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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:30 PM
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Sorry, but I am UNABLE to not link this:
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 05:33 PM by Gabi Hayes
http://mediamatters.org/items/200406140006

Rush Limbaugh guest Tim Russert: "Should I nominate you" to be the next Meet the Press moderator?


After more than five weeks of comments by radio host Rush Limbaugh condoning and trivializing the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. military guards at Abu Ghraib prison, Tim Russert -- managing editor and moderator of NBC's Meet the Press -- said it was "an honor" to be a guest on Limbaugh's June 10 show. Following a discussion of Russert's new book, Big Russ & Me: Father and Son -- Lessons of Life, Limbaugh asked whom Russert would choose to succeed him as moderator of Meet the Press. Russert replied, "Should I nominate you?" Limbaugh concluded the interview by saying, "I always enjoy talking to you, and I appreciate our relationship over the years."

From the June 10 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: e don't often have guests on this program, but we made an exception, here, for our friend, Tim Russert of NBC News and we -- Tim? How are you, first off. Nice to have you with us. It's a real pleasure.

RUSSERT: It's an honor to be here, Rush. Thank you very much.

>>>>>more at link, if you can stomach it
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:33 PM
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1. bi-partisan to the core
willing to talk to ALL sides

was a Spin-guy for the Dems before getting into Journalism

YOU don't see it but PEOPLE have HUMAN relationships with all kinds.

bye
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:38 PM
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3. I think DU is really sad in that regard.
The devisive nature of this place with regards to the human race and trying to focus on common goals is mind-boggling.

There was a thread the other day about how the person "doesn't care" if Pat Robertson cares about global warming. It was harshly criticizing the commercials with Sharpton.

I am exactly the opposite, some things are MUCH bigger than our differences. We should celebrate the things on which we can agree.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:38 PM
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4. didn't you have a thread earlier in which you excoriated anyone who
thought Russert was an unbiased journalist?

it was the first thread I saw when I got online today, but it's not here anymore

apologies if it wasn't you, but I can't find the thread at all (dumped?), under anyone's name

it was pretty nasty, what with truth vs. appropriate mourning times and all

I could have sworn it was your thread.....

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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:40 PM
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6. not me
mine was a thread that resulted on me putting about 20 people on ignore (thankfully) and stating so.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:01 PM
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11. you're right. I misread it, which makes it even weirder, as it shows
how disengaged from reality you are
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:43 PM
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7. just curious...are you out of your mind? or what? editing this:
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 05:54 PM by Gabi Hayes
I read your thread 180 backwards

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=3445858

sorry

that said, if you think palling around with the likes of Limbaugh reflects well on his judgment or his journalistic ethos, well, I find it more than surprising.

did you ever see his TV interview with Limbaugh. an hour of softballs and kissyface

remember...pals with Limbaugh, the man the 'revolutionary' congress of 1994, the one that IMPEACHED Clinton chose to address their incoming contingent

a man is known by the company he keeps, and Limbaugh was one of the VERY MOST influential media figures (to our nation's great loss) over the last 15 years

sorry for misreading your thread
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:46 PM
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9. you aren't worthy of my company
no, I'm not out of my mind, you don't bring anything to the community.

Therefore....

Bye
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:00 PM
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10. I edited my response, because I misread your thread
and please don't hurt me like that.

I can't stand the thought of you spending your precious time away from the lounge, devoting your angst to someone as unworthy as myself

while you're away from the lounge, why don't you try something you're not used to, like catching up on your reading:


http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-megalomania.htm



then ask if anybody else in the world cares who you say buhbye too

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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:24 PM
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12. hah...just saw this
since when is this thing considered human?





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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:35 PM
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14. well...i would never consider a poorly 'shopped' image
of the proprietor of the Bunny Ranch superimposed with Limbaugh's face human, so I am not sure of your question's point?

sP
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:39 PM
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15. gee, you caught me!
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 06:40 PM by Gabi Hayes
good work!

think I wanted to spend more than a few seconds looking at that disgusting creature's nauseating visage? it's almost dinner time

what's YOUR point?

big fan of Limbaugh's are ya?
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:45 PM
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17. not in the least...
but Tim Russert was a decent human being and he treated most people he came across well despite their political views. And for you to go around attempting character assasination (which Limbaugh is quite good at by the way and I assume that is where you got YOUR lessons about personal associations and how to tear people down with them) with an interview of this nature is ... well ... let's just say it let's me know quite a bit more about you.

