Olbermann SPECIAL COMMENT: Not Disloyal to Say Obama 'Goddamned Wrong;' Republicans 'Treasonous'

[Hissyspit]

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MSNBC Countdown w/ KEITH OLBERMANN - 7 Dec. 2010: Olbermann's Special Comment on the deal on the wealthiest Americans tax-cut extension.

OLBERMANN: "In exchange for selling out a principle campaign pledge and the people to whom and for whom it was made...

In exchange for betraying the truth that the idle and corporate rich of this country have gotten unprecedented and wholly indefensible tax cuts for a decade...

In exchange for giving the idle and corporate rich of this country two more years to accumulate still more and more vast piles of personal wealth with which they can buy and sell everybody else...

In exchange for extending what he spent the weeks before the midterms calling 'tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires' to people who have proven without a scintilla of doubt, without even a fig leaf of phony effort to make it look like they would do otherwise, that they will keep the money for themselves...

In exchange for injecting new vigor into the infantile, moronic, disproved for a decade, three-card monty game of an economic theory purveyed by these treacherous and ultimately traitorous Republicans, that tax cuts for the rich will somehow lead to job creation - even though if that had ever been true in the slightest, the economy would not be where it is today...

In exchange for giving tax cuts for the rich, which the nation cannot afford, and extending their vintage through the next election, and thus promising, AT BEST, a re-enactment of this whole sorry, amoral, degrading spectacle during the 2012 Presidential campaign, when the sides will be climbing over each other to again extend these cuts...

In exchange for this searing and transcendent capitulation...

The President got just 13 months of extended benefits for those unemployed for less than a hundred weeks, and they got nothing, absolutely nothing, for those unemployed for longer, the 99ers."

MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/vp/40559453#40559453

[myrna minx]

1. Thank you for posting. K&R n/t

[saigon68]

136. Awesome-----

Especially the part about how the Base is Naive

1420 Gold Star Mothers can thank this nit-wit for continuing WAR

[Ninga]

2. Thanks! Hope a transcript pops up.

[Hissyspit]

55. TRANSCRIPT Here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40557029/ns/msnbc_tv-countdown_with_keith_olbermann/

[Justpat]

139. Thanks. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

3. "The blind rage conservative for whom any compromise is disaster..."

Oh my! Mammoth irony overload! Haha.

Still love you, KO... But the melodramatics were a bit too heavy this time.

[RetroLounge]

19. Blah, Blah, Blah

Good luck on defending this, no one except a few of you will be buying this BS anymore.

One and Done.

RL

[jefferson_dem]

24. Rooting for defeat of the Democratic President...on the Democratic Underground.

Priceless.

[Name removed]

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[L. Coyote]

183. Welcome to DU.

Obviously you are new here, and know little about DU's oldest alumni.

[emilyg]

45. Keep rooting for the prez. I will root for my country.

[RetroLounge]

80. +1000

:hi:

RL

[Enthusiast]

116. Exactly.

:fistbump:

[AndrewP]

187. Bingo

[Goldstein1984]

60. This isn't about party, president or platform...

it's about principles and people.

[RetroLounge]

81. +1000

:hi:

RL

[lark]

159. Lack of principles is his real & major problem

Hence - scorn.

[RetroLounge]

82. Nope, I'm rooting for our country and its people

Not some godhead on a poster on my wall.

RL

[jefferson_dem]

107. So, you will make your best effort to make sure your "one and done" projection does not come true?

Unless, of course, you think "our country and it's people" are no better served by a Democratic president than a Teabagger president.

[Javaman]

123. False choice.

That's no better than "if you don't like our country, then leave".

Sorry, you can do better.

[truedelphi]

172. Huh? Some of us are very sick of the

" 'Oh! Noes! It is Obama the Colluder or Palin the Idiot dicotomy,' so start pretending Obama is not disappointing and start supporting him."

In 1958, young John F Kennedy was not even a glimmer in the eye of the Democratic Party handlers.
And yet in 1960...

[Can of Whoop-ass]

143. I'm not ready

to say Obama is worse than Chimpy Bush, "Wimpy" Senior or Saint Raygoon but he's pressing it.

[axollot]

84. pfffffffffft! I busted my bum for Obama to be a Democrat not

for him to be Raygun Republican in the 21st century. This is going to cost him big time in political capital. To many on both sides complained that tax cuts are not the answer - now he owns them. God bless this country we need it.

WE arent wishing for him to fail - but it's like watching a horror movie in slo-mo as a Democrat.

Cheers
Sandy

[Name removed]

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[GOTV]

105. We should be supporting the president in doing the wrong thing?

When the president is wrong we should oppose him.

[jefferson_dem]

106. Personally, I have no problem with substantive criticisms of the President.

It's celebrating the "One and Done" defeatist nonsense that I object too. We all should.

