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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:30 PM Original message |
Why is basic health care for Americans considered a leftist issue? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. because leftist has a negative connotation and that's how the media projects the democrats |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
2. Because the party of "I got mine. Screw you" doesn't agree. n/t |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. Becasue the folks who wish to defeat it have a splendid propaganda program |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
4. Every dime that isn't squandered on war or funneled to the rich |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is why I embrace the word liberal, and state my pride for being one |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. "By your own bootstraps" has become so ingrained in |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The notion of what rights are "inalienable" or not is constantly changing |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Very true. However in my mind and the minds of many of my friends |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. And that's the issue.. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. So?? Do you think basic health care is a right? nm |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. No. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Go directly to hell. Do not stop at Go, do not collect $100. nm |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Hahaha |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. You think it is funny. I rest my case. Profits are not more important than human lives. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Sure would. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Why does the phrase snake in the grass come to mind? Contrary to conservative bullwhacky, |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That means "public option". nm |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Terrible 'justification' |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I absolutely agree with the founders. I strongly support and individuals right to pursue |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Seeing how you strongly support an individuals right to pursue happiness |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I think we basically agree. But I believe the tyranny that our founders were fighting |
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FirstAmerican (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. concur |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. When is the last time a private company hired to do the same jobs didn't |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Get the door, it's Domino's. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Pizza needs to be delivered to the bog up the street too. |
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Naturyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Agreed 100% |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
62. well, um... |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. "your own bootstraps" has always been a fiction |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Aristotle once said that those that are independent of society are beasts or gods. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. Because "leftists" care about others and take action to make it happen. nt |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. No argument that the left supports public option, my question is "doesn't the majority of America" |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
45. NOPE |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. Why is environmentalism and saving the natural beauty of the country considered a liberal issue? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. repukes only support profit, profit and more profit. It is the moderates that i question. nm |
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The empressof all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
10. Beats me I see it as a National Security and Public Health Issue |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. As well as an economic issue. nm |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Worst part is who said it |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. CorpMedia and some so-called centrist DU'ers. nm |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Duplicate |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Duplicate. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. It's on page two of the damn playbook! |
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crazy_vanilla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. because corporations are valued by some more than human lives |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Did you know that corporations... |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Ahh very libertarian of you. Of course they are run by humans, but the laws have made the human's |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
30. It just an issue - which for now is working for the dumbfucks. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Plez enlighten us. What wars were liberal wars? nm |
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VPStoltz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
82. I stand corrected. It was during the VP debate between Dole and Mondale |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
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WeCanWorkItOut (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-20-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Doctors, hospitals, and drugs are all overpriced |
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tj2001 (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
38. Because Cuba has free and universal health care |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
40. I don't consider it as 'leftist'; I consider it as a basic human right |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
42. Watch for the code, "I support public option, but......" It means they dont support a public option |
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Prophet0621 (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. So you can support it but not have questions or concerns? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. The red tape of government run programs is nothing when compared to the red tape |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
43. Because the Socialist hellhole called Sweden has it |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
46. Because of the "conditioning" by the power elite...and the "privatization" of everything by BUSH |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
47. Basic health care for Americans is NOT considered a leftist issue |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. "unwillingness to compromise" bullshit. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. BS? Really? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Get your head out of your Faux Hole. I see that facts only run off your back. Go away. nm |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. Wouldn't know |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
50. As an ex-Republican, I can tell you exactly why. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. As an ex-Republican, I can tell you exactly why. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Excellent post! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
52. Because corpmedia is right-wing trash. |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. I think it's because many lefties argue it the wrong way. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. what? |
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dustbunnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Read DU sometime. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. As an ex-Republican, I can tell you exactly why. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
71. Ah, an ex-republican, well apparently not very ex. |
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Mcygee (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Wrong |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. What planet are you from? Faux and friends? There isn't one statistic |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Provably untrue. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. He was giving us a FauxFact. nm |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. On being selfish |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. I appologize for jumping to conclusions. But you said "personal responsibility" |
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Joey Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
61. Because rightwingers don't give a damn nt |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
67. Our side sucks at framing issues correctly. People need to read more George Lakoff. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. And we refuse to lie. That really hampers us in a fight against lies. nm |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
77. The right believes that you can't have freedom without massive poverty. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. You can't have unregulated capitalism w/o massive poverty. They are close. nm |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
78. Because it involves spending taxpayer money on taxpayers, and not on multinational corporations |
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hansberrym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
83. It may have to do with how the political spectrum is viewed in the US. |
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