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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:29 AM Original message |
Why are most (if not all) American Terrorists RIGHT WINGERS? |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. They are terrified of change. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. Outside ot the Weathermen, not many. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. True - OK we have one instance |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #4 |
40. The Unabomber was a left wing extremiest |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. He was a serial killer though |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Planting bombs for political reason to have his "maifesto" published |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Why do you say his terrorism was left wing? |
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Raspberry (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. I thought he had |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. I also saw those rumors on the web |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
67. I Guess You Could Describe Him as a Leftist, |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #40 |
78. Kaczynski was hardly a leftist. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
96. Deleted message |
fuggbush21 (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. Just one? |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. Ayers and the Weathermen killed never killed anyone |
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fuggbush21 (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. The only reason they haven't had any confirmed kills |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
100. It's the same with the ELF, they have attacked property not people! |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. animal rights activists |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The ELF are vandals, not terrorists |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Bullshit. They are terrorists in every sense of the word. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. OK - if they are "terrorists" how exactly are the inflicting "terror"? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. That's a pretty weak argument. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Yes, we are terrorists aren't we |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. You cannot redefine the word "terrorism" simply because you don't like the associations. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. What makes you think I'm ok with the bombings and vandalism of ALF and WU |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. You're arguing about degrees of terrorism. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. nobody said they are the same things |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Ah. So my definition of terrorism is semantics, but yours is valid |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. no, my definition is in common use |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. No, your definition is not the common one, believe it or not |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. sorry, i'll take the dictionary, the FBI, and federal prosecutors over wikipedia lol |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
101. Then when are they arresting Bush and company for these crimes! |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #59 |
97. According to the Dictionary: Yes, that's exactly correct. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. So that makes me a terrorist, I suppose |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
63. Nope. Never said that or even implied that. |
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Antirepubmachine (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
83. So which of there reasons did you commit your crimes for? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
81. They are terrorists and they do inflict terror |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I wouldn't call it stupidity. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I'll concede that point. "Ignorance" would have been a better word. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Precisely. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. I think the GOP-controlled media would agree with you. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Are dictionaries published by the GOP-controlled media? Just curious. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. I don't know what it means that you don't see it, but I do. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
50. Threatening a person and his family is terrorism and that is the intent |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. those are not mutually exclusive. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. "left wingers destroy property and try to spare human lives" Truly civilized terrorists, |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Again, if there is no terror - they can't be terrorists |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. The defiinition of terrorism is pretty simple: |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. No, it is not that simple |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. I don't understand your point at all. The owner of an SUV dealership is a civilian. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Ok, you are right |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. But by that same logic, freeway blogging is terrorism |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Terrorism is such a loaded word |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. They don't yet, but how do you think those other groups got started? |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
75. The word "terror" implies the use of psychological harm and intimidation. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
28. So by that definition, graffitti is terrorism |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Maybe, but sometimes it is. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Let's just say I spray paint "Bush is the enemy of the world" on a wall |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Why is that terrorism? |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
92. How so? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. But by the above logic - wouldn't blowing up an SUV be an act of violence |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. blowing shit up does seem to contain the seeds of violence |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. if I warn you I'mm gonna blow up your house, and DO IT when you leave, will YOU feel terrorized? or |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. extremis ad absurdum |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Yeah, they are civilized |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. If I looked outside my bedroom window and saw a cross burning on my lawn... |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Fair enough |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
69. Correct. Left wing terrorism is generally directed at property or institutions. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
11. Depends on who is percieved as being in control |
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imdjh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
15. It all depends on what you consider right wing, doesn't it? |
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Raspberry (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. Well, |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. oh, the Right Wing sure does seem to have a monopoly on terrorism |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
26. you make a really good point... the bias in American media is obvious |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
27. I disagree |
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OmahaBlueDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
31. Tree spiking is terrorism |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. OK now that qualifies |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Tree spiking was never meant to be terrorism |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
36. I think crazy basstids come from both sides of the fence. I would have to see some |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Don't get me wrong, the SLA were terrorists |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Well, yeah. They wanted Patty Heart's rich daddy to give money and food to the poor. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Problem is the RW Asshole section has a lot more seats |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Well, I dunno about that. They've been in the news more, lately. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
43. I don't think the rw extremists are different than the lw ones |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. No, they are quite different |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. This paper disagrees somewhat: |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. Threats and actioan against scientists are supposedly so called progressives |
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LBJDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
51. The anarchists were rightwing? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. My actual answer is I am not sure where Anarchists stand on the spectrum |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
61. FTR, I love that we can have intelligent discussions on these issues here |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
68. Left wing terrorists are pretty rare. |
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Raspberry (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Were Stalin and Pol Pot terrorists? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. You're talking about state terrorism vs individual and nut group terrorism |
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che man (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. so if communists are RW; is Cuba run by a RW dictator? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. RW in the authoritarian sense |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
71. Right wing has lots of guns, and lots of mouthpieces on AM Radio. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Left wing terrorism isn't about murdering people |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 01:17 AM Response to Reply #85 |
91. "Get me away from here" |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
88. the Islamic Terrorists are Conservative also |
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Danger Mouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
89. What about anarchists like Leon Csolgosz? |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
93. Lack of motivation on the left |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
95. kick |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
98. The SLA was mainly criminals and some ideologues who were |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
103. Funny you bring that up. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-20-09 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
104. Don't forget the weathermen for the lefties |
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