[GOTV]

111. Well. I'm hoping the president is defeated on this tax plan. If he won't fight, he shouldn't win.

[Enthusiast]

117. Might as well get behind

another candidate now. Get prepared. No sense in expecting President Obama to win the nomination because it is not going to happen.

[jefferson_dem]

140. Ha.

Right. I'll happily wager you on that -- and give you 2:1 odds.

[RaleighNCDUer]

174. if he gets the nominations (which he admittedly probably will)

he will lose the election.

[RaleighNCDUer]

173. A stated fact is not a celebration.

He'd have to be a goddam magician to get a second term after this. He just handed the presidency to whatever nutjob the Republicans put up.

[Upfront]

121. What?

What Democratic President? Sure as hell not obama.

[Javaman]

125. yup.

There is a whole contingency here on DU that are caught up in the details, that they fail to see how truly far we have fallen as a party.

Either people have a very short memory or they are not old enough to remember how the Democratic Party used to be.

Frankly, it's down right comical what the Democratic party has turned into.

If one were to compare and contrast the party of Carter to the party of Obama, it would be terrifying.

what we have now is a centrist right leaning Dem pres. Anyone who tries to reinterpret that is just not paying attention.

If we actually had a real party for the people, an FDR type party, people today would freak out. They honestly wouldn't know what to do with all of their rights as a person and as a worker.

But alas, we are now controlled by the corporations. Each and everyday we have to make yet a new allowance for our degrading lives.

I'm tired of calling a shit sandwich; steak.

[texastoast]

154. What you said

We definitely have a right-leaning centrist at the helm.

The party of Carter, JFK, and FDR wouldn't recognize it anymore.

This is what it feels like to be a dying breed. There are a few of us still, but it gets lonlier every day.

[Myrina]

171. +100

:applause:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

142. I choose to root for the success --

of the Country and her citizens, not an individual. I did that shit with Clinton and will never do it again.

[lark]

158. Our president is a Repug in Democratic clothing

If he acted like a Democrat for once, he wouldn't be receiving such scorn and would have his base intact. Instead he has thrown us over the fence in favor of his new BFF's - the far right wing of the Repuglican party. He's turned his back on us and doesn't give a damn about the working class.

[ctwayne]

176. Obama is a Raygun Republican

Now that he has a much more conservative Congress, expect him to move sharply to the right over the next two years.

[bowens43]

195. which president would that be?

As we have so painfully found out, a D next to your name on the ballot doesn't necessarily mean that you are a democrat.

[The Doctor.]

35. BS? I suppose you might have otherwise made distinctions in the past?

I'm sure you have some kind of credibility, right?

[RetroLounge]

83. I'm sure I don't care what you think.

:rofl:

RL

[Javaman]

126. You mean you are not quite sure? nt

[Enthusiast]

115. I'm done with the BS.

Real done with it.

[Javaman]

127. I came to that realization a while back, but...

it didn't solidify until this week.

[olegramps]

101. You really don't get it. You have been screwed and smile.

[Javaman]

128. This is the new face...

of the democratic party. Their slogan is, "throw me the scraps".

It's really pathetic.

[Can of Whoop-ass]

160. Obama

is dealing with gangsters that are 6 years old, emotionally.

[RaleighNCDUer]

177. And instead of spanking them, he's giving in to them. nt

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4. Wow. nt

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[Jamastiene]

6. K&R

[truedelphi]

7. Oh Keith, Keith, get a grip.

A wolf in sheep's clothing is not going to jump out from under the camouflage and admit to the error of his ways. Because by doing what the wolves want, the wolf in sheep's clothing is doing as he wants and needs to do.

Quit flogging the dying wolf/sheep, and start giving Feingold and Grayson some attention.

Grayson/Feingold 2012

[nashville_brook]

15. Fuck yeah!

[Horse with no Name]

119. Damn now there are some REAL Democrats

:thumbsup:

[Javaman]

130. It would have been nice if he did finish off his statement supporting

Feingold and Grayson.

There is another way.

[truedelphi]

198. I get very sad when Maddow and Olbermann both spend time being negative.

With comments on "bad Sarah Palin" and yet they avoid mentioning who it is out there that is GOOD. They don't mention the vast numbers of people trying to get Amendment 28 to the Constitution - this amendment would strip "personhood" away from Corporations. And I can't think of a more needed group to acknowledge.

If they would start showing the changes that some are attempting, and who and how to attempt real change, rather than endlessly picking on Bill O'Reilly, or Palin, we might have a better shot at getting somewhere.

[redirish28]

8. BRAVO!!!!!

:woohoo: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[harvey007]

9. Will Obama last until 2012?

If he keeps acting like a shill for the rich there will be demands for his resignation.

