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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 01:56 PM Original message |
Poll question: Poll - Will Obama pull an LBJ and not run for a second term? |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. Ah...the first vote cast is "I don't know, but I'm not voting for him"... |
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BeFree
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. See the door? >>>> |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
41. Right. |
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BeFree
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Ha!! |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
55. You are such a dreamy freedom-fighting keyboard warrior! Onward! |
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BeFree
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
83. Heh |
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Go2Peace
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #41 |
64. They could have been saying they will not vote for obama and hope to vote for a democratic |
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. That's how I am reading that option. |
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Go2Peace
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. but "your not supporting democrats" if you prefer another democrat be president! ;) |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. Bullshit nt |
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closeupready
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. He was being sarcastic. |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. OOPS - thanks - I'm a little edgy today. nt |
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closeupready
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. And thick as a brick? |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #85 |
93. LOL...yea - that too. nt |
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AVID
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Tue Dec-01-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is just rubbish. I mean-wishful thinking is fun, but totally unrealistic. |
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chimpymustgo
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Not necessarily. TWO wars, high unemployment (jobs ain't coming back). All hell could break loose |
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tekisui
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Tue Dec-01-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. No way. He is going to be the Democratic Nominee in 2012. |
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JVS
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Unless a DLC "moderate" "hero" arises to "save" us from "bloated deficits" |
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anonymous171
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Tue Dec-01-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. In the name of bipartisanship he will run as a republican. nt |
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elocs
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well, if he doesn't some people might not like him. n/t |
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theoldman
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
8. 2012 is an eternity from now in political years. |
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RKP5637
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. +100, n/t |
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JohnnyLib2
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. For sure. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. Hopefully, a new Gene McCarthy will appear to challenge him. |
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chimpymustgo
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Who do you see as a viable alternative? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Perhaps Feingold. But, I think any senator/governor who comes out strongly against the war |
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chimpymustgo
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Has Feingold come out against the escalation? Have any Senators? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Don't know. But, the anti-war left is growing and will attract some politicians. |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. The anti-war left is growing... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. In 1965 it was miniscule. Ask about LBJ's 2nd term. |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Do you really not understand how vast the differences between 1968 and 2012? |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Pacifists are irrational extremists? Really? Since when? nt |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Since whenever... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. Do you deplore the looney leftists Gandhi and MLK? |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
102. You're delusion for the "glory days" if you really think today's "liberals" walk in those footseps. |
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Starry Messenger
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
101. You have Bob Dylan as your avatar. |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Indeed, I do. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. 17% of Democrats support the escalation. |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
96. And how many of those Democrats voted for Obama knowing he'd live up to his campaign promise? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I would assume that all 17% now support his policies. |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #52 |
73. They are the same. War for profit, little more, get a clue. Where is Osama? What is the mission? |
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Generic Other
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #42 |
97. Well this DU poll suggests anger against the war strategy is growing |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Sanders |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Fiengold, Sanders, possibly Kucinich, Grayson, Waters....? |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Yeah, because Pres. McCarthy was so... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. You mean President Humphrey? Who lost the votes of the left? |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Or Pres. McGovern, who had the votes of the left... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Or, president Gore who sought the votes of the right? |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
88. Or Pres. Obama... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Yep. And, he will likely lose because of it. And, the "moderates" will, as always, blame the left. |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. He'll win. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:14 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Maybe. I think the war and the economy may be big and deciding issues in 2012. |
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Freddie Stubbs
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. So that we get another Richard Nixon? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Thanks to LBJ and Humphrey. You left that out. |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. Exactly - he is giving us Palin. nt |
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leftstreet
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. Look for it to be Hillary vs Palin |
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tekisui
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Really? |
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leftstreet
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Imagine the media spectacle! |
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JVS
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Just think of the coalition that won him the primaries vs the coalition that opposed him. |
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inna
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. *Extremely* unlikely. |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. If that happens, then Nader or Ron Paul will win in a landslide. |
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leftstreet
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. First Woman President! Advertising time would be WAY valuable |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Do you really think Hillary would do that if Obama was running? nt |
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leftstreet
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. No, I don't think he'll run n/t |
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closeupready
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #57 |
84. I asked this question a couple weeks ago, based upon roundtable discussions on McLaughlin, |
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dysfunctional press
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
66. palin isn't going to be on the repug ticket in 2012. |
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leftstreet
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. In 2005 did you think Obama would be on the 2008 Dem ticket? |
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dysfunctional press
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. what does that have to do with anything? obama is competent, palin isn't. |
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monmouth
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. There should be 13 less posters on DU according to that poll...n/t |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. not necessarily. |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. The only Democratic challenger in 2012 will be some fringe dipshit. |
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JVS
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Like Evan Bayh |
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grahamhgreen
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Not if the war is a worse nightmare, & healthcare reform is an insurance give-away, and no jobs.nt |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Was Ted Kennedy a "fringe dipshit"? |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
87. We're not talking about 1980. |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. We're talking about whether a Democrat would challenge a sitting President in a primary |
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Drunken Irishman
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:07 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. It's possible. |
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JohnnyLib2
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
24. Having lived through LBJ's term, I don't think --- |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Well, I think that's the whole point of the thread. |
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JohnnyLib2
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Yup. |
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Umbral
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
25. That would depend on where there are any would-be Bobby Kennedy's out there. |
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Sebastian Doyle
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
47. Howard Dean. |
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Bertha Venation
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. What the . . . |
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JohnnyLib2
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
37. Don't know, but my sense of deja vu is very strong today. |
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Wilber_Stool
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. He'll run. |
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Blue_In_AK
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. I have no idea. |
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Bluebear
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
46. I don't know, but I cannot support in Obama in 2012. I was told that here today. |
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
75. If that is so, then I guess half of DU can't either (judging by the current poll results). |
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Mike Daniels
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. My guess is it'll depend on the economy |
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Bumblebee
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
50. Could we have a special place for stupid polls so that we all are not exposed to them? |
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old mark
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. This is total bullshit. I am amazed at the level of fucking arrogant stupidity |
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jefferson_dem
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Tue Dec-01-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It is truly amazing. |
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Arkana
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. It's a good thing this community represents maybe 5% of the voting public. |
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Thickasabrick
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Actually, the polls say 40% of dems will stay home. Which is why |
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Arkana
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Yeah, cause polls 3 years out are a fantastic indicator of how |
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Bluebear
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
79. ?? You don't consider 2010 elections important? |
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Arkana
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. I do. |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
82. I think .5% is closer to the truth. (nt) |
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graywarrior
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. I'm becoming less and less amazed. |
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dysfunctional press
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
63. whether he runs or not, he won't be selected to a second term. |
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Speck Tater
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Tue Dec-01-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
89. This poll is completely bogus |
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Better Believe It
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
92. Some Congressional Democrats are already making early moves to possibly run in 2012 |
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Tue Dec-01-09 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
100. He will seek the nomination. Whether he gets it is another issue. |
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