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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:07 AM Original message |
Eating beef 'is less green than driving' |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. Preachy people suck. - n/t |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. While i am likely to continue eating meat |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'm sure. Preachy people still suck, though. - n/t |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Why are you preaching then? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. What makes you think I'm preaching? - n/t |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. You seem pretty preachy |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. So, you agree then? - n/t |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You are the only one making an emphatic statement of opinion. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. So, you agree preachy people suck, then? - n/t |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I'll leave that up to you. |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. he did a fine job of hijacking the thread. i feel dumb for the assist |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. As long as we're in agreement. - n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Actually i'll disagree. Because you never defined the term Preachy |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I didn't define it, but everyone else seemed to know what it meant immediately. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I can't define preachiness, but it know it when i see it? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Lots of things seem like a cop out. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Ah - you must have a very high opinion of yourself. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Actually, yes, I'm one of my favorite people. Most can't say that. |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. The same could be said of most pro and anti impeachment posts |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. You mistakenly think I'm making a call for action. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. so Al Gore sucks? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. When did I call Al Gore, Martin Luther King Jr. or Rosa Parks preachy? - n/t |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. you said "preachy people suck" |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Why does my opinion suddenly need qualifiers? |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. so then you are saying that Gore, King Jr., and Parks do indeed suck? |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. No, you're trying to speak for me, and you're wrong. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. I am not trying to speak for you at all |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
100. Now you're lying about what you did. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
183. LOL! That's so funny! |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
14. Every right that a human being enjoys in this modern world |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
15. So saith the press officer for the Vegetarian Society ... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. while you are correct that fuels are burned for vegetables |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. The article IS self-serving. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. I can hardly fault the vegetarian society (or whatever) for promoting this |
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lostinacause (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #25 |
62. Why beef? The answer is that cows produce methane. Methane, as |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
75. What part of the study being done by Japanese scientists didn't you get? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
85. i get the study just fine. i dont buy that eating beef is worse than driving. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Some folks don't "buy" that the world is round. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. argumentum ad absurdum. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. This type of study |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Strawman. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. .. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. some people like to bend scientific studies for their purposes. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. That's just ignorant. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. well in my world of science things are weighted. how often something is done, in what quantities |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
76. It always pays to look at the source article. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Eating meat uses more corn and other grains and grasses |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #22 |
90. So the more corn, grain, and grasses it uses... |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #90 |
161. Not necessarily correct |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:21 PM Original message |
Beef can be raised entirely on grass - on sloping land not suitable for raising corn. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
132. Yep, too bad this info isn't out there |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
137. Very little beef is raised this way. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #137 |
188. In the U.S. and Europe, no - rest of the world - yes. And if one makes any |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. And there are more and more pastured dairies as well in the U.S. |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
158. It is a bit too cut and dried |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #158 |
174. Cut and dried... |
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Help me help Earth (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
16. This will be my tip for green living for my eBay auction |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. So this is an advocacy |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
24. so eating 2.2 lbs of beef is worth 3 hours in a car. |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. Thank you! Who the hell eats 2.2 lbs of beef in a short period of time? If they do they |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. exactly, this sort of research ignores what people are more likely to do. |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
73. You've never seen me at a Korean BBQ restaurant |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
26. Being on the computer is less green than being off the computer. |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #26 |
58. Exactly. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
28. Do you have children? |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #28 |
48. That is the bigger issue. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
116. The thing is, if you have kids, you live for them. |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. I'm not looking backwards. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Well if mass death is the solution, there are quicker ways than birth control. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #116 |
170. the OP said that "all but a few should willingly commit suicide in order to save the world"??? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
31. I eat beef and drive a full size Bronco.... |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
143. Hey, none of us are perfect |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
33. Wow there is a lot of defensiveness in this thread |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. my defensiveness is due to the fact that the title to this research is grossly misleading |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
117. How about this study? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
141. We are surprisingly powerful |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
34. there is a "middle way" |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Yes. Pasture fed beef. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Good info, that's what I try to buy and I buy it from a local farmer. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. yes-- |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Bingo |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
167. Not completely so |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
35. Can we give the cows some beano? |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
169. Funny, but scientists are actually working on just that |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. Well then, I'm ahead of my time. |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
44. Stop eating beef! |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Nope |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
84. Thank you for your contribution |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. yeah, that's real funny ... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. I'm sure when all that happens... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
105. Millenial fears like that have been around for more than a millenium |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #105 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #111 |
159. The fact that you are unable to articulate your point without name-calling says it all |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #111 |
197. You are a nasty little thing aren't you? |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
120. Good for you. Sell a carbon offset for it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
160. You have to love the banner ad I saw when I viewed dbaker41's reply |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
46. Plus, its really hard to find a parking place for a cow at the mall. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
50. Who eats 2 lbs. of beef in three hours? |
