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madfloridian
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:20 PM Original message |
Genealogists trying to stop the planned destruction of 2010 census images. |
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lazarus
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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madfloridian
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Finding family on a census is a special moment. |
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Towlie
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
45. I hope the genealogists fail. The census was never meant for them to exploit. |
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peacetalksforall
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I can't believe what you are saying. How inhumane. The census has a 70 year lock |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
56. What is not legitimate about census data? |
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bulloney
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I second Raleigh's comment. My family is extremely grateful for the genealogy work I've done. |
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Posteritatis
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Passing a law restricting census data for 40 years would be a drastic shortening of the lock time |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Thu Mar-04-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. Thanks - so I discovered reading further on. |
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jwirr
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. My family data is on those findings and maybe you can have them |
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goclark
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. I agree, my mother is 91 and she was in the 1920 census |
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WinkyDink
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. "Exploit"? That is a bizarre choice of words. |
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madfloridian
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
3. Okay I'll bite. |
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Fire1
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Can't imagine the reasons for the unrecs but what concerns me |
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nxylas
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #7 |
42. It's to stop ACORN from turning us all into negroes, or something |
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Gormy Cuss
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. The 1890 census records were burned, but not intentionally. |
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Shell Beau
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. The last time I went to the archives building, I was informed that |
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Gormy Cuss
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Mon Mar-01-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Yeah, that's to protect privacy. |
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Shell Beau
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Mon Mar-01-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I bet. That is pretty cool. |
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kctim
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't see a need to destroy them either |
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pitohui
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
6. too bad my privacy more important than some hobbyist's family tree, sheesh |
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Fire1
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. To many people and cultures, lineage is more than a mere |
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Cronus Protagonist
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Then let them sign an option to keep their own records safe |
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KingFlorez
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. For most, it's not a hobby, it's about knowing where one came from |
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csziggy
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Plus there is really only the most basic of information in most census years. |
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madfloridian
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Wow! What an unpleasant post. |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Do you know that the Census records are not made available to the public for 72 years? |
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pipi_k
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. To check out the claims that some people were making |
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dalaigh lllama
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Mon Mar-01-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I was looking at the 1930 census recently |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. They should have box to indicate if an idiot lives in the home. |
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jwirr
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #22 |
68. Actually one of the census records I got from Indiana did record |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Mar-01-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I know. |
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Posteritatis
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. There were a few yearbook panics in my hometown a few years ago actually |
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pipi_k
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Oh geez...Obituaries! |
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csziggy
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
37. For anyone who does want to see the questions, here is a link to them |
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madfloridian
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Tue Mar-02-10 08:20 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Thanks. Appreciate the link. |
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Duchess
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I agree |
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verges
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #17 |
53. It's not just Geneology. It's History. |
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WolverineDG
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Mon Mar-01-10 07:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. There are legitimate uses for family histories |
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dalaigh lllama
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Mon Mar-01-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. The records aren't open to the public for 70 years |
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Shell Beau
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. I just don't get that. By the time your records are available, you'll |
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Gormy Cuss
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Mon Mar-01-10 10:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. Chances are good that you'll be dead before 2010 microdata is released to the public |
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Hekate
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:13 AM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Well lah-dee-dah. The US census is actually a requirement of the US Constitution... |
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Tsiyu
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
79. Fiddle dee dee |
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Spider Jerusalem
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Tue Mar-02-10 03:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
38. That's pretty silly, I would say |
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On the Road
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. I Think You May be Underestimating the Relevance |
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peacetalksforall
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Are you sure you know what you mean when you say 'public records'? |
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verges
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
52. Sheesh. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. WTF? Family secrets? |
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dragonlady
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. The 1921 fire that destroyed the 1890 census was accidental |
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KingFlorez
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Mon Mar-01-10 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. They should be retained |
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LiberalFighter
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Mon Mar-01-10 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why are they going to save the images on microfilm? |
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Posteritatis
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. PDFs won't be readable in seventy years; microfilm will |
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jmowreader
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #23 |
47. This is another reason I really dislike digital cameras |
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verges
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. A high-end digital camera |
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Posteritatis
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. You still have the problem of keeping the "negatives" around long-term |
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verges
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I agree. |
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WinkyDink
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Yeah, a $20,000 Hasselblad D-SLR might be as good as a $700 Nikon SLR. |
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jmowreader
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Tue Mar-02-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
78. YOUR standard photography, maybe... |
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Hekate
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Electronic data is not only not stable, it is often not reliably transferable to new computers.... |
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
54. Digital media deteriorates! |
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WinkyDink
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #54 |
76. Not to mention the extinction of letter-writing. And now Tweets are surpassing even e-mails. |
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RaleighNCDUer
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #14 |
58. There is nothing permanent about computer images. |
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Shell Beau
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Mon Mar-01-10 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
25. I have had to use to records for my job at times, and they |
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Hekate
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
32. I think this country has gone mad. My mom wrote 5 genealogy books of the family lines... |
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JCMach1
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Tue Mar-02-10 02:20 AM Response to Original message |
34. In the age of .pdf, why do this??? |
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Posteritatis
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
63. Because PDFs are terrible for archival purposes. (nt) |
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bos1
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. If the data is archived anyway, does it matter if the forms themselves are tossed? nt |
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madfloridian
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Tue Mar-02-10 08:25 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Yes. |
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bos1
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. The data will not be available to the public after the waiting period? nt |
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madfloridian
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Tue Mar-02-10 11:21 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The "data" is just numbers. |
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bos1
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Tue Mar-02-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. Really? The data being archived does not include names? |
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rasputin1952
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Tue Mar-02-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
40. Census records are kept sealed for 72 years... |
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Demeter
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:35 AM Response to Original message |
41. Considering What this Census Process Costs |
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peacetalksforall
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Tue Mar-02-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
49. I started family history using census records - the research was the greatest |
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flyarm
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. if they destroy it who in the future can question redistricting and the fraud of our elections? |
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Hekate
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Tue Mar-02-10 03:19 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. That thought went through my mind as well. I am disgusted at the madness of our worship of... |
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progressoid
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Tue Mar-02-10 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
60. Michelle Bachman doesn't want anyone tracing her ancestors... |
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jwirr
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Tue Mar-02-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
65. This is insane. They have no reason to do this what so ever. |
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WinkyDink
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Tue Mar-02-10 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
72. Penny wise, pound foolish. Destroy history; it's what Fascists like to do. |
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JustAnotherGen
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Tue Mar-02-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. Oh that's sickening |
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