From now until the end of August, love your candidate or work against him.

[babylonsister]

That's it, the way this works, I'm seeing. Does the GE start after the convention? Fool me many times when I didn't pay attention.
So, can 75,000 people show up for Obama in Denver? Will you, should I? I have an invite to the inauguration, so I'm asking...

Can McCain get 10,000, during the first game of the NFL?

Stay tuned.

:evilgrin:

[midnight]

1. It is a bit hard to know what to say to your post. Of course

I want a Democratic President. Of course I will vote for Obama. But the Joy/Love of drawing a line to Obama's name this November is shrouded in sadness. I have family that have been invited to one of the inaugural balls, and that is an honor, but it would be more of an honor to select a democratic president that would stand up for the constitution-especially when legislation is wrong.

The FISA Amendments Act:

Gives the president broad new powers to spy on innocent Americans’ phone calls and emails – even when they have no connection to terrorism. It legalizes mass, untargeted and unwarranted spying on our international phone calls and emails. This is just wrong.http://www.aclu.org/safefree/spying/35872res20080701.html

[babylonsister]

3. Read this: the man wants to get elected, and I want him to also...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x370163

[gateley]

14. Let's see how he votes. He might vote 'no' after all the

feedback he's received.

I've no doubt he'll vote against immunity, but am holding out hope he'll see the light on the bill itself.

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[babylonsister]

5. Whoo hoo, you live in Denver, so you can pick a candidate? How

old are you, and what are your issues, or don't you have any? Why not vote for your concerns? Isn't that the point? Do you want this war to continue?

Have you researched Obama to determine 'he's just another politician lacking core values and integrity.'

Or did you cut and paste that, like I did yours? :eyes:

Prove it to me, then we'll talk.

[feistydem]

7. I always vote my concerns. I have researched and met Obama.

and I am old enough to know that I don't need to prove shit to you.

[babylonsister]

15. So you aren't here to voice your concerns, but to pass you opinion. I KNEW it!

And I'm old enough to call you out. And how was your meeting with Obama? He must have disappointed you. :eyes:

[feistydem]

20. you sure are confrontational. I think you're the one who is disappointed

and masking it in your hostility towards anyone who dares to criticize Obama. My opinions are related to my concerns. Meeting him didn't disappoint me. He's a very nice man. His values just don't jive with mine and I am sorry that my choices for President are a warmonger or a centrist patsy.

[babylonsister]

23. No, I am an Obama supporter. As much as you tear him down, I

will build him up. Keep on keeping on with your pro/anti stuff, Obama has been my candidate for a long time. There is no hostility in my view. He is simply the best candidate now, bar none.
Disagree with me and tell me why or don't. This is how I've felt for a long time.

[feistydem]

26. You have a right to that opinion. I disagree, of course, but that's politics.

I am not going to try to convince you that you are wrongheaded. His values must speak to you and clearly your position is intractable.

Best of luck to you and your candidate.

Over & out.

[babylonsister]

27. I just hope you don't vote. Period. nt

[feistydem]

29. I'm sure you do.

[babylonsister]

30. Tell me why you're on a Dem forum? How did you feel when you

signed up here? Are you confused?

[PM7nj]

6. Think long and hard about that.

You are in a swing state. It could very well come down to Colorado. You may feel that Obama is too centrist for you but remember that McCain is 100x worse. Please vote for Obama. Our country can't survive another Republican administration. You may feel like your have lost some integrity, but know that this election affects all of us. You may be fine under another Republican president but many people will not be.

Please. Think about it.

[feistydem]

10. I hear what you're saying and with most of it I agree.

I could have voted for Obama a few months ago. I would have held my nose and done it but now I am having a hard time supporting someone who has sold us up the river. Don't worry... Obama supporters abound here, many of them Centrists and Conservatives (that should have been a clue to us Dems). He'll win Colorado with or without my vote.

[scheming daemons]

8. Enjoy hearing "President McCain" when Obama loses Colorado by your one vote....

It could happen. ;-)

[feistydem]

12. Give me a break. It won't be my one vote that loses an Obama

election. It will be Obama who loses an Obama election.

[PM7nj]

17. It could happen.

Obama only won Guam by like 5 votes.

