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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:31 PM Original message |
Police K-9 bites four-year-old during house raid |
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PM Martin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
1. How would Sotomayor rule on this one? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. She'd tell the police department to open their checkbook |
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47of74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Goddamn right |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
31. I don't think so |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. Man she sounds like a real winner |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. Poor kid. Damn pit bulls should all be shot! |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. What does this story remind me of? |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. I can't wait hear what excuse they'll come up with for |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. what compliant adults |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Wrong. The story says the adults DID comply, but the 4 yr old didn't |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Damn that 4 year old! |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
68. not sure legally a 4yo can comply, or can NOT comply - lol |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. from reading the article, it's not entirely clear |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. "Three other adults in the house complied with orders and were not hurt." |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. sorry, that's still unclear |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. I agree. It was sloppy reporting. update below in post 22 |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
103. Oh for god's sake! |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
47. damn those fucking adults for not taking care of the 4 year old n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I am wondering how the early hour may have contributed. |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #17 |
91. Yes how dare he be sleeping |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
119. no one is condemning the 4 year old for sleeping n/t |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
127. Thank you. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. uggh. Just hope it doesn't happen to you or someone you love one day |
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jmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. I'm not going to kneejerk either. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. if the adults were COMPLIANT |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Edited to point out updated story below, in post 22 |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
96. Good for you. The adults didn't say the right thing so the hell with the kid. The cops are off the |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
48. and the officer knew there was a child in the house how, precisely? n/t |
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lostnfound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #48 |
84. Isn't it always a possibility? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
120. a reasonable person would not expect a 4 year old child, or any young child |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. A "reasonable person" might not expect a child to be in a dark alley |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
25. Here is my problem with police |
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norepubsin08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:38 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Fucking asshole cops |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
34. It is distinctly possible that at 7.30am a four year old |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. At 7:30 in the morning they were probably sleeping |
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okieinpain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
44. from what I've read, I have to agree with you. n/t. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
92. Ok so let us know how you feel. Was it necessary to let the dog go? |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Their excuse might be something stupid like... |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. the order of operations is pretty clear... |
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DCKit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. Sloppy, lazy, willfully ignorant and negligent. |
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Control-Z (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
63. I tend to agree with you |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
11. Don't blame the dog, either |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
33. so they train the dog to |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Every cop apologist on this thread knows that if it were one of OUR dogs |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. Think before you write |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. "The dog does what it is trained to do." |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
98. right arm stinky nm |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
104. That must mean the dog is trained to maul infants. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #58 |
108. right on, Stinky! |
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d_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. But since it's a cop dog "police officer" |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. yes. how else is the dog supposed to catch a criminal? kindly ask him to stop in the name of the law |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. so, they train the dog |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. You do realize you just... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Oops. The movie Up is already seeping into the public conscieousness |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #64 |
88. "My name is dug. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. No, I didn't. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
100. I didn't know my mom posted on DU |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Think of the dog as "equipment" instead of as a sentient being. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Well, if not a failure in training, then one in command. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. We agree, I think. The fault is other than with the dog. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I think so. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #59 |
87. That's a better explanation. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #55 |
109. you're blaming the dog?????!!!! |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. That dog does not move forward to attack |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. so, the dog is trained |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Yes. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Yes to what? |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. These are not normal dogs. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. I don't think the poster has any concept of a working dog |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 07:26 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Good point |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. Actually, it's perfectly fine for private citizens to train a German Shepherd in protection work |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. The dog is trained to do a variety of things |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Beautiful! |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
18. Aw, that poor sweet kid |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
21. Picture of the guy they were looking for Brian Snowden, and info about what he is wanted for |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-10-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
22. Update on story with more info...kid is recovering |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Could be that the adults were sleeping. The cop entered an open door |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. thank you very much for this update n/t |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Unleashed police dogs shouldn't be part of house raids. NT |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. They were looking for a MURDERER |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. the dog bit the kid on the face and neck. He'll have those scars for life. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. How were they supposed to know there was a kid? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
51. self-delete n/t |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. They were looking for a murder SUSPECT.. and what that that have to do with anything? |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Nobody answered, so they released the dog |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Yeah, it "sucks that the kid got bit" |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:49 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Police do raids every day with no dogs. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. And, they do plenty of raids with dogs that don't end in a kid getting bit |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. They may have been asleep. They may have been awake but not heard. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. 7:30 am. Maybe they were asleep? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. and if the suspect they are looking for is in one of those rooms..... |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Agreed, and I'm amazed so many have missed that point. |
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Suji to Seoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
36. Damn four year old. . .how dare the kid cry! |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. where were the adults who were responsible for the child, hmmmm? n/t |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. The minute the cops entered that house, THEY were responsible |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. I'm amazed there's so much confusion over that point. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. the parents are responsible for the child |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:08 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. 7:30 am. Adults asleep in their bedrooms, kid in his. The dog cop is responsible for |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #94 |
121. how many times and how loudly was everyone warned before the dog was sent |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. So the moral of this story is: |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. I'd suggest reading the story rather than asking me to interpret it for you |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #78 |
111. When the cops entered the scene, they became responsible for protecting |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
117. And a hearty "fucking duh" to you, sir. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Deleted message |
Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Then you, ma'am, should try reading more closely. |
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Suji to Seoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #54 |
90. I would assume being detained by the police and unable to watch out for |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
93. 7:30 am. Adults asleep in their bedrooms, kid in his. hmmmmm? nt |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
43. stupid pigs |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
60. As the young survivor of a fairly horrific dog bite attack... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. It amazes me as well ..the attitude of some of the posters here lately.. |
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mrbarber (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
66. The family wouldn't let the paramedics check the 4 year old? |
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create.peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
69. i hope a real journalist picks this up and writes a story |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. In defense of the reporter.. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
73. Poor kid suffers for his scumbag father. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
123. yup |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
95. What. The. Fuck? and WHO the fuck do you mean? nt |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
97. They should have shown the dog a picture |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-11-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
99. The question is Why did they release the dog? Did they think the dog would only attack |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
106. despicable police work should not be an excuse to hate dogs |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
107. Before clicking this thread, I KNEW the victim was black. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
118. Sleeping While Black |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
110. The boy's father put this child at risk first |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. There is no doubt that the father and the other adults in the home put the kid at risk, but |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. I am not disagreeing with ya |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. This is true. Sending in the dog may have saved the handler's life if the murderer was there, but |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Absolutely |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
112. That poor, poor baby! |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-12-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
128. Two victims... the 4 year old AND the dog. Blame the cops and the murder suspect. |
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