sP
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:59 PM
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22. get real....decent human beings don't sell their souls to the devil for a few million
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 07:05 PM by Gabi Hayes
extra bucks and prostitute themselves to a criminal administration in the furtherance/justification of an illegal war, or did you miss the Libby trial.

and doesn't one have to have character for it to be assassinated

you just keep right on living in your little world of illusion, if it makes you happy


cheers

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:08 PM
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25. you know nothing of the man...
but given your desire to make people equal to their associations...I guess the whole world pretty much sucks...sorry for you.

sP
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:18 PM
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29. telll me all you know about what a wonderful man he was
be specific

cite your sources
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:22 PM
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30. i knew him personally...worked with him on a project
but that doesn't matter to you...you just want to tear him down...and assasinate the man that he was...and go read http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25148584/ to see what people who mattered thought of him...i was just an acquaintance...and to be fair to you, i am just some guy on the internet that you don't know from Adam's housecat so why would you believe me?

sP
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:41 PM
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36. what he was is not important today. he's dead and his family and
friends mourn. that is today's task. the rest is for later. let him get into the ground and then have at it. I don't care.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:39 PM
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16. Dying doesn't make you a saint-- and "bipartisan" is not the same as accurate or fair.
Russert was a horribly biased host, and his show was/is representative of all the corporate media "news" problems. It limited the debate to what corporate America considered acceptable, from corporate Democrats to fascist Republicans.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:37 PM
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2. He was respectful even to those who did not deserve respect.
Maybe that's not such a bad thing.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:32 PM
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13. fair, but irrelevant point
the point is what he SAID, and that he and Limbaugh were pals, apparently. what the hell was he doing on his show in the first place? oh, duh, he was pushing that book.

he didn't have to bring up even the possibility of Limbaugh succeeding him, but the fact that it even occurred is fodder for the analyst's couch, IMO
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:39 PM
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5. I like to remember Tim's performance during the Clinton-Lazio debate
http://australianpolitics.com/news/2000/00-09-13.shtml

RUSSERT:

To both the candidates, Mrs. Clinton first. The issue of trust and character has been raised repeatedly in this campaign. Mrs. Clinton, I want to start with you. In January of '98 you went on ``The Today Show'' and talked about what had occurred at the White House. I want to play that for you and our viewers and our voters and give you a chance to respond.

TAPE: Male voice (Matt Lauer): So these charges came as big a shock to you as anyone.

CLINTON:

And to my husband. I mean, you know, he woke me up Wednesday morning and said You're not going to believe this.

LAUER: So when people say there is a lot of smoke here, your message is where there's smoke -

CLINTON:

There isn't any fire.

LAUER: If an American president had an adulterous liaison in the White House and lied to cover it up, should the American people ask for his resignation?

CLINTON:

Well they should certainly be concerned about it.

LAUER: Should they ask for his resignation?

CLINTON:

Well, I think if all that were proven true, I think that would be a very serious offense. That is not going to be proven true.

RUSSERT:

Regrettably, it was proven true. Do you regret misleading the American people? And, secondly, in that same interview you said that those who were criticizing the president were part of a vast right-wing conspiracy. Amongst those eventually criticizing the president were Joe Lieberman. Would you now apologize for branding people as part of a vast right-wing conspiracy?

CLINTON:

Well you know Tim, that was a very, a very painful time for me, for my family and for our country. It is something that I regret deeply that anyone had to go through. And I wish that we all could look at it from the perspective of history but we can't yet. We're going to have to wait until those books are written. But from my perspective, you know, I'm very hopeful that we can go forward in a united way. That certainly is what I've tried to do. And I've tried to be as forthcoming as I could given the circumstances that I faced. Obviously I didn't mislead anyone. I didn't know the truth. And there's a great deal of pain associated with that and my husband has certainly acknowledged that and made it clear that he did mislead the country as well as his family. But you mentioned trust and, you know, I'm standing here running for the Senate. I didn't cast the votes that Newt Gingrich asked me to cast. I've been a steady, consistent voice on behalf of children and families and what I've worked for for 30 years. And I want to try to put that experience to work for the people of New York.

RUSSERT:

In trying to unite people, however, is it appropriate to brand anyone who criticized the president as part of a vast right-wing conspiracy?

CLINTON:

Well, I certainly didn't mean to extend that to anyone who might criticize the president, especially after the truth came out. You know I have the greatest respect for Senator Lieberman. I've known him for 30 years. He and I share a lot of the same concerns about media violence, for example. There've been a lot of books written about this whole matter and people are free to believe whatever they choose. But I think there is strong opposition in the country to the vision that I share with many about what we'd like to do for our nation. You know, we just have a very different set of ideas about everything from the economy and education to, you know, strengthening families and providing health care. And that's what I think we should be focusing on are those kinds of issue differences.

