Why? Why do they WANT to torture?

[Bake]

What is it with the Pukes that they get all excited about using torture? Have they no souls? They know it doesn't work. They know America has no moral authority to complain if one of our GI's is captured and tortured. They know how America would react to one of our soldiers being tortured by a captor. So why in the name of all or anything that is holy do they get all foaming-at-the-mouth about torture?? They claim not to know if waterboarding is torture. They'd know damn well it was if it were used on one of ours!

Can anyone explain to me WHY they want to torture?

Bake

[TwilightGardener]

1. Because we're the kick-ass U-S of A. If WE do it, it's holy and Christian and just.

Them ragheads are gonna suffer until they tell us everything they know.

[ShortnFiery]

2. Because in a Totalitarian Society, "the truth" is whatever the ruling political class dictates.

:scared:

[derby378]

3. Read 1984 again and you'll get your answer

"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" - O'Brien to Winston Smith

[More Than A Feeling]

4. Sure. It gets them the fig leaf of false confessions to try to justify

continuing the war on the Constitution. Also, they like power and have no respect for the rule of law, and they like to demonstrate that whenever possible. If enough people start believing that the law is whatever authoritarians say it is, they are free to do whatever they want.

[NNN0LHI]

5. I am no doctor but my guess would be they are very sick people

The ones I know personally all appear deranged in some way or another. Every last one of them.

Don

[leftofthedial]

6. it is a weapon of mass terror and control

not a useful interrogation tool.

they use it to scare their opponents into cooperation. "If you cross us, we'll torture you."

[EFerrari]

11. Opponents at home and abroad, at that. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

7. Have to have proof that something terrible is going to happen to us

[Richard D]

8. They're sadists.

[Virginia Dare]

9. They have no souls..

they have no morals, no ethics, no respect for human life, (unless of course it's an unborn Christian life). I truly think bush is a sadistic bully who gets off on killing and torture, this is their "leader". Disgusting, sad and pathetic that this is what our country has become.

[KansDem]

10. A couple of days ago, NPR referred to waterboarding as "controlled drowning."

:wtf: Controlled drowning? --I thought "just how can 'controlled drowning' not be considered 'torture?'"

drown (droun)
v. drowned, drown·ing, drowns
v.tr.
1. To kill by submerging and suffocating in water or another liquid.
2. To drench thoroughly or cover with or as if with a liquid.
3. To deaden one's awareness of; blot out: people who drowned their troubles in drink.
4. To muffle or mask (a sound) by a louder sound: screams that were drowned out by the passing train.
v.intr. To die by suffocating in water or another liquid.

I wondered about possible like-terms as:
Controlled hanging
Controlled beheading
Controlled shot-to-the-head
Controlled electrocution
Controlled strangulation
etc.


We are indeed controlled by evil...

[Crunchy Frog]

12. I think there's just some very dark human impulses involved.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with rational behavior or public policy, it just appeals to something very base and primitive in human nature. I think there should be some serious psychological and sociological studies of this phenomenon.

[blondeatlast]

14. Yes--the fact that we in the US are even debating this proves your point.

I converted someone the other day when she was wondering about it thusly:

"How would you feel if they did it to your kid?"

[burythehatchet]

13. Because when your souls has a big hole in it you try to fill it

with either love or hate.

[billyoc]

15. They don't want to torture anyone, they want you to be AFRAID of being tortured.

Just another way to stifle dissent, any idiot knows that the actual torture doesn't produce anything.

[WinkyDink]

20. These are not mutually exclusive, either in theory or in current practice.

[whistle]

16. Good question, is it about sadism? Power? Fulfillment? Justification?

...Boredom? Avoidance? Revenge? Or maybe, it is simply orders.

[ladjf]

17. It could be that many people derive pleasure from causing pain

to others.

[provis99]

18. Cowardice, of course

The same type of attitude where a conservative would kick someone who couldn't fight back, but would run away from a fair fight. Notice that the big advocates of torture are also those who did whatever they could to avoid getting drafted into the army. Just plain cowardice.

[WinkyDink]

19. Sadistic psychopaths. Firecrackers in frogs; branding classmates; killing Iraqi children.

Laughing about "finding" WMD's.

BUSH and CHENEY LOVE DEATH---for OTHERS.

[Evoman]

21. Torture is not about getting info that is true, it's about getting info that you WANT to be true.

And in many ways, for a totalitarian government that thrives on lies, misinformation and skewed reality, that's a positive effect of torture.