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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:35 PM Original message |
Poll question: Judge told a 500 pound man that he is too fat to adopt his nephew |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. And a skinny person could die from an aneurysm, car accident or other misfortune |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Or from bulimia or smoking cigarettes. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. I could get hit by a car tomorrow... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. completely wrong. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Judge is too stupid to live |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
5. okay that's just whacky |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Not enough info for me to vote. Something is missing |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. I think something is missing, too.... nt |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Watch The Accompanying Video |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #15 |
67. It's not Kansas |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Close Enough |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
87. I thought the same thing, looks like there is a lot of info missing. n/t |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
7. I have sleep apnea |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. I have it as well. And it has little to do with weight |
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silverlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. Sleep apnea |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. Really? I'd never heard that before |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Sleep apnea can disturb sleep hundreds of times a night, |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:07 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I have my CPAP machine |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. My husband only got tested because of MY disturbed sleep. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let's face it, love just doesn't mean anything to these people. n/t |
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KatyaR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
10. So it's better for a child to be tossed from foster home to foster home, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. No custody because he might develop apnea in the future????? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. And sleep apnea prevents one from being a father - how? |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Everybody with a kid has a sleep problem. |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Yup. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Pssst. From the minute we are born, we are all terminal. |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. No. Flagrant discrimination against a person with a handicap, but a lot of love. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. fucking word |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. So if a father lost an arm, should he give up his children? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. And you make my heart sing. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. And...just how many children have you adopted and bathed???? |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. I have to disagree with you young dem, but I commend you for having the guts to give your view |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. I agree! I wish the rest would speak up too! Or |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Hello? Bill Frist...Is that you? n/t |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. I didn't see anything in the story about him being terminally ill. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
22. Wrong |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. All that matters is love. |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. There are questions about gastric bypass surgery and stomach cancer. |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
29. This judge allowed this man to adopt a different kid years ago.... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. 18% of DUers are fat heads. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. it's a fact of life, right TahitiNut? |
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MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. I think that the judge was wrong. . . |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
36. If the man had health issues NOW I could see the argument |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
38. how incredibly pathetic |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. The judge was WRONG; but there's an elephant in the room |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. but, by that logic, that means several other conditions will make you unfit to parent |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. True.... That's why the judge is wrong and his ruling discriminatory |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. it kinda tears me up inside to read stories like this, because... |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #40 |
82. Who decides this stuff? State legislatures and judges, that's who. Not you. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. And this judge is wrong. |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
42. You have obviously NEVER been to the south.... |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
46. Yet another group that is targeted by prejudiced people. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
48. Bear in mind, 500 pounds is not "fat". It's extremely morbidly obese. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. good points |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Thanks. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. It says right in the article it is he and his wife that wish to adopt |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Yes, I noted that I caught that in my post entitled "Thanks" above. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:16 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. So how do you respond |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Here ya go: |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Addendum: |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:36 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. He's licensed by the state for long term foster child care and yet |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Kinda makes you wonder what else is going on |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. The article doesn't say *when* he became licensed, but |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Being licensed as a foster care provider is an ongoing thing. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. You're overlooking the fact that |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Why is it okay for a 60ish father to adopt/have a baby, but not |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The "younger man" in question is not "fat". He's extremely morbidly obese. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I don't like this case because a judge substituted his judgment for the mother's. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Apparently you don't understand adoption proceedings very well |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. "For all any mother knows, the people she chooses could be drug |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. One thing's finally clear. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. We aren't talking about EVERY mother. We're talking about one mother |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. I already addressed your first point in my last post. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. pnwmom, I'm so glad you asked that |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. That's a disgustingly ugly remark. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. But the logic is the same |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Only if you persist in being utterly illogical. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Don't know that other DUer, |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. There are legitimate disagreements |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Oh, I see. |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Where did I say I considered someone "unfit"? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:17 AM Response to Original message |
56. He's morbidly obese |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
57. Could get diabetes, could have sleep apnea, could, could, could. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
59. Um, isn't there also a WIFE involved here? |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
61. The judge has to provide for the baby's future. 500 lb man has little future. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #61 |
69. By your standards, many grandparents wouldn't be able to adopt. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
66. Allow me to play devil's advocate here for a moment |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
70. The judge is an asshole. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
78. The War on The Fat Is Here! |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #78 |
94. I Have Battled Weight Problems All My Life So I Have Empathy For The Dad |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
85. I know I'm stepping into a shit pile here, but if you weigh 500 lbs., |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
86. Terrible ruling. |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
95. Let me get this straight... |
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