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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:33 PM Original message |
"HOMELAND" IS A NAZI TERM |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. We must protect the "homeland" with our "crusade". |
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DeposeTheBoyKing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
2. Indeed - I instinctively recoil whenever I hear it |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Before Karl Rove took power (with Bush), a typical phrase used was "Domestic Security" |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
92. or National Security |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
20. The psychological reasons for homeland and fatherland : |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Wow. Just wow. Thanks lvx35! |
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Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. I thought they used "Fatherland"? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Original message |
Same thing. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. The clip explains how the Nazis switched from "Fatherland" to "Homeland." |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
4. We must protect our vital juices. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Animals will be bred and slaughtered. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Assure the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. Of course, it is. That's why Bushco forced it upon us. A typical Fascist strategy is to erase |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
56. well they said they want to "re write history" apparently they |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. I know. I CRINGE every time I hear it and refuse to ever use the word. |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. Yep to that. n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. me too. |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Me three! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. it is indeed |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. "Homeland" is a misnomer by American standards |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Good point StopThePendulum, and thanks. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
75. The term creates a separation from one's roots, from family ties; it further creates an "us vs. |
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Red Zelda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. Homeland works |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Little 'puke subliminal messages ain't so subliminal |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
13. From the moment I first heard it, it struck me as odd. Now that I think back about it |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. Well, actually "Homeland" is English, not German. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. That's baloney. Did you PLAY THE CLIP I POSTED before posting your knee-jerk disagreement? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. No, and I don't care to. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM Original message |
Thanks for admitting your ignorance and lack of respect for education. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. Pure horseshit. Claiming that "homeland" is of nazi origin is unabashed ignorance. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. It's not a video, it's audio. And somebody else already posted the German etymology. |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Don't bother |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. "Somebody" claims German etymology? MsRedacted. What a friggin' coincidence. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. That poster isn't the only one talking about it. Sounds like it's "ignore list" time |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Bush IS a Nazi! His entire FAMILY is... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. "Nazi" has a very specific definition, my friend. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Prescott was mighty close..... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
52. Why is that no surprise? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Because you know I'm not a sniveling moron given to calling my opponents "nazis"? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. No,that's not it... |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
58. The clip doesn't claim that the Germans invented "Homeland" |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. You're violating the rules: |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. You're being Naive. Etymology of the word Homeland: |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Sorry, but that twisted little tale hard rises to the level of etymology. |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. That is exactly what I said -- in dictionary terms. I studied etymology. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. "Or if someone tells you "that's cool" do you actually think it's cold." |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. 50 pages on a single word, eh? And you think "co-opted" is equivalent to the origin of the word? |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. But the current usage of the word, using it in an officious way, has it's origins in Nazi Germany. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. The neocons are not Nazis... |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. No?! Really??!! You Just Now Figuring That Out? |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. What's the purpose of your remark? You think this is common knowledge? |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Ostriches May Not Know This |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Insulting posts like yours get newbies banned pretty quickly around here. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Warning Received |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. It is among us who have an inkling of intelligence... |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. What is this? Know-it-all smartass day here at DU? |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Insulting posts like yours get people banned pretty quickly around here. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Look, you're calling DU members around here "ostriches." Knock it off, pal. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Ostriches Are Noble and Intelligent |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. You'd Better Be Careful, There |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Telling the rest of us here that we're stupid ain't actually dissent. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Ostriches Are Actually Pretty Smart. |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. I thnk he was just responding to the smart-alec attitude of your initial post. |
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redacted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. stirlingsliver, you're not making any sense now at all |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Oh NO! |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. What is your Fucking Problem??? |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. I Have No Problem, Fucking or Otherwise |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
97. You're Just Arguing |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Oh, Please |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #24 |
89. I t should be if you read. n/t |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. I was taken aback when they first started using this term. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Same here - and the other one I hate is "The Patriot Act" |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. You bet - I HATE that term. n/t |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. they are full of empty slogans and full of BS. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
32. You don't need another word but your title. |
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MetaTrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. The Bush term used to justify torture - "enhanced interrogation techniques" |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. "Modernized Questioneering for a New America" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
34. Oy Vey. |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. See my posts on the etymology of the word above. Origin, well it's current connotation |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
47. He's just saying that Nazis used the word, but not that they were the only ones to use it. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. I e-mailed my rep, and told him that we find that term very offensive and insulting |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
64. Guilt by word association. What a stunning argument. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R. DU needs some comic relief. |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. But, But....DUers All Over The Nation |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
74. Well, duh. nt |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
80. Fatherland, Motherland, Homeland |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. "This land is your land, this land is my land..." |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Buzz Clik...do you live to be contrary? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #84 |
100. I don't see the relationship to that song |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
81. Heimat vs. Vaterland |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Ausgezeichnet! |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
82. That's not all... |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
85. We are a country, a nation, a republic, a democracy, a nation of immigrants |
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sarcasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
86. Yes it is and you are now in Homeland Amerika. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
87. Hart-Rudman report.... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. In 1968, the Palestinian National Covenant was adopted describing Palestine |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
90. yeah, and instead of people we're "folks" (volken) |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
91. I consider "Freedom is on the march" akin to "Arbeit macht frei" |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
94. FYI |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
96. "Heitmat" was appropriated by the Nazis. The Bushler regime appropriated "homeland." |
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Wiregrass Willie (436 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
99. That explains my sudden desire to ... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
101. Thank You!! That and Czar has to go too! |
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