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[dennis4868]

50. Well his base is unfairly attacking him...

and not attacking the obstructionist repubs....would you take unfair attacks and just keep quiet...NO WAY!

[pokercat999]

113. His "base" knows they will have no effect attacking the rethugs

we should however have some impact on our Democratic President....no?

[Javaman]

131. We aren't attacking the repukes?

where have you been?

[lark]

161. UNFAIRLY?

ARe you crazy? Are you actually buying his poor little old me routine, the big bag nasties wouldn't approve my plan so I had to go with theirs? Come on. Surely you are smarter than that? There are all kinds of ways the Dems could win on this and win big but they totally abdicated that role every step of the way with Obama at the lead. Of course Repugs aren't going to compromise when Obama tells them ahead of time that he will let them have their way. That's just insane and proves he got exactly what he wanted and all the breast beating and crying are stage play and mean absolutely freaking nothing. He's a con artist and has no spine - period, end of story.

[golddigger]

93. Speaking of unfit to lead. Let's throw in all repuke congress

members also. They should also resign for stupidity and ignorance.

[politicalmajority]

103. They Should. It's a Deal Obama Made with Republicans.

Obama is very audacious with a great hope that regardless of what he does the Democratic base will be with him all the way. Contrary to his campaign rhetoric, Obama has no audacity when he faces Republicans.

[John Q. Citizen]

10. My feelings exactly

[Poboy]

11. recommend.

[MissDeeds]

12. K&R

This from an avid Obama supporter during the primaries.

[Independem]

13. I would have been banned for writing this!

[harun]

92. Under the circumstances, the mod's seem to be giving us a bit

of leeway ;-).

[DearAbby]

14. God Love ya Keith

[pauldp]

16. Wow. k&r!

[DirkGently]

Vintage KO. Welcome to the Enemies List, Keith. Rachel made it tonight too. Who's next, I wonder?

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[NRaleighLiberal]

17. Perfectly stated. N/T

[Grassy Knoll]

18. I hope the senate says fuck no.......

Otherwise , big problems.

[Guilded Lilly]

20. ...and found wanting....yup. Dramatic or passionate...yup, KO. n/t

[Melissa G]

22. This certainly speaks my mind...

Thanks, Keith! and Thanks Hissyspit for posting!

[Ishoutandscream2]

23. Whoa!! Keith stating this is Obama's Munich

Powerful, powerful stuff!

Or should I say, implying.

[somone]

25. The Best Ever

[Lucinda]

26. Wow.

[defendandprotect]

27. LOVED this tonight ... and love to you for providing text for everyone ... !!!

[defendandprotect]

28. Two other points on the disgracefulness of this deal that evidently leaders

of Congress and members had no idea was going on or coming down ....

Nothing here for the unemployed who have just lost their benefits --

but notice that GOP did make some deal on it -- which makes clear that

it was becoming an embarrassment for them they wanted to put off til

they totally control the discussion again after January --

PLUS all of these deals only serve to ENRICH even further corporatism/fascism

which we are fighting against -- once again strengthening our enemies.


Seems Obama also pulled another "back room" deal as far as Congressional Dems

know about what was going on --

This is NOT what I voted for -- it's a disgrace.

[sabrina 1]

70. Good points. This 'deal' will add billions to the Deficit both he and

Republicans claim is a matter of extreme urgency. Another give-away to those who are the most responsible for the collapse of this economy. Not to mention that it is an established FACT, that those tax cuts did not create any jobs, which was the excuse for them in the first place.

By handing them another windfall, as he did with the bailouts, and with the Health Care Bill, he has made them even more wealthy, more powerful, and more capable of buying Congress.

There is no way to look at this as anything other than further proof that this president is beholden to the wealthy and will now move on to yet another 'compromise', which translated means give them MORE of what they have wanted for so long, a weakening of the Social Security system. I have no doubts left that there will be no fight for Social Security.

He is definitely not a man of the people. He gives them crumbs and expects them to be happy about it and pouts when they are not.

I would love to see him just once, be as 'feisty' with Republicans as he is with Democrats.

But, I don't think we will ever see that from this president.

[Horse with no Name]

129. Obama is running for reelection

and without the benefit of support from the very rich (the grassroots thing was quaint and did offer some nice chump change and some cute media coverage) but make no mistake--he IS dancing with ones that brung him.

[defendandprotect]

193. Well, I'm looking for Obama to announce that he'll step down in 2012....

I certainly won't be voting for anyone who is part of the DLC or "New Dem" or

any other label which means pro-corporate --

We need to put a true liberal into the White House ---

How about Bernie Sanders -- he's a better Democrat than most in Congress -- and he

could run on Dem ticket --

Grayson -- or Michael Moore for VP -- he could run on Dem ticket just fine!

