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ruggerson
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:27 AM Original message |
It Isn't A "Lifestyle" And We Don't Want "Tolerance" |
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good point. Thanks for the perspective. |
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eowyn_of_rohan
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
72. Is it OK to say "ditto"? N/T |
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King Coal
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
99. How about if we just put up with you then? Will that suit you? |
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bluerum
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Mon Oct-01-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #99 |
138. Well - if you can put up with me - you are a saint. |
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LakeSamish706
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I never understood how they could arrive at that saying/conclusion... |
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noamnety
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. k&r |
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mrreowwr_kittty
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. On so many levels |
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JeffR
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. rec #5 |
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Lerkfish
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
5. good point. |
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DesertRat
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well said. k&r |
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HCE SuiGeneris
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. An easy K & R. |
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Bluzmann57
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. From what I can tell |
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Jade Fox
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
9. I've never understood why.... |
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Smarmie Doofus
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. 'Cause it means you're supposed to be happy as long as... |
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petronius
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Me neither - ever since I learned in undergrad engineering that "tolerance" is a measure of |
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druidity33
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Mon Oct-01-07 06:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
88. what about "sustainable"? |
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cali
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. Enthusiastic k&r |
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Katherine Brengle
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
12. Amen. |
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JitterbugPerfume
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. Thanks for the enlightment |
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EFerrari
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R |
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Solly Mack
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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glowing
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. Personally, I don't give a shit who someone loves or what they do |
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ScottytheRadical
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Mon Oct-01-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
86. Sex is something beautiful; you shouldn't be offended by it. |
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cgrindley
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Mon Oct-01-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Some of it is actually pretty disgusting and/or stupid |
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iaviate1
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Mon Oct-01-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #91 |
137. Why do you feel the need to cast judgment? |
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cgrindley
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Mon Oct-01-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #137 |
141. It was a reply to the message claiming that sex was beautiful |
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iaviate1
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Tue Oct-02-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I think it's beautiful that consenting adults can do many things behind closed doors. |
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Deja Q
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Mon Oct-01-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #91 |
139. Or dangerous. n/t |
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iaviate1
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Tue Oct-02-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #139 |
147. The danger drives people. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
143. I didn't say it wasn't.. but I also don't have sex on main street... I love |
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #18 |
121. You don't have to talk about sex. but no one has to live by your code. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #121 |
144. Most people do not have sex all over the place... Though I've had |
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JitterbugPerfume
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
19. oh boy! I cant wait till |
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NMMNG
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. K&R |
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uppityperson
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. of course, k&r |
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defendandprotect
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. Lifestyle is a rather old-fashioned notion + surprised it's still kicking around . . .. |
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
23. I've always found the word "tolerance" to be condescending. |
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libnnc
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. I've always wondered how straight folks would feel |
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baldguy
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Sun Sep-30-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
25. We should tolerate the fundamentalist Christian lifestyle. |
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bperci108
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'm using that frame next time some Xtian starts in.... |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Oct-01-07 07:26 AM Response to Reply #25 |
90. I guess I'm not as tolerate as you are towards fundamentalist Christian lifestyles |
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baldguy
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Mon Oct-01-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #90 |
114. Fundamentalist Christians want special rights. |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #114 |
133. Well if they are not normal then they should locked up in a mental institution. |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
122. Well, considering religion is chosen and orientation isn't, you have a point. |
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LeftishBrit
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
27. k & r |
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Hepburn
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Yep.... |
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abq e streeter
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
29. tolerance |
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mulsh
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Sun Sep-30-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
30. tolerance is a weasle word, acceptance is much better. |
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comtec
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Mon Oct-01-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #30 |
85. I have to Tolerate teh KKK, I don't have to accept them. |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
123. You think it's wrong to demand full equality? |
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comtec
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
127. I think it's foolish to expect acceptance |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. That's not what you said. You said we shouldn't expect EQUALITY. |
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hlthe2b
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Sun Sep-30-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
31. Context may apply.. |
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NashVegas
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Sun Sep-30-07 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
32. Who Are These Well-Meaning Progressives You Speak Of? |
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Smarmie Doofus
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. "Tolerance": this thread: posts 3, 22, 29, 31. |
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ruggerson
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Here ya go |
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Redstone
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Ouch. I hope that many DUers follow your links and wince like I did. |
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NashVegas
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Context Is Key, Isn't It? |
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ruggerson
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I told you |
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NashVegas
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
118. Believe It Or Not |
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yardwork
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #57 |
100. I think that you might be missing the point. |
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NashVegas
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. I Believe I Understand What You're Saying |
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yardwork
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #116 |
134. I think that you've now come full circle back to the OP's point. |
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Sun Sep-30-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
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otherlander
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. Well, that's Zandor. |
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tekisui
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R---This will be the great understanding of this generation. |
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. Deleted sub-thread |
yardwork
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. Giving this a great big PRIDE kick and recommend! |
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robinlynne
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Sun Sep-30-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. ok. |
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tishaLA
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Sun Sep-30-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
