If Obama were elected senator in an upset, would Bush have held up the vote?

[quiet.american]

I know Obama is trying to do the fair and good thing, but my God, it's frustrating to hear him say he is going to wait for Brown to be seated before moving forward with the healthcare reform bill.

We know that Republicans, if they ever regain the majority, WILL NOT do anything like that for Democrats. Remember how they literally tried to have Democrats arrested for trying to join a policy meeting?

Brown is crowing as though he's been elected president, not a junior senator. And it seems to me Obama and our party are handing him that power on a silver platter.

Frustrating. Just had to vent.

[SeattleGirl]

1. I'm sure Bush would have wanted the Senate to vote asap. However,

my reaction when I read threads about this issue is, I thought the Senate bill was less popular than the House bill.

Please don't misunderstand; I'm not dismissing your frustration at all. I'm certainly not in the camp of people, left and right both, that want the entire bill scrapped, but on the other hand, I don't want something rammed through just for the purpose of doing it before another Republican joins the Senate. Health care reform DOES need to be passed sooner rather than later, but again, I don't want the goal of passing something in the Senate to be that of beating a Republican to the finish line.

[Cha]

3. Yes, I see you point..

and the republicans have no etiquette or honor so they wouldn't have waited.

[quiet.american]

4. I understand your point, but as this has been slogging almost a year, I don't see it as ramming.

To me, it's like being within inches of a finish line and then having to start the race all over again because the newest and slowest member of the team says so -- and oh yeah, we have to run the race the way they want it run, and in the end, they won't even be in the race themselves (would bet that Brown will still vote "no.")

But now that Obama and Reid have framed it themselves as "ramming," they've given the GOP all the spin they need.

Frustrating. :mad:

[still_one]

2. That unfortunately will be Obama's downfall. The Democrats bent over backwards

for Lieberman and Snowe, and effectively were snubbed by them

They are now trying to do the same thing with brown. I will be pleasantly surprised if it works this time, but if the past is any reflection of the future, I won't count on it

[quiet.american]

5. I have to ask myself, when will enough be enough for Dems to stop being "surprised" by GOP ferocity.

I really can't say anymore than that. I'm just frustrated.

[still_one]

7. me too /nt

[quiet.american]

6. Just replying to say a post from berni_mccoy has given me hope:

"Breaking on MSNBC:

Will be more aggressive in dealing with Republicans and push further to the left on policy. Be more aggressive on that direction and in getting direct results. This is the WH Takeaway. That people are disappointed with too much effort on bipartisanship and working with the people that ruined the country."


Sorry for my breakdown here; was just feeling so frustrated. This gives me some encouragement. Let the lion (Obama is a Leo) roar!

[Born_A_Truman]

8. Did the GOP beg to stop working until Al Franken was seated?