Otherwise ... who do you still trust?

[defendandprotect]

192. Agree completely with you ... but wanted to mention another thing

that's driving me nuts tonight -- don't think anyone here -- nor KO nor Maddows --

have mentioned how prominent and taken for granted this back room dealing --

I have to call it a sell out -- by Obama with the GOP is getting to be!

Why do we have a Congress any longer -- evidently they were completely shocked --

had no idea this was coming down!

We have a FED setting economic policy for the nation -- something that should be done

by Congress, our elected officials -- who presumably we can un-elect!!

On and on --

Decades ago they tried to move dealings to back rooms in Congress -- evidently that

wasn't far enough!!



Ugh!

[abelenkpe]

29. Nicely done :) nt

[Luciferous]

30. Damn! K&R

[beforeyoureyes]

31. Yes...KEITH'S BACK!!!!!!

[whatacountry09]

32. THANK YOU MR. OLBERMANN!

You said it all!

[Dinger]

33. KBR, And I Remember How Keith Was Very Pro-Obama In The Primaries

This is a complete and total 360 degree turn for him.

[The Doctor.]

37. I absolutely agree, it is a '360°' for Olbermann...

He's still facing the same direction.

He was called a 'sexist' for criticizing Clinton, even though his criticism was exceptionally well-founded. Now, here we see more criticism which is also exceptionally well-founded.

He's always been consistent. It's the players that give him the opportunities to criticize. Had Obama fought, I have little doubt Keith would have stood up for him.

He's consistent that way.

[The Doctor.]

34. Hard to disagree with KO. He always calls it like he sees it.

I'm disappointed too, but I'm not giving up. It's time to fight harder.

[ooglymoogly]

36. 0 is a disgrace to democracy.

and as I have said many times before, I will bust my ass (what is left of it) to get a challenger and to get that challenger elected. 0 is naught but a tool for the GOP.

Thank you Keith for making it public.

0; we have taken your measure and it is wanting. Bloviating about a healthcare bill in which any help it gives to the poor, those who cannot get insurance and those in need, can be charged off to customer and the taxpayer at usurious rates is a guffaw in itself while legislating into criminal law our compliance to buy insurance at those same usurious rates or else, with no competition is the last guffaw and the last straw and why we lost both the Ma. election and the 2008 election. You are indeed wanting as anything but a tool of the GOP who are clapping in glee over their real benefactor; you.

[The Doctor.]

38. You seem to be missing something;

We no longer have a Democracy.

Obama is doing the best he believes he can. Personally, I would not run for President these days if I were not willing to risk assassination. That's what seems to happen to people who might stand in the way of the PTB.

So let me ask you; 'Just who would do better without having their term 'end prematurely'?'

[ooglymoogly]

41. Forrest Gump. nt

[The Doctor.]

58. Dodge attempt noted.

Try a non-fictional and otherwise viable candidate. Unless, of course, you're conceding no such person exists. Then we might agree.

[reggie the dog]

74. someone like Hugo Chavez

perhaps Sanders could do it in the usa? someone with a set of killers as tight as the right wing set of killers...

[druidity33]

76. Feingold, Grayson, Schweitzer, Dean...

"no such person exists"?

I think there are plenty of qualified and viable candidates.

:shrug:

[The Doctor.]

133. And when they too find out they have to 'play ball', then what?

[tweeternik]

137. "Plenty of qualified and viable candidates" .....

but none who have the slightest chance of being ELECTED! Reality is so hard to accept sometimes.

[On the Road]

191. Really? You Don't Think Dean is Electable?

Whether he would run is another matter, but no chance he would be practicing Obama's form of political surrender.

[defendandprotect]

194. If you're truly saying -- and I wouldn't deny it --

that we have criminals running our government --

then I think we have to take the same road the Italians took in getting

rid of the Mafia -- a lot of lives will be lost --

Right now, however, I don't see it exactly that way --

I think the suits/elites are the same as the Mafia -- it's they who give the permission

and allow Mafia to go on -- and share its profits --


We may never know who in government has been threatened but there are strong signs

that it is highly possible -- we have Wm. O. Douglass telling us that the Supreme

Court was being wiretapped. We have Einstein telling us that his home was bugged.

Remember when my Sen. Bill Bradley/NJ was on the intelligence commitee and they were

being filmed by C-span, he casually mentioned that many on the committee had their

homes bugged -- and needless to say, I'm sure their private meetings and conversations

in Congress, as well!

We've had more than 50 years of out in the open right wing political violence --

stolen elections and lying propaganda. It's the only way they can rise.

And certainly the coup on JFK which also took our people's government.

On and on --

But, specifically re Obama -- maybe he is so frightened that he's chasing the right

wingers down the street begging to surrender to them ... that could be?

