85,000 Iraqis killed from 2004 - 2008 (Iraqi Government Report)

[G_j]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/14/world/main5383616.shtml

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Oct. 14, 2009

85,000 Iraqis killed from 2004 - 2008
Iraqi Government Report Based on Death Certificates Issued by Health Ministry

(AP) At least 85,000 people lost their lives from 2004 to 2008 during Iraq's violent, sectarian uprising, according to the first official report by the Iraqi government on the death toll since the war began.

The report, released by the Iraqi Human Rights Ministry late Tuesday as part of a larger study on the country's human rights situation, said 85,694 people were killed from 2004-08, and 147,195 were wounded during the same period.

The Iraqi death toll has been a hotly disputed subject and critics on both sides of the political spectrum have accused the other side of manipulating the death numbers to sway public opinion.

As Iraq became increasingly violent following the 2003 U.S.-led invasion, it also became increasingly difficult to independently track such figures on a wide scale.
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The report also breaks down some specific numbers, saying 1,279 children and 2,334 women were killed. It also puts the death toll of the university professors at 263, judges at 21, lawyers 95 and journalists at 269 — some of the professions which were specifically targeted as the country descended into chaos

[wtmusic]

1. "Sectarian uprising"?

Sure glad we invaded to provide SOME control!

(This report brought to you by Blackwater, Inc.™)

[timeforpeace]

8. As opposed to the war. Sunnis and Shiites and Kurds knockin heads as always.

[tekisui]

2. rec

[Winterblues]

3. 85,000 people killed and only 3500 were women and children..

I somehow don't believe this report anymore than the one the Insurance company just put out...

[texasleo]

5. No less credible than the "million dead" b.s. that has been floating around here for years.

[wtmusic]

6. The difference between "killed" and dead

The Lancet study (that I believe you're referring to) includes deaths above the rate attributable to pre-war mortality, this only includes 1/3 of those.

The truth probably is that about half a million died because of our invasion, not because of this "sectarian uprising" nonsense.

[G_j]

10. the Lancet is entirely reputable

and at the very least, cannot be discounted

[timeforpeace]

9. Someone posted 1.5 million yesterday! False information has been posted on the intertubes!

[bullwinkle428]

4. Oh, BTW...where IS Dubya's Nobel Peace Prize?

:sarcasm:

[Mari333]

7. you know its more. nt

[arcadian]

11. Who cares?

Americans certainly don't.

[spanone]

12. and why were they attacked by america? why was that? they did what to us?

[G_j]

13. led by the AWOL resident, that CBS covered for.. nt