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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:51 PM Original message |
Defending Chavez? Defending Ahmadinejad? Are DUers insane? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. These comparisons are so over the top, I can't even respond to them. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. no fricken kidding, read something other than what Bush and his friends |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. So it IS a trick question... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Well, more forgivable doesn't mean good or great |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. "It would be great if everyone would just apply a fair standard based on complete reasoning." |
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Chicanery (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
5. You should be MUCH more worried about the crazies in power... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Yep. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. No need to defend Chavez. Championing more like it. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Could you be more specific? What in my thread seems baiting to you? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. what isn't |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The -first line- of the thread points out that DUers aren't crazy for defending either leader |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You have got to be kidding |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. I disagree there. If the goal is noble, the means should be as well |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. When the propaganda attack is not noble |
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Mr_Monday (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. What is up with this? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. The firehose of bullshit we are suffering here comes from our own government. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. To be clearer, this isn't wagging a finger at all Chavez defenders |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. It's the "not as bad" argument carried to it's logical conclusion. |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. Isn't this apples and oranges in a way? What I'd put up with as US leader isn't the same |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. That's true. Expecting Iran and Venezuela to conform to our standards isn't completely fair |
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99th_Monkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. When the "opposition voices" espouse violent overthrow of elected officials |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. That's why I'm more sympathetic to over-the-top defenders than over-the-top provocateurs |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Do you have any idea how presumptuous that statement is? |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
22. "It would be great if everyone would just apply a fair standard..... |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-01-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. And the reasonable defense for murderous bigotry towards gays is what, exactly? |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. No, you DON'T want to hear why you're wrong |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Defend Ahmadinejad's policy towards gays. I'm ready to listen. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Wrong target. He has no power to set that policy, let alone change it. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Press freedoms in Venezuela. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. It relates to hypocrisy I think. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
27. I've come to the conclusion that there's only one reasonable |
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SyntaxError (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
28. I don't think Chavez compares to Ahmadinejad.. |
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eppur_se_muova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-02-07 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
29. "I deplore what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it." |
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