Otoh, there are reports -- certainly more than rumors -- that Obama's family --

his Mom, biological father and Ste-father were all connected to CIA. And that he

later had connections as well to companies that serve as fronts for the CIA.

Certainly CIA played a major role in the assassination of JFK -- neither they nor

those they worked for could have taken the chance of seeing their power overturned.

Temporarily, perhaps. But not for any period of time where power would really shift.

Carter seemed very much to be threatened and intimidated -- they say the intelligence

people would report to him every day that there were picking up 100's of threats on his life!

:evilgrin:

[zenprole]

39. O. schools O.

Olbermann is outstanding, an affront to the idea that moving, humanist rhetoric is a thing of the past.

Thanks for posting this, and I look forward to the day that DU ports itself to a newly-named site, because by now it should be clear that we haven't had an opposition party for the same amount of time that overwhelming numbers of Americans have seen their fortunes run into the ditch.

[dixiegrrrrl]

40. Bless you Hissyspit.. I had missed the show.

But thanks to you, NOT the special comment.

:hi:

[snappyturtle]

43. He's spot on! He did everything but call the President a liar to his base!

Whoa! It needed to be said....maybe, just maybe, this Special Comment will strike a chord or two in the WH. Let's hope so. Oh brother, now I'm having a flashback on the word "HOPE"!

[SharksBreath]

77. The WH doesn't watch MSNBC.

They watch Fox News.

See Shirley Sherrod.

[Enthusiast]

118. The White House will simply

dismiss Keith as a member of the professional left.

[snappyturtle]

153. Oh I'm most sure of that HOWEVER I would guess the WH e-mail

received coupled with KO, etc. can't help at least let the powers that be understand that the people are not happy.

[highplainsdem]

44. K&R

[ibegurpard]

46. pretty much

[emilyg]

47. K/R

[Independem]

49. Blanche Lincoln's Revenge

Perhaps the worst part of President Obama's very bad deal on taxes concerns the estate tax. After all, what Ezra Klein deemed "noxious" is a $7 billion annual giveaway to the heirs of the largest fortunes in America. It is estimated that only 0.11% of estates and just 40 family farms and businesses nationwide would owe tax. And for that, Americans can thank not just obstructionist Republicans but outgoing Arkansas Senator Blanche Lincoln. After a bruising Democratic primary and one-sided reelection defeat, on her way out the door the Senator from Wal-Mart delivered for her real constituents.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/12/7/13259/4423

Who’s a Blue Dog?

[democracy1st]

48. K & R

[mntleo2]

51. KO=Knock Out

...KO, you hit it right out of the park. By this time with Obama I am beyond mad ...I am sick in my heart :o(

Cat in Seattle

[abq e streeter]

52. K&R (that stands for Keith and Rachel, right?)

[dennis4868]

53. NOW THE REPUBS...

CAN SAY MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

The repubs plan to obstruct everything that may help the country has worked to the point that even KO has fallen for it. They know the dems will blame Obama for the slow growth and half ass policies that they are responsible for (becuase of their 24/7 fillubustering). The repubs are loving every minute of this.

[indimuse]

71. You forgot about our SS..

they ARE coming for it...then Mission A... ;)

[Caretha]

135. Don't you mean

their threats of fillubustering. They have yet been forced to fillubuster and they fear a real fillubuster. Then their constituents would really see who was behind the curtain.

[dennis4868]

54. Of course KO does not say...

how he would fight the repubs and overcome a definite fillubuster for any tax increase for the wealthy....

[Tx4obama]

62. You got that right. Most people that bash never seem to offer 'solutions'. n/t

[reggie the dog]

75. here is how you do it

you dont vote on tax cuts for the rich, you let them expire. then you propose tax cuts for the middle class and let the republicans block it, most americans will then see the republicans as supporting the rich and opposing the middle class.

[harun]

94. They didn't even need to propose tax cuts for the middle class only

House had already passed them. He just needed to tell the Senate to keep on trying to pass that and do no other business until it passed. Done deal.

[Ganja Ninja]

79. They can't filibuster the expiration of the Bush give away to the rich.

They can only filibuster the tax cuts for the middle class. And please stop using the right wing talking point "tax increase for the wealthy".

[RetroLounge]

85. So that makes him wrong?

FAIL

RL

[Turk 182]

56. nailed it K&R - nt

[DeSwiss]

57. K&R

- And the worst of it is, this isn't the worst of it........

[me b zola]

59. Recommended. n/t

[Lugnut]

61. I wish I could rec this 100 times. n/t

[pam4water]

63. Keith Nail it again! K&R

[JDPriestly]

64. I love real Democrats.

Now the Republicans knew in their hearts just how bad Bush really was, how he was siding with the very rich against the middle class and hurting the country, how he was fighting an illegal war and wasting money, but they said nothing. That is because for them, the Republican Party is like sports team to which they think they have to be loyal or lose face.