[feistydem]

16. sorry if I mistook sarchasm for a snarky response. It's late.

I really do wish he were authentic and I could wrap my support around him. Even better, I wish Democrats had nominated someone who thought the Constitution was worth defending and Bush was worthy of impeachment. Wish wish wish.

[gateley]

19. I understand what you're saying --

but I'm afraid to take a chance in November. Regardless of our personal views or disappointments, I sincerely fear what our future would be if McCain wins (or the vote is so close he can steal) the election. And if I didn't vote for Obama and McCain did get the nod, I don't know if I could be proud of myself for my action.

Just a plea -- hoping there's a chance you might change your mind. If not, peace.

[feistydem]

21. I appreciate what you're saying. I want to be able to live with my

decision too. I'll be watching Obama's vote tomorrow and his words and deeds going into the election. I truly doubt that I am the only one who feels this torn. As I said, Obama may have cost himself this election by taking his base and progressives for granted.

Peace back at ya.

[Blue_In_AK]

9. May I suggest that you do as I'm going to do...

Suck it up and vote for Obama, but work like hell to elect a progressive Congress. That's where all my time and money is going this season.

[feistydem]

13. I am working right now to elect progressives in Colorado.

and they are people I believe in and trust will make wise and informed decisions.

[Blue_In_AK]

31. They sound like the candidate I'm volunteering for.

It's so much more satisfying to volunteer and support a candidate who you can get to know.

[Justitia]

18. Another "writing in a non-candidate" anti-Obama poster, accomplishing nothing.

Looking like an idiot.

[feistydem]

22. I am not an "anti-Obama" poster. I am a critical thinker who has as

much right to my ideals and beliefs as you do yours. If that is your definition of an idiot, so be it.

[Justitia]

24. Threats of "writing in" non-candidates is explicitly against the rules.

And yes, it looks idiotic to throw a tantrum and void your vote by doing so.

I want a say in who my president is, I'm not going to simply piss in the wind, but I'm a pragmatic type of person.

[feistydem]

28. Gosh. I didn't realize I'd made any threats or broke any rules.

A different view from the majority should not be unwelcome on a discussion site for Democrats. I haven't been back to DU for a while and you have helped to remind me why. I don't baaaaa in unison. Ooops. Broke the rules again I bet.

[Justitia]

33. Yup, threats of "writing in" non-candidates is against the rules here so the rest of us don't suffer

silly, meaningless, empty, bullshit threats from disruptors looking to damage our prospects in November.

Maybe this isn't the site for you after all? I come here to get away from the negative avalanche of crap about the Democratic nominee, as do most Democrats who support this site.

You should acquaint yourself with the rules of this website, agree to respect them or choose not to participate in a place that disagrees with your "values". I don't troll Freeper sites for that very reason.

[EFerrari]

4. Instead of fussing over Obama right or left, I think I'm going to gear up

to help people check their registrations because that's one major way the Thugs will come after us. The timing will be tricky. If we check the registrations too early, they can be dumped later. Too late and it's too late to register for November. This will be a massive game of chicken.

[babylonsister]

32. Great idea, and everyone should consider that. nt

[Oak2004]

11. What about option #3?

Support Obama. Work for Obama. Vote for Obama. And hold his feet to the fire when he's wrong.

We could insist on lock-step conformity. But that ain't democracy. It's not even reality: if a candidate disappoints potential supporters, he or she will face an outcry and lose some supporters no matter what you or I or anyone else wants. Insisting on "you're with us or against us" at best will increase the number of people who, upon examining such "options", choose "against us".

Though more than likely, such a declaration will do nothing, since public opinion isn't manufactured by you or I or any other single individual. Bush has been laying down that ultimatum to the world since the day he was selected, and the world, on average, continues to choose "none of the above" (i.e., to follow their own national interests, whatever they may be, rather than to follow blindly every diktat of the Decider).

At the very least, Obama is going to realize out of the FISA dispute (the only entirely real one out of all the ones the media has attempted to manufacture recently) that no leader has unconditional support. And that is a very good lesson to learn.

[Breeze54]

25. I don't "love" the Dem candidate but i 'hate' the repub......

always.