Andrew Sullivan On Bill Maher: "Hillary Clinton is Cheney in a Pantsuit"

[Billysundae]

Run time: 09:59 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=147WH_AYYYY   Posted on YouTube: October 27, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 27, 2007 By DU Member: Billysundae Views on DU: 1307

 
"you wait, you wait, you wait"

The whole show (on youtube) is here

JT

[MADem]

1. Ah yes, Andrew Sullivan, who once said Bush was the Greatest President EVER.

Forgive me if I don't take Andrew's word for much of ANYTHING. If he told me Kucinich was to the left of Obama I'd want independent verification!

[luckyleftyme2]

3. the right is petrified of HILLARY

WHEN SHE GETS THE NOMINATION THE EXTENDED VACATIONS OUT OF THE COUNTRY WILL BE TREMENDOUS. so many of those corporate thief's will be leaving I'm gonna put my
stock in airlines.
They will keep trying to divide us but the fact is most of our candidates will win over anything they can put up.
and as long as you have people like chenny saying oil should dbl because we've got more efficient in the last 10 years. YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO WIN.

[ryanmuegge]

10. Why would they leave? If a Clinton takes back the White House, they'll be happy as hell.

Religious idiots and the most ideological neocon hawks may be upset (although, really, Clinton and Gore were not shy about bombing aspirin factories on a whim, either). He was more of a realist about foreign policy, but certainly a proponent of imperialism. Clinton was no friend of the working class, either, so I doubt corporations will be too outraged.

Clinton only pissed the right wing off because he won elections with a D in front of his name, raised taxes, didn't want to privatize the public school system, and want to kill the estate tax.

Andrew Sullivan? Yet another former cheerleader for the most horrific policies of the Bush administration using the newest GOP PR strategy: to present a more moderate face to maintain control of the White House, regain legislative control and then do the same shit they've done since the '80s.

[Evergreen Emerald]

2. Finally--Clark gets air time to tell it like it is.

He was great. And so right: those bozo's in office don't need anything to go to war. They only need the press.

[Kurovski]

4. Speaking of pantsuits...

be sure to check out the fashion show at the end of the segment. :rofl:

[Bitwit1234]

5. Oh yeah...Andrew Sullivan a republican who voted for bush

damn he has a lot of room to talk about OUR CANDIDATES. THE DEMOCRATIC ONES. LOOK what in the hell he helped put in office.

[inthebrain]

8. He voted for Kerry in 04

and is supporting Obamma in the primaries.

I don't agree with Sullivan on everything. I do respect the fact that if you wage a a decent argument supported with facts, Sullivan does something rare in these times, HE CHANGES. To do that in the public forum takes guts.

And Sullivan is no longer a Republican. Watch his public talk with Jim McGreevey on YouTube.

I am to the left of Sullivan on just about every issue and to the left 99% of the posters here. I think Sullivan is a cool cat.

[pnwmom]

6. Andrew Sullivan has also compared AL GORE to Cheney,

which shows what a brilliant judge of character he is -- or, more likely, that his favorite way of denigrating Democrats is to compare them to the Dick.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/07/05/sullivan-gore-cheney/


Andrew Sullivan Compares Gore on Global Warming to Cheney’s Reckless Claims About WMD

Andrew Sullivan writes that Al Gore’s claims about global warming are irresponsible, just like Vice President Cheney’s claims about weapons of mass destruction:

It occurs to me that the global warming debate is not unlike the WMD-terrorist debate, except the sides are reversed. Accrding to Ron Suskind, Dick Cheney’s “one percent doctrine” means that if there’s a one percent chance that a terrorist could have access to a WMD, we must act as if it were a certainty - because the outcome, however unlikely, would be too disastrous to risk. On global warming, Gore expresses a not-too-dissimilar equation: if there’s a small chance that human behavior could lead to environmental catastrophe, we should act as if it were a certainty - because waiting too long is too big a risk to take.

SNIP

[Chichibabin]

7. Less funny but more accurate

This clip by a YouTuber was a wake-up call: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cJpFGyEgfA

Hillary is no Cheney, but she is not a progressive candidate.

[bjobotts]

9. Speaking before a women's group Hillary said she'd leave no soldiers or bases in Iraq

The group was shocked because Hillary had never said this before so I'm confused as to just how much Hillary is pandering to the right to win them over and how much she is really serious about when it comes to defense and terrorism and Iran. Voting for the Kyl-Lieberman AUMF against Iran was a big alarm bell because when really scrutinized every accusation the bill made against Iran has been debunked by our own National Intelligence Estimate. It was all lies designed to support an Iran attack. It's what Bush wanted so Hillary should have known it was bogus...I believe she did and was thinking she might need it one day if Bush doesn't use it first.

She certainly justified lobbyist donations quick enough.
She's aligned herself with corporate policy in the past and she should have been the first to stand against telecom amnesty.
She is still talking private insurance instead of government sponsored healthcare. And remember...she was a Wal-Mart corp rep. getting rid of American jobs to increase Wal-mart profits.
So much is questionable with her that makes me skeptical, whereas I have no questions when it comes to Kucinich. He makes it very clear where he is at on all the issues and is everything progressive dems say they want.
We may not like to criticize one of our own and say she's nothing like Bush but denial doesn't change what is. She really doesn't represent a major change except she wants to stop this war-occupation of Iraq.
Kucinich is the only real change out there.

[erpowers]

11. Wes Clark

Even though Wes Clark said some pretty good things during the show I do not like his comment about the Barqua issue. I really do not think women in Middle Eastern countries like wearing those things.