But we Democrats, we demand performance, we hold to our ideals.

Thanks, Keith for this wonderful statement of how we Democrats feel at this time.

Betrayed, that is the word I like for it.

[Horse with no Name]

163. There are Democrats (even on this site)

who do the same as republicans("the Republicans knew in their hearts just how bad Bush really was, how he was siding with the very rich against the middle class and hurting the country, how he was fighting an illegal war and wasting money, but they said nothing.")

We are REALLY two parties within the Democratic Party. There are the conservadems (people too chickenshit to admit to actually being republicans--then subdivide that to trolls and poseurs)and then there are the REAL Democrats (who are sickened by what is happening).
The "Big Tent Theory" is only there to make an excuse as to why they have infiltrated our party and to pretend that they have a reason to be here and why we should have to let them remain, even when they despise every thing the Democratic Party has ever held dear.

The REAL Democrats are committed to holding ourselves and this President to a higher standard--whereas the conservadems are getting exactly what they want from this administration. Put me on the side of purity.

The walls of this empire are crumbling and will fall (as they always do) and there will be a realignment. People will suffer and people will die--denying basic needs like money to the unemployed and food to the hungry and healthcare to the sick will assure some easy picking wins to the elite so they won't HAVE to fight us all. The middle and poor classes will be weakened by any means necessary including shutting down borders (in the name of job preservation).
We literally bet the house on Obama and the bank will be here to foreclose on it (as soon as they can find the proper documents--of course, under new laws those won't even be necessary). We had this ONE chance to save our country. It didn't happen. The final chapters of this will be written in the History books--most of us will never live to see the outcome.

[blackspade]

65. K & R!

Crushing commentary.

[The Midway Rebel]

66. Ouch!

Blistering, scathing...that is going to leave a mark! Thanks for posting.

[RiverStone]

67. And finally those that suggest a challenge from within...

Are not deemed as trolls on DU.

Someplace, somewhere, there is a Dem pondering a run for the presidential nomination in 2012.

[jefferson_dem]

108. Well....

That's certainly debateable. :)

[Norrin Radd]

68. kr

[rpannier]

69. I like it. K&R nt

[indimuse]

72. Bravo!

Thank you KO!!!

Thank you Hissyspit for this post!! ;)

[FlyByNight]

73. K and f**king R

The Devil's in the details, eh? Upon inspection, details of the "deal" look to be a steaming pile of DLC/R shit.

And so begins the opening salvo of Social Security's destruction. I guess it's poetic: begun under a Dem and the (beginning of the) end of it under a Dem.

I'm not against deal-making when the time comes but this is ridiculous, tragic and shockingly SPINELESS.

Good luck with Issa's investigations Mr. President.

[James48]

78. I want my President back

The one who said "Yes, we can".


Where did that guy go?

[BlueJac]

97. He is showing you what he can do!

That is the problem, toss him out in 2012.

[olegramps]

109. Too bad that we can't toss him out now.

We know that those who control the Republican Party are evil bastards and the ignorant racist working class that blindly supports them are our enemy. How can someone who has been the blunt of their hatred make deals with these devils and sell us out? Just what the hell is going on? I will not support him for the nomination. If Obama wins the nomination I will vote for him only because the alternative is totally unacceptable.

[democrank]

86. Thank you, Keith

[Dawgs]

87. Couldn't be said any better.

:)

[Vinca]

88. One of Olbermann's best special comments. Bravo!

[PADemD]

89. I'd like to know who negotiated this deal.

I wonder what Donald Trump thinks of this deal.

[Shining Jack]

90. Great rant. K&R

"...He may not even be renominated..." Hum...

[BrklynLiberal]

91. Heartbreakingly superb and accurate analysis...

[disillusioned73]

95. Dangit, I missed the show last night..

thanks for posting.. rec:dem:

[RoccoR5955]

96. K & R n/t

[Hubert Flottz]

98. K&R

I agree 100%.

We've been sold out right down the line by this DLC/GOP cartel.(DemoCan'ts)

Edit...We the voters did one hell of a lot better when we elected Obama over McCain. Next time I hope we have an even better choice than Obama the centrist pawn.

[nradisic]

99. Bingo!

Thank you Keith...

[kjackson227]

100. I don't like the fact that the wealthy got such a good deal...

out of this either, but what else could President Obama have done? Are/were any of you in favor of taking the risk of losing the unemployment benefits for 2M jobless??? And, if the President had taken that risk and lost, what would've happened to these people??? Exactly, how would you, the armchair quarterbacks on DU, handle the situation and make it any better???

