Lou Dobbs & Co...Suggesting with Heavy Breathing that CA Fires started by Arsonists

[KoKo]

(in other words it's not just environmental).

So...How did the fires start? If CA is normally prone to fires this time of year with Santa Ana Winds where even dropping a cigarette out of a car could spark a huge fires (drought San Diego area has suffered under) and that's the cause...(innocent) ...OR...as Dobbs reporter is saying...some are malicious with showing evidence of some cans and bottles with an FBI Spokesperson saying "We will get to the bottom of this!"

which is the TRUTH...and what to Californian's think is the truth?

Is there suspicion that it's all or part arson...or is it totally or in part environmental?

:shrug:

[Warpy]

1. The truth is that most homeowner's policies exempt

damage from terrorist acts, which is why the industry will be all hot and bothered to prove bin Laden did it.

Never mind that one of the more destructive fires was already attributed to a snapped power line.

[KoKo]

5. Oh FGS! that would explain it.. That's why the "Bush Troops" are out with ARSON....

Does it never end...I guess it doesn't. :-(

[TahitiNut]

11. "Arson" does not necessarily mean "terrorist act."

Indeed, most policies DO cover arson, as long as it's not the policy-holder. I have no doubt, however, that the insurance companies might try to push the "civil insurrection and act of war" exceptions.

[KoKo]

13. What "Warpy" is pointing out though is that WHO decides if Arson or Terrorist Arson?

That's whats so important about what this poster is saying. Lou Dobbs had his "FBI Spokesperson" out there saying "We will get to the bottom of this" ....so why should your insurance company give you a check (money out of their profits) until they know if the "arson" was done by "Terrorist" or ordinary arsonist. And, in "Bush World" given their loyalty to the Corporations...you could bet that there are "some" insurance companies who've put that "fine print" into policies that their policy holders might not even be aware of.

For instance...I live near a site that's on the "EPA Super Fund Site" list. It's a small area that's never been cleaned up here in NC...but my neighborhood is on a golf course and is considered prime...but that dump is maybe half a mile away. Instead of cleaning it up ...NC has used it to dump all kinds of waste from hurricane/ice storm and who knows what else...and it sits there fermenting whatever. If that think catches on fire or explodes and starts a toxic fire...and my house burns down...does State Farm (my insurance company) get to wait until someone decides that a terrorist knew the site was Toxic Waste Dump and the FBI needs to investigate it for years to see whose accountable before State Farm sends me a check? Would I be living in a FEMA trailor or with relatives until it's decided HOW that fire started? Since Bushies Homeland Security has rewritten all the rules ...they could declare that since the fire is of "unknown origin but might be related to terrorism...they have to put a "hold" on any insurance payments.

Bottom line is ...we all need to check our insurance policies and maybe call our agents to find out EXACTLY WHAT we are covered for and not covered for in the Chertoff/Bush/Cheney years. We might be in for a surprise or not. It's best to know. :shrug:

[glowing]

2. Both.... great timing for some to re-populate and modernize the

homes in a region.

[w8liftinglady]

3. isn't that what Randi Rhodes said today,too?started at the blackwater site

[Basileus Basileon]

4. I don't see why you're drawing a difference between arson and "environmental" causes.

The question regarding "environmental" causes is, "Is global warming in part to blame for the conditions that allowed the fire to spread so quickly?"

The question regarding arson is, "Was this fire started by a human?"

I don't see why the answer to one impacts the answer to the other.

[KoKo]

6. You are saying it's "half and half?" n/t

[Basileus Basileon]

7. Well, they're different questions.

One is "how did it start?" and one is "how did it spread?"

The answer to one has nothing to do with the answer to the other.

[KoKo]

9. It does for folks who have to deal with their Insurance Companies!

According to "Warpy's" post above...if FBI investigates and thinks there's a whiff of arsonists...a homeowner might have to wait until investigation is completed to collect their insurance check to rebuild. And what do they do while they wait for their insurance money? Live in a motel...with relatives...on the street? :shrug: You bet it matters what Bush & Co. decide about "what caused thse fires." :-(

[devilgrrl]

8. Lou Dobbs' definition of "arsonist": Brown people from south of the border.

eom

[NorthernSpy]

10. unfortunately for Dobbs, most of those caught so far have been white...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2126881&mesg_id=2132667

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2126881&mesg_id=2132724

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2126881&mesg_id=2132793

http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ae499c1e-1f81-4bbf-9f16-2e1689e0c157

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Reaching for tinfoil hat

what if one of those was started by ... perish the thought, Blackwater?

Would Lou report that?

[KoKo]

14. true...and there is that town where Blackwater wanted to build another

Rambo Park where "shoot 'em ups" would be another "Training Facility," that would eventually get more of our tax dollars...

[Zookeeper]

15. I have a feeling that Lou would be thrilled to report that...

a fire was started by Blackwater. He doesn't appear to be a big fan of BushCo and the war profiteers.

However, I don't watch him very often, so I could be wrong.