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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:51 PM Original message |
People are sometimes jailed for Holocaust denial. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. Extraditing heads of state is a little touchier . . . |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. In germany it is not simply an academic dispute. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. I think is more common than not in Europe. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. David Irving, I believe. But I also believe it's |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I don't know why, but I feel pretty sure about Scandanavia, too. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It seems that 14 countries have laws against holocaust denial |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Aha, there you have it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Yeah, but read the whole article, particularly |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. That is true |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. since when is it illegal to |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. LOLOL!! |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. whats your point? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Executed? Really? Where? |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. im not backing them up |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. no it's not and even a cursory bit of research would |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. i wasnt talking specifics,just in general |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. no it's not illegal to research the holocaust in germany |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. How do you feel about that personally? |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I just think this something that is often left out of the discussion. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Excellent dodge. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. I'm glad someone appreciates it. |
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CT_Progressive (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. People are sometimes jailed for ramming their face into a police officers fist, too. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
6. And that is wrong... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. here's the take from wiki |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
27. My litmus test is quite simple, if I have the right to call them idiots, they have the right... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. actually, its not |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. I could understand it within a few decades of WWII, but such laws need to be expire sometime... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. It's not just about the holocaust. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. You are making a distinction without a difference here. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. No. It's not a distinction without a difference |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. So what's the difference? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. the difference I would guess |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. You would be wrong. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Oh no I wouldn't be wrong. |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. true but its right around the corner |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. not here it's not right around the corner n/t |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Why not? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. And they should be confronted, not legally penalized, for their beliefs... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I agree with you. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It would be struck down as unconstitutional.... |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. wasnt a women jailed |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. got a citation for that? |
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AZ Criminal JD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. It is called the First Amendment |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Oh, I don't know. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Like shooting fish in a barrel; catching your misrepresentations and lies |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Hmm. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. he=zundel. Prosecuted for INCITEMENT |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You said yourself... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. Context counts. And in the context of Germany, and German history. it's reasonable. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. If you read the OP and the links, a guy was extradicted from CANADA! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. My only interest in this thread was Germany's Holocaust denial laws... |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Actually, it looks like he was just deported back to Germany.. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. It takes all kinds - heh! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. A lot and it's pretty fascinating too |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Despite having lived there for 40 years, he was not a citizen |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Yep. |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. I find it quite frightening, actually. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
29. No they're not. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. sooooooo.. Holocaust denial denial... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No you don't. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
63. You surely mean in the USA, yes? -nt |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
54. Holocaust Denial is Despicable |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. I agree with your take on it, and that gets closer to the real point. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. what are the real questions being asked by holocaust deniers |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Well, since you ask it like that, I'll have to agree. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-25-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. well said. It is also done not just to cause pain |
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