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yewberry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. No one is making that suggestion. 2.2 lbs=1 kg |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
79. I'm aware of the metric system-- I don't see why the conversion to |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
51. From my observations, far more people spend 3 hours a day in a car than |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I spend 30 minutes a day in the car |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. 2.2 pounds is more than even the most decadent steakhouses serve at once |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. That's what I was thinking |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
171. It's cause 2.2 lbs = 1 kg n/t |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
57. Ha! I guess I should've expected these responses |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. All of us make choices in life on how we impact the earth |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Yes. I agree. As long as your eyes are wide open. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I agree |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
165. I plan to do solar panels, but I've made one choice far greener than most peoples' |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
164. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #57 |
193. ty |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
63. Who cares about global warming / fresh water / sustainability, liberal nonsense |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. So how does the world look from all the way up there? |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Reverting to right-wing tactics |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. It is pretty sad, cause I'm not even one of the fire brands |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
168. Criticizing a person's behavior is not attacking the messenger |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
114. "Why should I care about the planet when meat tastes good?" |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #114 |
151. Well the fossil records show what will happen when the permafrost melts |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #151 |
194. I, for one, welcome our new feline overlords. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
68. Wow! People hate to have their meat questioned! |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Indeed, looks like it touched a nerve!! |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. yep, it's a "sacred cow;" pun intended. nt |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Ouch!! |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
124. People hate to have their diets dictated to them |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #68 |
191. people hate interference in very personal decisions. i dont like it when people tell me who to fuck |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
70. What I've never understood about these studies... |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. do you honestly not see the difference between what America looked like 100 years ago and today? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Of course the environment is different. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
98. It's not the animals themselves. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. I agree about eating pasture fed beef. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. The article... |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
107. unless they were counting methane as more harmful than CO2 extracted |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. How about this one then? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Yeah, that's also non-scientific. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. How about posting some facts of your own |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Well, like I've already said... |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Again, facts would be nice |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. No. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. Research it. You're the one who made the intitial claim that it has no effect |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. The three biggest contributors to global warming... |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #139 |
145. "Because I says so" is not a source. It's idiocy |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #145 |
149. I agree. It's idiocy. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #145 |
177. With SOME posters it is. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #122 |
127. What is misleading about the UN study? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #118 |
129. well without seeing how they did their calculations |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. Did I say it was a call to veganism? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. What makes you think it's not sustainable? |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #134 |
142. I have provided studies. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #142 |
146. You've provided one study. |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. Obviously you didn't read the study or even the article about it too closely. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. I read it closely enough... |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #133 |
153. "with the population continually rising" |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #98 |
126. Every cow I eat is one less beast farting out pollution! |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
155. I got a question |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #155 |
162. Light a match. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #162 |
166. I know a guy who did that once with his Rottie |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #162 |
173. Just kidding hehehe. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #162 |
187. Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
74. Dividing a solution neatly into two problems |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
78. Animal Source Foods to Improve Micronutrient Nutrition in Developing Countries |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. true, although I think the only thing developing in America is our stubbornness n/t |
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baby_mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
99. "Preachy", "Self-righteous", "Do-gooder"... |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
101. Less than 10% of the american diet is animal protein |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! |
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WhollyHeretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. Gee, making up facts is fun!!! |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #109 |
163. all of beef production is rolled into the "agriculture" category on this |
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NobleCynic (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #163 |
172. But if you recognize beef produtcion as a problem |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Driving without A/C, are you crazy? |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Not driving w/o A/C |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. Not possible with my job |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #135 |
144. You mean nobody 50 years ago worked outside all day? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #112 |
154. I run an evaporative cooler at home, |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Use of fossil fuels is a factor, of course, but |
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CRF450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #108 |
140. Agreed, and the sad thing is |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #108 |
192. seconded. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #101 |
115. And auto emissions by themselves count for 1/3 of all greenhouse gases |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #101 |
152. I wonder if it's the oil industry that's pimping this stuff. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #152 |
185. Gotta be. n/t |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #101 |
178. Where does that figure come from? |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #178 |
190. World Health Org (WHO) |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
106. Having babies is less green than both. |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #106 |
195. oh no :o it's the unspeakable |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-01-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #195 |
196. Lone wolves aren't afraid of ostracism, lol. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
113. Ban meat eating, like smoking - because both affect other people |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
125. I eat 16 oz steaks while driving my SUV for three hours to the mall!!1!! |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. ...with the air conditioning on full blast and the windows down. |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
147. Old news....most food is not very green... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
156. I'm going out for a burger |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
157. If I drive for three hours do I need to buy a steak offset? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
176. I don't own a car, and I have no children. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #176 |
181. you can say that again. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
179. The study doesn't count for different methods of raising cattle. |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
180. So it's okay to drive way across town to the farmers market for veggies? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
182. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. ROFL!!! |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
186. I'm doing as much as I can. I'm not giving up beef. |
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