[olegramps]

112. What better deal could they have gotten? You aren't serious.

[kjackson227]

134. Yes, I'm serious as a heart attack, so answer the question...

if you can, if not, then hit the scroll button.

[fasttense]

120. What else could the President have done?

He could have called the RepubliCONS bluff and if the unemployment benefits and/or Middle Class tax cuts didn't get passed (that's a big IF), he could have used that one talent that he has that no president in recent history seems to have - the ability to communicate to the hearts and minds of the American people. So, he could have taken the bully pulpit on the road like W did for Social Security privatization. Unlike W, he has a skill and talent for it. W got elected through dirty tricks not through soaring oratory. He never could touch hearts or minds of Americans like Obama did.

With Obama's skills, he could hammer home who is really responsible for this mess and refocused the anger of the American people on those responsible - The RepubliCONS.

Taking the risk of possibly losing unemployment benefits and/or Middle Class tax cuts, is no greater risk than what he is taking now. He is risking the insolvency of the US and is risking the loss of his voting base. The risks are comparable.

Right now there are about 5 million people who are unemployed and receive no benefits even with this extension. People will continue to lose their expiring benefits and remain unemployed because we have done nothing to help the job situation.

That's one thing. Another would have been to negotiate a better deal like including job training for the 99ers, lowering the retirement age for Social Security to 55 causing the supply of labor to decrease, he could have removed the cap on Social Security taxes, he could have gotten single payer health care or the public option, and he could have started a WPA. These are just a few items he could have negotiated for and he wouldn't have lost his base. There are many more that would be more liberal like and less a RepubliCONS wet dream.

[kjackson227]

138. Sorry to hear about the 99er's, but how does adding another...

two million to the mix going to help??? Also, what makes you think that congress would approve of lowering SS to 55??? Do you know how much time that would've taken just to bring this to the floor??? What are the unemployed supposed to do in the meantime??? Are you unemployed??? If so, would you want the President to take these chances with YOUR livelihood???

[Enthusiast]

122. Watch the video. Obviously you haven't. nt

[kjackson227]

148. And, obviously you can't give me an answer as to what you...

would do if you were president under the same circumstances. Knowing that the Republicans have said they will do everything to see you, the president fail, would you chance them agreeing to extending unemployment benefits as they have done in the past??? Would you really roll the dice with 2M unemployed people's lives at stake??? I think the 2M unemployed took priority with this president, and rightly so. No, this will not create jobs, yes the wealthy will only get richer, but at the end of the day, the 2M unemployed was/is the focus of his decision.

[Enthusiast]

150. Funny that so many of us

disagree that the President had no other options.

[kjackson227]

151. Doesn't matter how many disagree with me on DU, and...

just because DU says it, doesn't make it true.

[Enthusiast]

196. A majority of the American people polled

are dead set against increasing the deficit by borrowing money to give the ultra wealthy a huge tax cut, especially in light of the deficit commission's threat to social security and medicare.

It isn't 'just DU', there are millions upon millions of us. And millions more of us already had our doubts about President Obama. Now, for many, the hope has vanished. President Obama actually castigated us while at the same time we have heard him praise the opposition. We all can't be wrong while the president is the only one correct. His greatest error so far was his weak position on the public option yet he holds that up as an example of how certain 'liberal' supporters are never satisfied. He is not only wrong, he is way wrong. It isn't even close this time.

[unapatriciated]

102. Thanks for posting

[Paper Roses]

104. Keith's comment was about the best I have heard .

If only Obama would listen. Not going to happen.

[Buenaventura]

110. k&r - n/t

[Boudica the Lyoness]

114. Well said Keith

He always gets it right.

[rhett o rick]

124. K & R

[Love Bug]

132. Thanks, Keith, for remembering us 99ers

Those of us who've exhausted our UI benefits have fallen off the radar of almost everyone else, so this "99er" (well, 86 weeks in MN) thanks you for remembering us.

[davidwparker]

141. Speaking only for myself, KO is speaking for me on this

one.

KO, :yourock:

[felinetta]

144. No, I disagree with KO on this one. I am tired of Obama bashing. I, for one,

think it is better to help suffering Americans.  Obama isn't
happy about the repig deal, but I know I couldn't sleep if I
let
people trying to keep their families eating etc. be denied. 
I'm on Stephanie Miler's side in this one.

[ProudDad]

149. So you buy into Obama's Big Lie

that those are the ONLY options...

Cave-in completely to republican/corporate desires even against the policies and wishes of your own Party...

Or the Unemployed Workers will starve?

That's utter, unadulterated bullshit...

There are still a couple of weeks to call their bluff with a clean bill and make it CLEAR who is fucking whom...

Rather than caving-in to another transfer of wealth of over $900 BILLION from the bottom to the top...

[TatonkaJames]

145. Carlin told us years ago

And the wealthy completed their task, cutting education so we're too stupid to do anything but complain.

