obama has huge potential power that he just REFUSES to use. It's like watching a fighter forget how to fight. But you're right - after the Republicans kept blocking everything he ""wanted"" he had to know they are the enemy - why doesn't he fight back is the question. Is he a puppet for corporate America? Is he getting bad advice? Does he really believe the "bi-partisan" crap he spews? I don't get it and am frustrated as well. Your analogy is better though because he does seem to just keep letting it happen. And keeping us in Afghanistan longer than the Soviet Union was there and that bankrupted their country. And we didn't get anything near real health care reform. And he never even once attempted to investigate the war crimes of the Bush administration when you KNOW the republicans would have had nothing but hearings if that shit had gone on under a Dem president! Seriously - what good are the Democrats these days - it seems like all they do is cover for the Republicans!

I think we're being played.

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[activa8tr]

10. I agree 100% This was a BONE HEADED move!

No question about it.

[HDPaulG]

4. Another Obama Fail

Concedes to concessions when nothing was 'on the table' and received nothing in return. This will be 'trickle down' economics. Federal employee's -> State employee's->County employee's->City employee's->Municipal employee's-> PRIVATE SECTOR employee's. Exemption's for Wall Street. Obama Fail again...Get new advisor's for gods sake

[Hawkowl]

5. He doesn't want new advisors

I think we have to face reality. The reality is Obama has a firm belief in conservative, supply side, free trade economics. He is not doing these things accidentally.

[GOTV]

11. "Here's my queen. Do you like me now?" - Nails Obama's negotiation strategy

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