39. "Toleration is not the opposite of intolerance... |
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Smarmie Doofus
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #39 |
81. Best thing I read this month. Or last. nt |
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baby_mouse
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
40. K&R |
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ismnotwasm
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
41. K&R |
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Redstone
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
42. Absolutely. |
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BlooInBloo
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
44. Wonder where the DU "I tolerate gays" mascot is today? |
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. Maybe a website should be started |
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yardwork
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #45 |
101. "These people?" The most "we'll" get? |
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iaviate1
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Sun Sep-30-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
46. How about "sexual preference" |
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ruggerson
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Sun Sep-30-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Makes me cringe too |
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TommyO
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
66. My sexual orientation is gay |
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Sun Sep-30-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. Independent of the issue of whether homosexuality is a choice or not, |
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TommyO
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #73 |
96. You're right, choice or not it doesn't make a difference |
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iaviate1
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Mon Oct-01-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
136. Great point. |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #46 |
125. Yep - it's just as false as, oh, saying Nigerians have a "dark skin preference". |
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omega minimo
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Sun Sep-30-07 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. go look at how women are being treated in the Women's Rights & Issues forum |
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
119. Likely after you (general you) stop alienating most of the women on the forum |
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Mon Oct-01-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #119 |
142. the (general) personal attack helps how? |
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Sun Sep-30-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
49. Mutatis mutandis for ATHEISTS. The OUT Campaign - Atheist Pride Movement |
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. "Mutatis mutandis"? |
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Mon Oct-01-07 01:20 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. I do not believe in revealed religion |
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Mon Oct-01-07 04:25 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. As it should be |
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
129. Quibble: we're NOT choosing not to believe. We just don't believe. |
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Prophet 451
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Tue Oct-02-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #129 |
145. Mea culpa |
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ProudDad
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. Right ON!!!! |
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Pacifist Patriot
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Sun Sep-30-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
50. Amen! |
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Sun Sep-30-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
51. The lifestyle thing makes me want to scream |
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Sun Sep-30-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
52. Excellent point. n/t |
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Sun Sep-30-07 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
54. "Lifestyle" is definitely a weasel word, but you're never gonna get universal "acceptance" |
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ruggerson
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Acceptance under the law |
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Sun Sep-30-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
55. Ive always hated the word lifestyle. |
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
56. I agree. "Tolerance" can imply it's something to be "tolerated". |
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Ellen Forradalom
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
58. "Lifestyle" simply makes no sense |
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Sun Sep-30-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
59. Lifestyle does sound pretentious, doesn't it? |
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Prophet 451
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
63. What is the "gay lifestyle"? |
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
64. "It's a choice." |
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ProudDad
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. K&R |
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
68. Fuck "tolerance" |
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
69. Demanding "full acceptance"? |
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otherlander
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Sun Sep-30-07 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
70. I think they use the word "lifestyle" |
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
74. defining terms |
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
75. A big K&R |
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:26 AM Response to Original message |
76. y'know, it's funny you say this... |
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
77. I don't agree on the word "tolerance"... |
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AuntPatsy
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
78. Common sense, a rarity. |
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DarkTirade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
80. K effing R. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 03:34 AM Response to Original message |
82. thank you! . . . tolerance implies that there's something wrong with us . . . |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #82 |
104. I agree |
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Mon Oct-01-07 05:07 AM Response to Original message |
84. indeed. n/t |
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The Count
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Mon Oct-01-07 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
87. Hear, hear! |
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Marrah_G
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Mon Oct-01-07 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
89. I wish more people would understand this |
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Mon Oct-01-07 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
92. Homosexuality: It's Life. Not a "Lifestyle". |
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Mon Oct-01-07 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
93. Absolutely! |
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JNelson6563
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Mon Oct-01-07 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
94. Excellent points. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
95. Yeah, like a gay guy wrote in a letter to the editor I read once, about the |
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
97. Exactly. nt |
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Mon Oct-01-07 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
98. I agree 100% with equality |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
102. Would you prefer intolerance? |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
103. Personally |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
105. Gee, that's great. Lash out at your friends for PC words and don't |
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Mon Oct-01-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #105 |
140. I don't know where you get your 2% figure |
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Rosa Luxemburg
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
106. Bush thinks homosexuality is a choice!!!! |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
107. Broccoli, chocolate covered grasshoppers, and sex |
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IndianaJones
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
108. who the hell is well meaning? nt. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
109. "Gays and lesbians don't want to be "tolerated." We demand full equality and acceptance, period." |
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Mon Oct-01-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
110. Jews embrace the concept of tolerance |
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Xithras
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Mon Oct-01-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
111. Then you will die unhappy. |
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IndianaJones
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Mon Oct-01-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. tolerance is an insult. nt. |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Mon Oct-01-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. this isnt about personal acceptance, its political acceptance |
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Xithras
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Mon Oct-01-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. That division is artificial. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
113. And I was just getting used to using "the anti-choice lifestyle" and "the Catholic lifestyle." |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
120. Let me just add, people are EXPECTED to support our full equal rights here. |
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IndianaJones
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. thats a dream. nt. |
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Zhade
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #124 |
131. Dream or not, if you don't support us YOU ARE NOT WELCOME per the admin of this site. |
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IndianaJones
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. that can be said of lots of things. yet it happens with regularity. nt. |
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
126. I agree completely with the OP |
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Mon Oct-01-07 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
128. Good Point |
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Mon Oct-01-07 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
135. I think you're misinterpreting the word. |
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