[davidwparker]

146. "bound to principles not to a person"

:applause:

[slackmaster]

147. Keith's been nipping at the rat cheese again

:nuke:

[Waiting For Everyman]

152. K&R

[defendandprotect]

155. kick

[Laelth]

156. k&r for Keith Olbermann. He speaks the truth. n/t

-Laelth

[Jeffersons Ghost]

157. K&R

[Dokkie]

162. Reluctant K & R

I think this time the anger is real, its no longer resides in the far left corners of the liberal base. Pragmatism and compromise are good attributes to the point that they are a detriment to the countries progress and vote costing. I wish him the best of luck cos I would hate to be him right now

[big lu]

165. k&R

[delightfulstar]

166. K&R for KO, and most definitely for Sen. Sanders

I'm glad someone gets it. It sure doesn't seem like Obama does right now - I'm angry because he wasn't "supposed" to let things like this happen, but he sold out anyway. I gave him my vote, and I feel like I'm being betrayed for it. I was unemployed for 11 weeks, and am fortunately working now, but am still catching up. I can only imagine the sheer hell that the 99ers are going through. I don't know how willing I'll be to re-nominate Obama in two years. I'm starting to explore other (more progressive) options within the Democratic Party, because he may have lost me by letting this slip through the cracks so easily.

[reclinerhead]

167. Excellent pick-me-up for lunch viewing

Keith is completely awesome - and he seems to be drawing the line in the sand - enough is enough. Great quote at the end too.

I think I can handle the rest of the day now. I always feel a little less alone in my frustrations and fears after watching Keith.

But I wonder if Obama ever would watch something like this? Would he be allowed to?

[Whisp]

168. KO - unbearably too full of himself. n/t

[sulphurdunn]

180. Perhaps.

But what does that have to do with what he said?

[Whisp]

182. I can't really listen to him, so I'm not sure what he said.

something that goes along with the bandwagon I am sure tho.

if he went against the wind, I would be a bit surprised but then I don't care to know him much more than I do.

[JohnWxy]

169. RECOMMENDED!!

[DemocraticPilgrim]

170. I'm loyal to the point that maybe my judgment is clouded sometimes but that's how it will be till

his tenure Is over.

[Ramulux]

178. Why?

[4dsc]

175. SPOT ON Keith

Keith speaks for me on this subject.

[Ccarmona]

179. I Gave KO a standing O

last night while watching his comment. The thing is I never thought Obama was a Progressive, and he constantly confirms that. The best is Kucinich and Sanders, but the media always portray both of them as out of the mainstream so they don't get much traction..

[Danger Mouse]

181. KO kicks ass! SUPER MEGA BIG ASS REC.

[iandhr]

184. I am sorry

Comparing Obama Chamberlain is over the top.

[beforeyoureyes]

185. You're right. Obama's worse.

Unfair to Chamberlain.

[davidthegnome]

186. Thanks for this post

and a big thanks to Keith for having the nerve to speak the truth. I almost didn't watch the video due to my weak connection speed - but now I'm glad I waited for it to load. There is an example of journalistic integrity. Thank you Keith, thank you very much.

[WillyT]

188. HUGE K & R !!!

:applause::applause::applause:

:patriot:

:kick:

[PuffedMica]

189. K&R

[BobTheSubgenius]

190. That was absolutely fantastic, in a horrible kind of way.

[cui bono]

197. EXCELLENT!!! BRAVO!!!

Anyone who doesn't agree with this is playing the wrong game. The game of Dems vs. Repubs, Left vs. Right, Blue vs. Red. That is a false team sport that the powers that be WANT you to play. Keep us fighting a false fight amongst ourselves and and let the big boys keep doing whatever they want.

We need to fight the class fight, workers need to unite against the corporate power.

I don't know if Obama sold out, if he couldn't sell out because he was already on the corporatist's side or if someone sat him down and told him what's what once he was elected, but he is doing the corporations' and wealthiests' bidding. He is NOT standing up for the people of this country. I am sick of it.

Cheers to Olbermann on this one, he hit the nail on the head. Obama is either weak and allowing himself to be bullied or he is one of them. I don't know which but I do know that he is failing miserably and he's taking down the whole Dem party with him. I wish he would just change parties and be done with it. At least then maybe if the Dems wake up we can get a true Democrat to run.

[rocktivity]

200. DING DING DING! Cui Bono, you're our grand prize winner!

The game of Dems vs. Repubs, Left vs. Right, Blue vs. Red...(is) a false fight...We need to fight the class fight...

Unlike U2, I do know my right from left, and my right from wrong. If wanting to do the right thing -- as opposed to the right wing -- makes me a starry idealistic "purist," so be it.

:headbang:
rocktivity

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