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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:35 AM Original message |
A DU recipe for irrelevance |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. For all my bitching |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So do I. I view it as a privilege. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. And a duty! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Well, bitching is an essential part of participation |
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Emit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I bitch about more than just Democrats |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. Work hard to elect Democrats |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yes, anyone who supports Gore, Feingold or Kucinich is just a tool of the system with blinders on |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Did I miss a "sarcasm" emoticon? |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I figured it was unnecessary |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Thanks. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. dupe |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Then why bother? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Because I have only one country |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. The system!! Love it or love it!! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes! Refusing to participate in the system is the way to change it! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yes, and refusing to improve the system is the way to respect participation. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. My argument can't be so scary that people are already making up fantasy interpretations of it |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Only in your dreams |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. If you refuse to participate in the system, you can't expect the system to value your views |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. I am NOT responsible for the (predicted) votes of others. I'm responsible for my own. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. You see your delicate sensibilities as more important than a woman's right to choose? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Again, you proclaim "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists!" |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? My questions can't be that terrifying. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. You're sounding ineducable. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I'm asking you to consider the practical effect of those "morals," and you don't have an answer |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Nonsense. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Ah, what beautiful projection |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. When you don't vote your values, you'll NEVER see those values prevail. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Bush and Cheney are in tune with -your- philsophy: "Never compromise, and damn the practical effect" |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
57. That's delusional. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Absolute moralism without regard for its effects is sociopathic. You share that trait with Bush |
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dajoki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. I can't help but throw my two cents in... |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
4. I thought the rule is: |
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fizzgig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. that's how i see it |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
7. Apathy sucks ass. |
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Traps (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. On the money |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Holding asshole pols to a high standard is key, but the worst asshole always needs to lose |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. and of course, if those who disagree with the *candidate of the month* |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You'll have to direct me to the part of my argument that says criticism should be outlawed |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. There's a candidate of the month? |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. I've voted in every election... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. didja see Will Pitt's thread? |
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Fierce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. That's the whole third-party mentality. |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. Amen, |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. Spot on, my brother n/t |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. The votes of the left are available. If the candidates don't want them, so be it. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. But then the practical effect of the Leftist vote is to enable the GOP |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Then it's kind of self-defeating not to pursue the votes of the left. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. If the stakes weren't so high, I would agree with you. But we can't have another GOP president |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. We disagree. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I'm sorry. A GOP president would have an extremely negative impact on millions of people |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I'm not trying to convince you to. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. Bingo! |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
45. This Place Is Sure Gonna Be Lonely A Year From Now |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Say it, say it, say it again ....... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. If the game is rigged, my conscience tells me that to play along is to |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. And if the outcome of that game imapcts millions of lives? Your conscience is mum on that? |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. You are entitled to your beliefs, |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Fair enough, but most of politics is choosing the better of two bad options |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. I have no problem with choosing when the decisino is based on my free will |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Give me a break! |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yep. |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. here you are, have a break on me. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. When you say it is a charade... |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. all of the above...plus the complete ineptitude of our "opposition" party. DLC=cancer on America |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Man, I love that picture of the WH with Sauron's Eye on top of it!! |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
56. Perhaps irreverance is the word you are looking for. |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
59. I ALWAYS Vote |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
61. I always vote. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
63. Are you assuming DU HAS relevance to non-DUers? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. heh. exactly. n/t |
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sufrommich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. It has none. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-01-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. Good point. n/t |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-30-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
66. Hear hear |
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