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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 05:43 PM
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8. Very telling. They were brothers in the Military-Industrial-Media Complex.
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 06:00 PM by laststeamtrain
I grieve for the millions of dead that resulted from their PR work.

PS: Please don't call me names.

PPS: No, I won't shut up even if you keep calling me names.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:51 PM
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21. if you're going to be a disrespectful asshole, expect to get called on it.
grave dancing idiots make me want to vomit, and i will call out each and every last fucking one of you.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:23 PM
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31. Is name calling the same as 'calling someone on it'?
Russert deserves no respect. He was a shill. You obviously don't agree.

Here's my name for you: 'member of a mob.' Crazed, irrational, running wild, dangerous manifestation of group psychopathology.

And, might I add, perhaps unable to understand the point I'm making at the moment.

I have a different point of view than you & you want to shout me down. Is that fair? Is that right? Of course not.

I'm like an anti-war protester & you're like a member of a mob of hard-hats who want to beat me up.

What's wrong with you?

I chose to think that there are not that many DUers like you.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:27 PM
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32. boo hoo. perceive all you like.
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 07:31 PM by Elrond Hubbard
there are plenty of asshole who hide behind free speech. that's their right.
on edit: you may have despised russert, you may have liked him...doesn't change the fact that he was a man with a family, and they, at the very least, deserve to be respected.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 08:01 PM
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34. I don't understand you.
Who's hiding? Family? So what? Your argument is absurd. I think you just like to be angry. There's a whole bunch of you on the board this evening.

Listen, show all the respect you want, I'm not telling you not to.

I don't have to though. No matter how many names you call me I don't have to respect someone I don't.

You authoritarian types just never want give up do you? You actually think you can bully people into thinking just like you. 'Cause you're right, always. It's obvious you're right. The name calling proves it.

BTW, name calling is against DU rules. Are you ignorant of that fact? Add it to the list.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:45 PM
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18. Unable not to? Did the link hold a gun to your head?
Call Ripley cause that's a first!
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:47 PM
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19. in a world without guns we would have been spared this thread n/t
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:08 PM
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24. reality is tough to deal with isn't it? too bad....I know you're having a
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 07:08 PM by Gabi Hayes
hard time breathing that air


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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:16 PM
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27. no...i just lament people like you
who just 'cannot control themselves' you and your ilk are a sad lot.

sP
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 08:09 PM
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35. Proof positive of the shift in dynamics that has transpired
on DU and should lay suspicions to rest of where they lean politically. Not surprising at all.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 06:50 PM
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20. Oh wow, he GOT ALONG WITH LIMBAUGH??
What an awful, awful man!
You make me sick.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:05 PM
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23. good job missing the point
you can infer all you want

I merely posted a link, without comment

can't handle it, on your weak little tum tum?

relax

find someone who doesn't make you sick; spend some time with that person, instead of making yourself ill....doesn't sound very healthy to me

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:10 PM
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26. oh, i got the point.
and i know what your intention was by posting the link.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:16 PM
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28. Who cares?
He went on Rush's show and did publicity for his book.


And he also made a joke. Obviously nobody would ever allow RL to be the host of Meet the Press.

But, let's paint the man to be as evil as can be just hours upon his death.


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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 07:39 PM
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33. Look
One of my favorite journalists ever was Jack Anderson - both a hero and a villain - but a newsman through and through. When I was young, I would watch Jack and think: "This is the kind of reporter I would want to be. Fearless, clever and the bane of anyone he decided to investigate." Anderson had his flaws and bad associations but I cried the day he died.

I'm not comparing Mr. Russert to Jack Anderson, except for their shared profession. What I am trying to express is regret. Regret at the slow extinction of the kind of journalist who can take a subject (political discourse) that the public, generally, doesn't give two shits about and make it interesting.

Russert had his faults but I think he tried to do his job as best he knew how. The larger audience a journalist has, the more they can inform the people. You have no idea how hard it is to walk a fair line in the effort to obtain such an audience, most especially today. Jack Anderson was on Nixon's hit list - literally. Reporters are murdered all over the world for doing their jobs. Russert was no Jack Anderson but Tim's life was cut short. We don't know the paths he would have forged had he lived longer.

Too soon, dude. Too soon.
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